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Super Tuesday

keithvanhornkeithvanhorn 3,855 Posts
edited February 2008 in Strut Central
Predictions?gop race looks like its i don't want to jinx my girl hillary, but obama is .
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  • sabadabadasabadabada 5,966 Posts
    my prediction is that Hillary cries today, KVH cries tomorrow.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    I don't think Mccain is a lock.
  • keithvanhornkeithvanhorn 3,855 Posts
    my prediction is that Hillary cries today, KVH cries tomorrow.


    ha, the media is showing its gender bias. every time hillary gets choked up its a national headline.

    you really think the dems are gonna have a clear nominee by tomorrow?
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
    my prediction is that Hillary cries today, KVH cries tomorrow.


    ha, the media is showing its gender bias. every time hillary gets choked up its a national headline.

    you really think the dems are gonna have a clear nominee by tomorrow?


    I have no idea, but I do know this is the first time in almost 30 years as a registered voter that I'll be voting in a primary election.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    my prediction is that Hillary cries today, KVH cries tomorrow.


    ha, the media is showing its gender bias. every time hillary gets choked up its a national headline.

    you really think the dems are gonna have a clear nominee by tomorrow?

    No
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    my prediction is that Hillary cries today, KVH cries tomorrow.

    Hillary has already cried today! In Conneticut where she traills.

    [sarcasm] I'm shocked [/sarcasm]

    please!
  • sabadabadasabadabada 5,966 Posts
    my prediction is that Hillary cries today, KVH cries tomorrow.


    ha, the media is showing its gender bias. every time hillary gets choked up its a national headline.

    you really think the dems are gonna have a clear nominee by tomorrow?

    As goes California, so goes the nation.
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    As the crowd at the Meadowlands awaited Mr. Obama???s arrival, Mr. De Niro made a surprise appearance and received a thunderous welcome. Mr. De Niro said he???d never before made a political speech, and the actor made a special appeal to the young people and first-time voters, saying that Mr. Obama gave them someone to gather behind.

    ???You wanted to vote, you just didn???t have anyone to vote for,??? he said. ??? Well you know what? I felt the same way. Until now.???


    http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/0...at-meadowlands/
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
    As the crowd at the Meadowlands awaited Mr. Obama???s arrival, Mr. De Niro made a surprise appearance and received a thunderous welcome. Mr. De Niro said he???d never before made a political speech, and the actor made a special appeal to the young people and first-time voters, saying that Mr. Obama gave them someone to gather behind.

    ???You wanted to vote, you just didn???t have anyone to vote for,??? he said. ??? Well you know what? I felt the same way. Until now.???

    We took the kids to the Museum of Natural History yesterday and just missed an Obama rally in Central Park. The museum was full of people walking around with Obama stickers.
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    DON'T BELIEVE THE HYPE.
  • Secret_ChimpSecret_Chimp 915 Posts
    Can't we just Frickin' vote already? I swear if I have to hear these people spew out the same tired old rhetoric for the next 8 months I'm gonna kill somebody.
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    my prediction is that Hillary cries today, KVH cries tomorrow.


    ha, the media is showing its gender bias. every time hillary gets choked up its a national headline.

    you really think the dems are gonna have a clear nominee by tomorrow?

    As goes California, so goes the nation.

    Well, Georgia, Missouri, Connecticut, and NJ (kinda)...
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Obama troops were out at the church down the block from my shop, also I saw a bunch of them around the Farragut projects in Fort Greene. I think I might have narrowly missed Obama riding through to shake some hands or whatever. I was just pissed the motorcade was in my way
  • UnherdUnherd 1,880 Posts
    I don't really trust polls, but the fact that it looks like they're saying Obama is tied up, combined with the fact that I feel like a lot of his voters (young/first time voters) dont have land lines, and are underrepresented on these polls.

    With Edwards gone, I've found myself fully converted to Obama, even if I dont agree with all his policies. I'm all about a liberal with elecatability this time, no more safe democratic establishment candidates. I'm feeling good about tomorrow....
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Can't we just Frickin' vote already? I swear if I have to hear these people spew out the same tired old rhetoric for the next 8 months I'm gonna kill somebody.

    Just a thought......

    There still may be enough time for Mingering Mike to make up a candidate, make some posters and beat MCCain/Romney!
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    I don't really trust polls, but the fact that it looks like they're saying Obama is tied up, combined with the fact that I feel like a lot of his voters (young/first time voters) dont have land lines, and are underrepresented on these polls.

    Right, I think the turnout will be much greater for Obama, which is partially why I use them as a reference. Landline based polling will definitely lean towards Hillary's older aged supporters. So it shows her supporters in nearly full force. Obama leads nationally over Hillary in all but two demographics, older supporters and hispanics.
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts

    Right, I think the turnout will be much greater for Obama, which is partially why I use them as a reference. Landline based polling will definitely lean towards Hillary's older aged supporters. So it shows her supporters in nearly full force. Obama leads nationally over Hillary in all but two demographics, older supporters and hispanics.

    this may, however, be offset by the many college kids who might get stoned and forget to vote for Obama.
  • Secret_ChimpSecret_Chimp 915 Posts
    Can't we just Frickin' vote already? I swear if I have to hear these people spew out the same tired old rhetoric for the next 8 months I'm gonna kill somebody.

    Just a thought......

    There still may be enough time for Mingering Mike to make up a candidate, make some posters and beat MCCain/Romney!

    Haha, Mingering Mike for president! It'd be a lock with The Big D as a running mate. Then he could appoint Joseph War as the Secretary of Defense and Rambling Ralph as his press secretary.
  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
    The delegates are pretty much awarded proportionally on the Democratic side which means if, say one candidate gets 51 percent of the vote in a state and the other gets 49, they will both pick up about the same amount of delegates, give or take one or two. So I would guess no knockout punches will be thrown tomorrow. This race could go on for a couple more months.
  • 4YearGraduate4YearGraduate 2,945 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.

  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts

    Right, I think the turnout will be much greater for Obama, which is partially why I use them as a reference. Landline based polling will definitely lean towards Hillary's older aged supporters. So it shows her supporters in nearly full force. Obama leads nationally over Hillary in all but two demographics, older supporters and hispanics.

    this may, however, be offset by the many college kids who might get stoned and forget to vote for Obama.

    Or the premiere of some garbage MTV reality show might distract them long enough to not care...
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts

    Right, I think the turnout will be much greater for Obama, which is partially why I use them as a reference. Landline based polling will definitely lean towards Hillary's older aged supporters. So it shows her supporters in nearly full force. Obama leads nationally over Hillary in all but two demographics, older supporters and hispanics.

    this may, however, be offset by the many college kids who might get stoned and forget to vote for Obama.

    Or the premiere of some garbage MTV reality show might distract them long enough to not care...

    saying. you can bet if the iPhone were to have come out tomorrow that you would see a significant impact on youth voter turnout.
  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    CA stutters: who got the props!? where do you guys stand on these....


    Proposition 91 -- Gasoline tax

    WHAT IT WOULD DO: Would prohibit the governor and Legislature from tapping gasoline sales tax revenue meant for transportation projects and using it for non-transportation projects

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    Proposition 92 -- Community colleges

    WHAT IT WOULD DO: Would guarantee a minimum of about 10% of education funding to community colleges and set fees at $15 per unit per semester, with limits on future increases

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    Proposition 93 -- Term limits

    WHAT IT WOULD DO: Would cut the total number of years a state legislator can serve in the Senate and Assembly from 14 to 12 but allow all to be spent in one house. Nearly three dozen lawmakers who are due to be forced out by term limits next year would be allowed to run for reelection, including Assembly Speaker Fabian Nunez (D-Los Angeles) and Senate President Pro Tem Don Perata (D-Oakland).

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    Propositions 94, 95, 96, 97 -- Indian gambling

    WHAT THEY WOULD DO: Would let stand state compacts, approved by the governor and Legislature, with four Indian tribes. The deals allow the tribes to more than double the number of slot machines they operate in exchange for higher payments to the state. Affects Pechanga Band of Luiseno Indians in Temecula, Morongo Band of Mission Indians, Sycuan Band of the Kumeyaay Nation near El Cajon and Agua Caliente Band of Cahuilla Indians, which owns casinos in Palm Springs and Rancho Mirage
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.


    It's the American Dream syndrome. Many first and second generation Americans fall into that category.
  • Secret_ChimpSecret_Chimp 915 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.


    It's the American Dream syndrome. Many first and second generation Americans fall into that category.

    My guess is that religion is the big factor here.
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.


    It's the American Dream syndrome. Many first and second generation Americans fall into that category.

    Plaese to explain why the Dems don't represent the "American Dream" to these people??
  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.


    It's the American Dream syndrome. Many first and second generation Americans fall into that category.

    My guess is that religion is the big factor here.

    Bingo
  • sabadabadasabadabada 5,966 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.


    It's the American Dream syndrome. Many first and second generation Americans fall into that category.

    i think its more of a vlues vote. most latinos are pretty Catholic so they prolly dont roll with the democrats social policies.
  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.


    It's the American Dream syndrome. Many first and second generation Americans fall into that category.

    My guess is that religion is the big factor here.

    Bingo

    Indeed, beyond weak sauce; Frickin' pathetic actually. A lot of older latinos, ones that have been here and now are established, are mega-republican or apolitical. It has a lot to due with inter-minority racism and yes religion as well.
  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    And the latino community which by and large feels inexplicably compelled to vote Republican.


    It's the American Dream syndrome. Many first and second generation Americans fall into that category.

    Plaese to explain why the Dems don't represent the "American Dream" to these people??

    I didn't really explain what I meant. But seems to me that a lot of first and second generation Americans have an idea that conservative values are the only "true" american values and religion plays into that.
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