I'll meet you behind the library at 3:00 - be there.
While that's supposed to sound tough(?), I'm stuck imagining you in a white teddy.
We need to meet. Seriously. What's your address?
If we're going to do this we meet on neutral ground. You and your crew against me and the Revolution.
OK, this was pretty damn funny.
Back to the subject at hand, Bush doesn't seem to understand what counterinsurgency strategy is. The one thing he did that I can actually support is put Petraeus in charge. If he had him instead of that lickspittle Tommy Franks, conditions on the ground would be much better (though certainly not the "greeted as liberators" bullshit fantasyland the Bush administration pushed). Similarly, if he had listened to Gen. Shinseki--who knew what the hell he's talking about--instead of that utterly useless piece of shit Wolfowitz (serious, did Wolfie get anything--anything at all--right about Iraq? Even one tiny little thing? From where I sit, he was completely wrong about everything...so naturally, he's the voice Bush listens to), we would've had proper strategy from the beginning, though, again, not the bullshit fantasyland Bush promoted.
I'm buying a membership to the zoo this weekend. me and hj will be able to go to the zoo and the wild animal park for free for a year. i'm so excited right now I can't stand it. I can't wait to see those crazy fucking monkeys. and also i want to see a rhino.
I was watching a show about america's deadliest animals, and they were talking about alligators, and I was like fuck those things, until it showed one pouncing on a skunk and then i thought hmmmm..... because we have a real bad skunk problem here. so i'm thinking hey, why not put an alligator in the canyon? well, they like water and there is no water in the canyon, so i guess that won't work.
so now i'm wondering what a skunk's other natural predators are. probably coyotes, but those things will eat people's cat and small dogs too, and plus we already have those here anyways, and they don't seem to be doing anything about the skunks.
I have not really posted on political topics before and I am not really into politics, but I have to say that I was pretty much digusted by Bush last night. Last night was one of the few times I have actually watched Bush or any president speak...so for me it was kinda of a new experience. I feel like this country is evolving into something that I really don't like. Mind you, this is coming from a person who is not really into politics. Speaking to my father who served in WW 2 in Holland, and France, I get the sense that he feels the same. Speaking with my uncles too who served as well..I believe they feel the same. They feel that this isn't what they fought for...i.e. having your mail opened and inspected by the gov't or fighting a war with no war direction. To me, Bush looked really scared and weak. I just don't believe in his mission or stance on Irag or most of issues. These are just my humble opinions.
Did anyone hear Barack Obama's comments regarding the speech last night???
I only hears a 30 second sound bite and would like to know what he said at length??
It was pretty standard Democratic POV stuff, with the usual(and sincere sounding) hope that there is SOME solution to the problem but that in his opinion it is not military at this point and that Bush's escalation plan is flawed.
He did better than the guy giving the official speech, who was charisma-deficient in his oration. Sounded like he was reading it right off the cards.
That's when I stopped watching, because I got tired of seeing people just grasping for straws on the whole issue. What a mess when I actually considered log-cabin Republican pumpikhead Andrew Sullivan to be making the most clearly thought out comments, most of which I can't even remember now. One comment involved wishing for a miracle.
The one line of reasoning that ran through all the comments last night, each talking head had to find a space to essentially say "look, nobody hopes that this WON'T work, but everyone knows it can't, given the reality of the situation."
Troops who led 2003 invasion deploy for third tour[/b]
FORT STEWART, Georgia (AP) -- Twice before, Sgt. Michael Konvicka has picked up a rifle to go to war. Doing it a third time won't be any easier.
"Every time I come back from Iraq, I tell my wife, 'I'm done honey, stick a fork in me,"' said Konvicka, 36, of Flint, Michigan. "I'm not really looking forward to it. But I've got 10 years in the Army, and I'm not about to throw that away."
Hours before President Bush was to announce his plan Wednesday to increase U.S. forces in Iraq, soldiers of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division said goodbye to their families as they deployed on their third tour. (Watch U.S. troops fighting in streets of BaghdadVideo)
The 19,000-troop 3rd Infantry, which helped lead the 2003 charge to Baghdad, is the first Army division to be tapped for a third deployment to the war. Barely a year has passed since its soldiers returned from their last yearlong rotation.
"It's another year I have to endure, and it's not easy," said Konvicka's wife, Sharon, resting her head on her husband's shoulder while soldiers piled duffel bags and rucksacks into trucks for shipping to Iraq.
Wives wept and wrapped their arms around husbands with rifles slung over their shoulders. Some 400 troops of the 2nd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment departing Wednesday are among 4,000 soldiers of the division's 1st Brigade Combat Team deploying this month.
"I hope it's the last one," said Staff Sgt. Harold Hensel, 30, of Little Valley, New York, hugging his pregnant wife, who is due in May, before leaving for his second combat tour. "I was hoping the first one was the last one. But duty calls."
The 3rd Infantry's three remaining combat brigades are scheduled to deploy later this year, including the 3rd Brigade at Fort Benning, Georgia, where Bush planned a visit Thursday.
Sgt. Brad Weston, 23, said he could see positives and negatives to the president's plan to increase troop levels in Iraq while he's deployed there.
"The benefit is you do get more time where you're not having to be out patrolling," said Weston of South Bend, Indiana, who is deploying on his third tour. "The negative thing is there's more violence when there are new people there who don't know the area well."
When the 3rd Infantry first deployed to Iraq in 2003, it quickly helped topple Saddam Hussein's regime. During its second tour in 2005, troops saw Iraqis elect their first democratic government.
But Cpl. Matt Venn, 21, of Wichita, Kansas, said he sees few signs of hope in 2007 with the increasing violence from insurgents and sectarian militias.
"There's not many people over there who are on the straight and narrow," said Venn, who had deployed to Iraq once before, in 2005. "Out of the year, you'll find two families who are really innocent. And that's the people, I guess, we're trying to help out."
Venn's wife, Theresa, said she fears Iraq has become "a hopeless cause."
Unlike most military spouses, she served in Iraq in 2004 as a surgical technician, treating everything from bullet wounds to burns and cuts from roadside bombs.
"It makes it harder, because I've dealt with every injury known to man," the 25-year-old said.
She is no longer in the military. "It's unnerving, but I like to be positive and just put it out of my mind."
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Troops who led 2003 invasion deploy for third tour[/b]
FORT STEWART, Georgia (AP) -- Twice before, Sgt. Michael Konvicka has picked up a rifle to go to war. Doing it a third time won't be any easier.
"Every time I come back from Iraq, I tell my wife, 'I'm done honey, stick a fork in me,"' said Konvicka, 36, of Flint, Michigan. "I'm not really looking forward to it. But I've got 10 years in the Army, and I'm not about to throw that away."
Hours before President Bush was to announce his plan Wednesday to increase U.S. forces in Iraq, soldiers of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division said goodbye to their families as they deployed on their third tour. (Watch U.S. troops fighting in streets of BaghdadVideo)
The 19,000-troop 3rd Infantry, which helped lead the 2003 charge to Baghdad, is the first Army division to be tapped for a third deployment to the war. Barely a year has passed since its soldiers returned from their last yearlong rotation.
"It's another year I have to endure, and it's not easy," said Konvicka's wife, Sharon, resting her head on her husband's shoulder while soldiers piled duffel bags and rucksacks into trucks for shipping to Iraq.
Wives wept and wrapped their arms around husbands with rifles slung over their shoulders. Some 400 troops of the 2nd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment departing Wednesday are among 4,000 soldiers of the division's 1st Brigade Combat Team deploying this month.
"I hope it's the last one," said Staff Sgt. Harold Hensel, 30, of Little Valley, New York, hugging his pregnant wife, who is due in May, before leaving for his second combat tour. "I was hoping the first one was the last one. But duty calls."
The 3rd Infantry's three remaining combat brigades are scheduled to deploy later this year, including the 3rd Brigade at Fort Benning, Georgia, where Bush planned a visit Thursday.
Sgt. Brad Weston, 23, said he could see positives and negatives to the president's plan to increase troop levels in Iraq while he's deployed there.
"The benefit is you do get more time where you're not having to be out patrolling," said Weston of South Bend, Indiana, who is deploying on his third tour. "The negative thing is there's more violence when there are new people there who don't know the area well."
When the 3rd Infantry first deployed to Iraq in 2003, it quickly helped topple Saddam Hussein's regime. During its second tour in 2005, troops saw Iraqis elect their first democratic government.
But Cpl. Matt Venn, 21, of Wichita, Kansas, said he sees few signs of hope in 2007 with the increasing violence from insurgents and sectarian militias.
"There's not many people over there who are on the straight and narrow," said Venn, who had deployed to Iraq once before, in 2005. "Out of the year, you'll find two families who are really innocent. And that's the people, I guess, we're trying to help out."
Venn's wife, Theresa, said she fears Iraq has become "a hopeless cause."
Unlike most military spouses, she served in Iraq in 2004 as a surgical technician, treating everything from bullet wounds to burns and cuts from roadside bombs.
"It makes it harder, because I've dealt with every injury known to man," the 25-year-old said.
She is no longer in the military. "It's unnerving, but I like to be positive and just put it out of my mind."
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
How do you pro-Bush/war folks feel about this?
Sad that there seem to be more people like fatback in this country and less people like Sgt. Konvicka.
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Oh right, so you can come steal all my brazilian raers while Im out waiting for you. I don't think so.
that's too much. i'm falling over.
The spelling puts it over the top.
Isn't "bosum" actually a nautical term for some sort of ship's officer... or is that "bosun"?
If we're going to do this we meet on neutral ground. You and your crew against me and the Revolution.
actually it was "busom". but does it matter?
Ahoy, mate!
Crew? Hey, hey, hold on...I'm not talking about fighting anymore. And I ain't gonna share nothin'
I needs your ample buzom 2myself. The bitch can watch.
If by "bitch" you mean your dad. wouldn't you rather keep hiding your "lifestyle choice" from him.
don't matter. whomever/whatever. long as I get first hit into that top-shelf bosum.
AKA the perfect thursday!
Wow.
OK, this was pretty damn funny.
Back to the subject at hand, Bush doesn't seem to understand what counterinsurgency strategy is. The one thing he did that I can actually support is put Petraeus in charge. If he had him instead of that lickspittle Tommy Franks, conditions on the ground would be much better (though certainly not the "greeted as liberators" bullshit fantasyland the Bush administration pushed). Similarly, if he had listened to Gen. Shinseki--who knew what the hell he's talking about--instead of that utterly useless piece of shit Wolfowitz (serious, did Wolfie get anything--anything at all--right about Iraq? Even one tiny little thing? From where I sit, he was completely wrong about everything...so naturally, he's the voice Bush listens to), we would've had proper strategy from the beginning, though, again, not the bullshit fantasyland Bush promoted.
i keed, i keed...
I was watching a show about america's deadliest animals, and they were talking about alligators, and I was like fuck those things, until it showed one pouncing on a skunk and then i thought hmmmm..... because we have a real bad skunk problem here. so i'm thinking hey, why not put an alligator in the canyon? well, they like water and there is no water in the canyon, so i guess that won't work.
so now i'm wondering what a skunk's other natural predators are. probably coyotes, but those things will eat people's cat and small dogs too, and plus we already have those here anyways, and they don't seem to be doing anything about the skunks.
perhaps bears.
killer bees scare the shit out of me.
Amir
I only hears a 30 second sound bite and would like to know what he said at length??
you damn people.
this is waaaaaaaaaay past nuanced policy discussions.
unless you just want to floss your mini-punditry stance.
well, go for it.
Bush needs to hang for this.
Do I need to go over to the Saddam hanging thread and drag all you eye for an eye nutsacks the fuck out here?
you know who you are.
how about an eye for eyes[/b]?
It was pretty standard Democratic POV stuff, with the usual(and sincere sounding) hope that there is SOME solution to the problem but that in his opinion it is not military at this point and that Bush's escalation plan is flawed.
He did better than the guy giving the official speech, who was charisma-deficient in his oration. Sounded like he was reading it right off the cards.
That's when I stopped watching, because I got tired of seeing people just grasping for straws on the whole issue. What a mess when I actually considered log-cabin Republican pumpikhead Andrew Sullivan to be making the most clearly thought out comments, most of which I can't even remember now. One comment involved wishing for a miracle.
The one line of reasoning that ran through all the comments last night, each talking head had to find a space to essentially say "look, nobody hopes that this WON'T work, but everyone knows it can't, given the reality of the situation."
take your meds.
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Troops who led 2003 invasion deploy for third tour[/b]
FORT STEWART, Georgia (AP) -- Twice before, Sgt. Michael Konvicka has picked up a rifle to go to war. Doing it a third time won't be any easier.
"Every time I come back from Iraq, I tell my wife, 'I'm done honey, stick a fork in me,"' said Konvicka, 36, of Flint, Michigan. "I'm not really looking forward to it. But I've got 10 years in the Army, and I'm not about to throw that away."
Hours before President Bush was to announce his plan Wednesday to increase U.S. forces in Iraq, soldiers of the Army's 3rd Infantry Division said goodbye to their families as they deployed on their third tour. (Watch U.S. troops fighting in streets of BaghdadVideo)
The 19,000-troop 3rd Infantry, which helped lead the 2003 charge to Baghdad, is the first Army division to be tapped for a third deployment to the war. Barely a year has passed since its soldiers returned from their last yearlong rotation.
"It's another year I have to endure, and it's not easy," said Konvicka's wife, Sharon, resting her head on her husband's shoulder while soldiers piled duffel bags and rucksacks into trucks for shipping to Iraq.
Wives wept and wrapped their arms around husbands with rifles slung over their shoulders. Some 400 troops of the 2nd Battalion, 7th Infantry Regiment departing Wednesday are among 4,000 soldiers of the division's 1st Brigade Combat Team deploying this month.
"I hope it's the last one," said Staff Sgt. Harold Hensel, 30, of Little Valley, New York, hugging his pregnant wife, who is due in May, before leaving for his second combat tour. "I was hoping the first one was the last one. But duty calls."
The 3rd Infantry's three remaining combat brigades are scheduled to deploy later this year, including the 3rd Brigade at Fort Benning, Georgia, where Bush planned a visit Thursday.
Sgt. Brad Weston, 23, said he could see positives and negatives to the president's plan to increase troop levels in Iraq while he's deployed there.
"The benefit is you do get more time where you're not having to be out patrolling," said Weston of South Bend, Indiana, who is deploying on his third tour. "The negative thing is there's more violence when there are new people there who don't know the area well."
When the 3rd Infantry first deployed to Iraq in 2003, it quickly helped topple Saddam Hussein's regime. During its second tour in 2005, troops saw Iraqis elect their first democratic government.
But Cpl. Matt Venn, 21, of Wichita, Kansas, said he sees few signs of hope in 2007 with the increasing violence from insurgents and sectarian militias.
"There's not many people over there who are on the straight and narrow," said Venn, who had deployed to Iraq once before, in 2005. "Out of the year, you'll find two families who are really innocent. And that's the people, I guess, we're trying to help out."
Venn's wife, Theresa, said she fears Iraq has become "a hopeless cause."
Unlike most military spouses, she served in Iraq in 2004 as a surgical technician, treating everything from bullet wounds to burns and cuts from roadside bombs.
"It makes it harder, because I've dealt with every injury known to man," the 25-year-old said.
She is no longer in the military. "It's unnerving, but I like to be positive and just put it out of my mind."
Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved.This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
How do you pro-Bush/war folks feel about this?
Sad that there seem to be more people like fatback in this country and less people like Sgt. Konvicka.