Rawkus vs. El-P, round 148
orips
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El-P (Company Flow) and Puffy?El-P's response to said photo.What's the reason for Rawkus to post this photo with that headline? 
orips
238 Posts
El-P (Company Flow) and Puffy?El-P's response to said photo.What's the reason for Rawkus to post this photo with that headline?
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dude is confusing the hell at of me with his reply. if dude really has no ill feelings towards puffy then he would have let that shit slide. but dude obviously feels that his fan base will think it detracts from his artistic merits.
and seriously...he "rushed home to put this pic on his myspace page"? is dude 15 yrs old?
He also suffers from an exaggerated sense of self-importance.
"Puffy and El-P in the same room!!??"
Somebody and nobody in the same room!!??
The funniest part about that picture is Dibbs next to puffy... haha. Classic.
El-Ps new album is pretty good too, I like it a lot more than Fantastic Damage..
Peace
DJ Zest
Hey now, I don't think Puffy's soundscapes have ever been futuristic.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Rawkus dude's feeble back-peddling from an obvious attempt to clown El-P is pretty pathetic.
Picture is way better without the stupid argument below it. El-P sounds asshurt.
I wonder if Puff even remembers posing in the pic that "sent shockwaves through the indie rap world."
What ever happened to
that Atmosphere graemlinAtmosphere?damn they deleted the post..
I don't know about the rest of this mess.
Man, Dibbs is so skinny now I didn't even recognize him.
btw - I bet Rawkus is pissed from the
"Signed to Rawkus? I'd rather be mouthfucked by nazis unconscious" line in this song
I???ve never been into EL-P, apart from the Stepfather Factory tracks and a verse on a Murs album, but I decided to give this new joint a blast and well???I don???t know really???I kind of like it but I don???t know if its an emperors new clothes kind of thing and in a day or two I???m going to be wondering what the hell did I see in it.
I always liked el-p's beats and I'd like to hear this shit. I called in sick to work and would enjoy bumpin this while I chill at home.
Maybe I should hit up that "how do I search for music in blogs" thread... lol
yeah that dude is never getting a promo again is his life..
We thought the photo of you and Puff was cool. We posted it without comment. We immediately removed it upon request. But you had to go there... Straight attack our credibility and intentions with that slanderous rant. Keep in mind WE HAVEN'T SAID A WORD to you since 1998. Why are you salty? Be happy, you are successful and rich. Regardless of our obvious distaste for one another, we???ve admired Def Jux's success and sincerely respect your roster of artists. But you had to go there......
El-P, your recent post has drawn attention to our intentions as promoters and marketers in the Hip Hop community. Haters, like you, seem to suffer from historical amnesia. We thought it was time we directly addressed the Hiphop community and post some facts.
Our mission at Rawkus.com is to create a vibrant supportive community for hip hop, including all factions and styles. The post showing El-P and Puffy was in no way meant to discredit El-P as an artist or producer. Puffy is a mogul and his appearance with an underground artist like El-P was news worthy and interesting. However, we have a strict policy against creating bullshit beefs and reserve the right to delete comments and posts that overtly create hate instead of fostering creative debate. This post was removed once it was brought to our attention that El-P was offended by it.
For the past ten years our mission has been to help artists promote and make money---a mission we were very successful at. We have contributed HEAVY financial resources into promoting Black Star, Mos Def, Kweli, Pharoahe Monche, Big L and many other underground artists in our history of Soundbombing, Lyricist Lounge, and 100s of 12??? releases.
Our history is full of success and breakthroughs. Mos Def and Kweli have sold almost 1.5 million albums each and are both powerful stars now. While we worked together, Pharoahe Monche had two huge hits (???Simon Says??? and ???Oh No???) and sold almost 300,000 albums. We supported Common during his label
transition by successfully promoting ???Respiration??? and ???1999.??? Big L went GOLD! The Soundbombing and Lyricist Lounge compilations sold over 1 million copies. Remember "Body Rock???, ???Definition", "Ms. Fat Booty", "Umi Says???, ???Simon Says", "The Light???, ???Respiration", "My Life", "The Blast", "Get By", "Oh No", "Flamboyant???, ???Fortified Live", "Universal Magnetic" and "End to End Burners"?
Of course we could not hit home runs every time, and some VERY talented artists experienced frustration as Rawkus hit temporary obstacles in dealing with MCA/Universal in 2003-2004. Everybody knows how treacherous the music industry is. If you stay in it long enough, you will have your fair share of doors slammed in your face- we have! You stay in the game because your will to succeed, far out weighs your fear of defeat. We are proud of RAWKUS.COM's growing community of driven artists and individuals. While the game has changed, our mission at RAWKUS is still on point; market and promote NEW under-appreciated artists and respect the older generation of hip hop. We firmly believe the community should decide the value of music, not critics or haters.
Jarret Myer & Brian Brater
RAWKUS
Co-Founders
to what?
where is the El-P response to the pic?
Umm, in the very first post.
BEEF IS WORTHLESS
i just got off the phone with the owner and co founder of rawkus records. he assured me that they meant no dissrespect and that he had the news posting taken down from his site the second he learned about it. i appreciated the call.
so fuck it. i have no beef. im just trying to do my thing as i assume they are. fact is, just cause i had a less than positive experience with them doesnt mean everyone else will. i cant and wont apologize for how i see the way shit went down, but thats between me and them and i have no time or intention of bringing that old shit any further in to the public eye.
so good luck, rawkus. may the future bring you joy and success. this culture and this business is hard enough without motherfuckers beefing. do you.
easy,
el-p
edit:
i just saw the rawkus press release on "el-ps attack". ok. after i just got off the phone with jarret meyer and was assured they had no intention of continuing a negative campaign. motherfuckers. ok. silly me. silly fucking me for once again going with my word as told to jarret and doing my part to smooth out anything negative. awesome. at every single turn you people shit on the face of honor. haters like me. poor you. yeah, i "had to go there".
im a "hater". i have "historical amnesia". oh wait.. im "rich". ok fellas. i guess it looked to0 good on paper for you to resist. i tell you what. im gonna go to my rehearsal now. you guys are great. and important. good luck with being so great.
sayin. whatever happened to the good ol' days when i person would just beat/stab/shoot you if they had beef. now they take it to their myspace blogs?
thumbs down.
"We all rushed home to clap back on our MySpace blogs!"