No competition. One is a nineties classic, the other is a sporadically enjoyable album that i suspect wouldn't hold up too well if i revisited it today.
No competition. One is a nineties classic, the other is a sporadically enjoyable album that i suspect wouldn't hold up too well if i revisited it today.
I recently dug the DR Octagon LP out and it has not aged well at all !
long after the bong smoke has cleared, you've had your Lallapalooza tribal band tattoos removed, and we've all had a good laugh over the infantile "project" that was Dr. Octagon....
....MF Doom's verses on Doomsday will still be very, very relevant. Dude's legacy is secure, even after questionable outings such as Dangerdoom. He's one of the nicest MCs ever, and Doomsday has the added bonus of great production.
Yeahhh! You're listening to the sounds, from the Boogie Down Bronx! Kooool Keith!! Performing with Mean Jean, Cordio the Grand Wizard The Ill Brothers, at the T-Connection
Bust them flavors, more rap styles than Life Savors Damage kids with suits with champagne and fake alligators I'm for the repercussion, my style is bumrushin MC's get back, that black brother sound wack A bust a new style, grease your hair with NuNile Do wrecks flex the Bronx fronters that step up next New jacks can't rap, stomp your feet and make your hands clap The kid is booboo, your screw up on the mic is doodoo That's word to Mom Duke, you wack you get the boot It's Casanova, Bronx Kid all over Swift to shift top MC out to shoot the gift Morisena Projects, my neighbors took your Rolex You get action, talkin loud walkin up in Jackson My little cousin Bronx crew's about to move on you
Yeahhh! Patterson Projects is in the house! Webster's in the house! The Non is in the house! Melrose is in the house! Jackson, is in the house! Yeah!
I come real deal rap style back like Holyfield Check em at the door, and watch crews with steel With the L Brothers, we hittin freaks undercovers to the left side, you on the back door I got a OJ ready, with pink whitewalls Ah yes yes y'all, and you don't stop the body rock Cockblock my friends, you count tens in your Benz Rappers know they toy, I blast your rhyme skill kid yo, step up like Elroy You know the steelo, from New York to Puerto Rico You'll tell me bro... yeah, I'm Kool Keith chief You been out two weeks Don't try to ill, cause you're plastic no frill
Yeahhh! Next week at the P-A-L!! Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five! Battling Kool Herc and the Herculoids Afrika Bambaata and the Mighty Zulu Nation, Soulsonic and Cosmic Be there! Two dollars before ten! With special guests, the Cold, Crush, Brothers!
(oh, I believe I forgot to mention I never even heard Doomsday)
DR Octagon lp when it first came out + Mushrooms = entertainment
^^^^ crackalack, not to dis you personally, but this is the problem with this thread.
Dr. Oct partisans = those whose memories of this album are generally drug-influenced b/w non-rap fans who had found an "experimental" album they could fuck with. BONUS: their girl "sorta liked it." And it follows that most of y'alll never really checked Doomsday or else gave it only a cursory listen.
seriously how many of you riding for Octagon have really listened to Doomsday more than once?
(oh, I believe I forgot to mention I never even heard Doomsday)
DR Octagon lp when it first came out + Mushrooms = entertainment
^^^^ crackalack, not to dis you personally, but this is the problem with this thread.
Dr. Oct partisans = those whose memories of this album are generally drug-influenced b/w non-rap fans who had found an "experimental" album they could fuck with. BONUS: their girl "sorta liked it." And it follows that most of y'alll never really checked Doomsday or else gave it only a cursory listen.
seriously how many of you riding for Octagon have really listened to Doomsday more than once?
Me. I know Doomsday off by heart and love most of it but i would part with it before the Dr Octagon LP. I don't know why people are fronting on the old Automator / Kool Keith / Q Bert collabo.
I've never listened to Doomsday, although I never got into the whole M.F. Doom solo MC/producer thing. I pretty much didn't check back after Black Bastards. Is Doomsday really any different from the 10 or so albums MF Doom released in the following 4-5 years? Cuz I heard some of those by default and wasn't really moved by any of them.
Oh, I did buy that Viktor Vaughn album on a whim when it came out, it was alright, I think I might have already sold it...
I won't ride for Dr. Octagon really either though, it seemed like more of a joke than anything else, but produced like it was serious. Does that make sense? It was cool when I was 16. The collaboration was exciting at the time...
I don't know why people are fronting on the old Automator / Kool Keith / Q Bert collabo.
I don't think anyone is fronting on the "collabo." The pro-Dr. Oct faction is confusing a cool idea with a tepid finished product. While the pro-Doom faction is merely recognizing what is clearly the better album of the two.
and then there's a bunch of folls in here who never heard Doomsday but remember being high and listening to "Blue Flowers" while rubbing the side of their face against a blacklit felt poster of Smurfs emblazoned with the clever phrase "I Get High with a Little Help from my Friends."
[quote seriously how many of you riding for Octagon have really listened to Doomsday more than once?
I have listened to both albums hundreds of times and still think Dr. Octagon is by far better...That being said, I am a huge KMD/MF Doom fan, but for me Dr. Octagon has way better beats (Automator mufukaz)and scratches (q-bert mufukaz)!!! And I can never get sick of Kool Keith either...Dr. Octagon = winner!!!!
(oh, I believe I forgot to mention I never even heard Doomsday)
DR Octagon lp when it first came out + Mushrooms = entertainment
^^^^ crackalack, not to dis you personally, but this is the problem with this thread.
Dr. Oct partisans = those whose memories of this album are generally drug-influenced b/w non-rap fans who had found an "experimental" album they could fuck with. BONUS: their girl "sorta liked it." And it follows that most of y'alll never really checked Doomsday or else gave it only a cursory listen.
seriously how many of you riding for Octagon have really listened to Doomsday more than once?
I have heard clips off of Doomsday, and honestly..I didnt find any I heard of it that great. Dr Octagon was funny. I cant help it dumb fucks that dont know dick about rap happen to thing it was funny too. I guess yall feel the same with Sex Styles(which is my fav Keith album). Although I did lose count after Dr. Dooom.
Comments
No competition. One is a nineties classic, the other is a sporadically enjoyable album that i suspect wouldn't hold up too well if i revisited it today.
Exactly.
I recently dug the DR Octagon LP out and it has not aged well at all !
You might actually enjoy it.
I made a mental note to check it when you posted about it awhile back, but it hasn't exactly been at the top of my list of priorities.
I did buy those Fondle 'Em 12"s when he first re-emerged about ten years ago, but let them go long ago.
same with 'girl let me touch you'
I cant seem to put this album down. And all the Fantastic 4 samples really touch my heart....
seriously this thread is the worst look ever.
long after the bong smoke has cleared, you've had your Lallapalooza tribal band tattoos removed, and we've all had a good laugh over the infantile "project" that was Dr. Octagon....
....MF Doom's verses on Doomsday will still be very, very relevant. Dude's legacy is secure, even after questionable outings such as Dangerdoom. He's one of the nicest MCs ever, and Doomsday has the added bonus of great production.
this thread is like (candy) apples and oranges.
no contest.
Yeahhh! You're listening to the sounds, from the Boogie Down Bronx!
Kooool Keith!! Performing with Mean Jean, Cordio the Grand Wizard
The Ill Brothers, at the T-Connection
Bust them flavors, more rap styles than Life Savors
Damage kids with suits with champagne and fake alligators
I'm for the repercussion, my style is bumrushin
MC's get back, that black brother sound wack
A bust a new style, grease your hair with NuNile
Do wrecks flex the Bronx fronters that step up next
New jacks can't rap, stomp your feet and make your hands clap
The kid is booboo, your screw up on the mic is doodoo
That's word to Mom Duke, you wack you get the boot
It's Casanova, Bronx Kid all over
Swift to shift top MC out to shoot the gift
Morisena Projects, my neighbors took your Rolex
You get action, talkin loud walkin up in Jackson
My little cousin Bronx crew's about to move on you
Yeahhh! Patterson Projects is in the house!
Webster's in the house! The Non is in the house!
Melrose is in the house! Jackson, is in the house!
Yeah!
I come real deal rap style back like Holyfield
Check em at the door, and watch crews with steel
With the L Brothers, we hittin freaks undercovers
to the left side, you on the back door
I got a OJ ready, with pink whitewalls
Ah yes yes y'all, and you don't stop the body rock
Cockblock my friends, you count tens in your Benz
Rappers know they toy, I blast your rhyme skill
kid yo, step up like Elroy
You know the steelo, from New York to Puerto Rico
You'll tell me bro... yeah, I'm Kool Keith chief
You been out two weeks
Don't try to ill, cause you're plastic no frill
Yeahhh! Next week at the P-A-L!!
Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five!
Battling Kool Herc and the Herculoids
Afrika Bambaata and the Mighty Zulu Nation, Soulsonic and Cosmic
Be there! Two dollars before ten!
With special guests, the Cold, Crush, Brothers!
DR Octagon lp when it first came out + Mushrooms = entertainment
^^^^ crackalack, not to dis you personally, but this is the problem with this thread.
Dr. Oct partisans = those whose memories of this album are generally drug-influenced b/w non-rap fans who had found an "experimental" album they could fuck with. BONUS: their girl "sorta liked it." And it follows that most of y'alll never really checked Doomsday or else gave it only a cursory listen.
seriously how many of you riding for Octagon have really listened to Doomsday more than once?
Me. I know Doomsday off by heart and love most of it but i would part with it before the Dr Octagon LP. I don't know why people are fronting on the old Automator / Kool Keith / Q Bert collabo.
Oh, I did buy that Viktor Vaughn album on a whim when it came out, it was alright, I think I might have already sold it...
I won't ride for Dr. Octagon really either though, it seemed like more of a joke than anything else, but produced like it was serious. Does that make sense? It was cool when I was 16. The collaboration was exciting at the time...
I don't think anyone is fronting on the "collabo." The pro-Dr. Oct faction is confusing a cool idea with a tepid finished product. While the pro-Doom faction is merely recognizing what is clearly the better album of the two.
and then there's a bunch of folls in here who never heard Doomsday but remember being high and listening to "Blue Flowers" while rubbing the side of their face against a blacklit felt poster of Smurfs emblazoned with the clever phrase "I Get High with a Little Help from my Friends."
Me. And there really isnt that much to compare except it was a re-invention/re-emergance for both MCs.
The sci-fi/comic cook themes are there as well. Both are Backpacker.
Doomsday has a DYI feel and Octagon is pretty polished.
Kool Keith > MF in terms of lyrics on the albums.
Damn, dude, where do you meet these women?
Phish concerts?
I have listened to both albums hundreds of times and still think Dr. Octagon is by far better...That being said, I am a huge KMD/MF Doom fan, but for me Dr. Octagon has way better beats (Automator mufukaz)and scratches (q-bert mufukaz)!!!
And I can never get sick of Kool Keith either...Dr. Octagon = winner!!!!
and
Is there an official Instamental version or will the Metal fingers herbals feature the dubs?
^^^^^ my point exactly.
I have heard clips off of Doomsday, and honestly..I didnt find any I heard of it that great. Dr Octagon was funny. I cant help it dumb fucks that dont know dick about rap happen to thing it was funny too. I guess yall feel the same with Sex Styles(which is my fav Keith album). Although I did lose count after Dr. Dooom.
Rootless, you gonna let this shit stand?
Dudes. Doomsday