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whats your favorite knot for a tie

alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
edited September 2006 in Strut Central
i had to wait for record day to expire before posting this, but ya, what's your favorite knot for a tie? entering a corporate dressed workplace, i had to buy a bunch of ties, and the only knot im familiar with is the one i did in highschool...only for the sake of convenience. my pops had these ties with skinny skinny knots, in my opinion NAGL, but neither is those fat assed jay-z ones. what else is out there? ps: i feel like a chump asking this, but are there any tutorials on how to tie the variations?
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  • Phill_MostPhill_Most 4,594 Posts
    Classic four-in-hand. It was cool that the full Windsors came back into vogue (although without an extra long tie that schitt will look like a little boy's clip-on), but nothing beats your basic four-in-hand.
  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
    Classic four-in-hand. It was cool that the full Windsors came back into vogue (although without an extra long tie that schitt will look like a little boy's clip-on), but nothing beats your basic four-in-hand.

    i think thats what i currently kick:

  • BeekBeek 146 Posts
    I prefer a half windsor...

    Google "how to tie a tie" and you'll get a number of tutorials for each knot
  • TSGTSG 274 Posts
    i had to wait for record day to expire before posting this, but ya, what's your favorite knot for a tie? entering a corporate dressed workplace, i had to buy a bunch of ties, and the only knot im familiar with is the one i did in highschool...only for the sake of convenience. my pops had these ties with skinny skinny knots, in my opinion NAGL, but neither is those fat assed jay-z ones. what else is out there?



    ps: i feel like a chump asking this, but are there any tutorials on how to tie the variations?

    you shouldn't feel like a chump, i was just thinking about this today because i'm preparing for my sister's wedding. i was wondering what kind of knot to go with. and what is currently a good look. i have a slim, solid, maroon-ish tie.

    i found the link below to be a nice resource with several different options...but i'm still not sure. anyone who has some more input, that would be appreciated.

    http://www.krawattenknoten.info/krawatten/Krawattenknoten/tieknot.html
  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts
    half windsor...

    Depends on the collar though. Half windsors look nice with a spread collar but four in a hands look best with like a button-down collar.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Classic four-in-hand.
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,851 Posts
    Full windsor, cutaway/spread collar. The key is to use the right tie, that is one which is somewhat narrower than what's currently fashionable. It's an incredibly elegant style.

    Botton collars with a tie is, in my opinion, not a good look.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Botton collars, in my opinion, not a good look.
  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
    Botton collars, in my opinion, not a good look.

    nah i think they're a great look, with a loose tie, not a professional look, but i like it...has to be a dark shirt, like black or navy blue with white buttons
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Botton collars, in my opinion, not a good look.

    nah i think they're a great look, with a loose tie, not a professional look, but i like it...has to be a dark shirt, like black or navy blue with white buttons







  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    half windsor...

    Depends on the collar though. Half windsors look nice with a spread collar but four in a hands look best with like a button-down collar.

    Much like pleated khakis, the "best" look when it comes to button-down collars is to simply avoid them.
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Botton collars, in my opinion, not a good look.

    nah i think they're a great look, with a loose tie, not a professional look, but i like it...has to be a dark shirt, like black or navy blue with white buttons

    This has got to be a record for the most fashion faux pas ever crammed into a two-line post...
  • Mad Drama TeacherMad Drama Teacher 1,985 Posts
    Button-downs are acceptable for the avuncular, "Come tug the beard" look of your local, sartorial professor.
  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts
    Botton collars, in my opinion, not a good look.

    nah i think they're a great look, with a loose tie, not a professional look, but i like it...has to be a dark shirt, like black or navy blue with white buttons

    This has got to be a record for the most fashion faux pas ever crammed into a two-line post...

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts

  • alieNDNalieNDN 2,181 Posts


    unquote that one, it lacks "glow"


    ^un-faux-pas
  • The_NonThe_Non 5,691 Posts
    Rock a bolo!
  • Danno3000Danno3000 2,851 Posts
    Rock a bolo!

    Or an ascot.
  • keithvanhornkeithvanhorn 3,855 Posts
    Botton collars, in my opinion, not a good look.

    nah i think they're a great look, with a loose tie, not a professional look, but i like it...has to be a dark shirt, like black or navy blue with white buttons

    This has got to be a record for the most fashion faux pas ever crammed into a two-line post...

    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call. as for buttoned-down shirts, they aren't my style but there is nothing wrong with them.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.

    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.
  • keithvanhornkeithvanhorn 3,855 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.

    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.

    lets see some pics!

    also, on what occasion? if not a mob hit, than a funeral? cause you're not gonna roll into a board meeting with a black shirt and tie.
  • CousinLarryCousinLarry 4,618 Posts
    Botton collars, in my opinion, not a good look.

    nah i think they're a great look, with a loose tie, not a professional look, but i like it...has to be a dark shirt, like black or navy blue with white buttons

    This has got to be a record for the most fashion faux pas ever crammed into a two-line post...

    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call. as for buttoned-down shirts, they aren't my style but there is nothing wrong with them.

    When I was 12 my mom let my step dad take me to get some nice cloths for a bat mitzvah I was going to for a classmate. My step father has the fashion sense of a sapranos extra. He got me a black shirt and pants and a white tie and suspenders. When my mom saw she just started laughing but it was the day of and I had to wear it.
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.

    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.

    Unless you're an entertainer and you're going over the top for a stage appearance or something, this is not going to work.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.
    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.
    lets see some pics!
    also, on what occasion? if not a mob hit, than a funeral? cause you're not gonna roll into a board meeting with a black shirt and tie.

    Up in the club. To the runway show. To the gallery opening.To the Hives concert?
    A board meeting in Milan. There are no rules in fashion. In nyc u can get away w/ this at a board meeting, maybe not in Pennsylvania.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.
    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.
    lets see some pics!
    also, on what occasion? if not a mob hit, than a funeral? cause you're not gonna roll into a board meeting with a black shirt and tie.

    Up in the club. To the runway show. To the gallery opening.To the Hives concert?
    A board meeting in Milan. There are no rules in fashion. In nyc u can get away w/ this at a board meeting, maybe not in Pennsylvania.

    Perhaps in the art world, but in the real world, while you wouldn't be escorted out, you would be a distraction--people would be covertly laughing at you, rather than listening to anything you have to say.

    But what we're really quibbling over here is the appropriateness of it, not whether or not it looks good, which is what the discussion is supposed to be about, and there are all kinds of bizarre things that might be appropriate at a runway show that just don't look good. Black shirts + ties are one of them.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.
    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.
    lets see some pics!
    also, on what occasion? if not a mob hit, than a funeral? cause you're not gonna roll into a board meeting with a black shirt and tie.

    Up in the club. To the runway show. To the gallery opening.To the Hives concert?
    A board meeting in Milan. There are no rules in fashion. In nyc u can get away w/ this at a board meeting, maybe not in Pennsylvania.

    Perhaps in the art world, but in the real world, while you wouldn't be escorted out, you would be a distraction--people would be covertly laughing at you, rather than listening to anything you have to say.

    That quite conservative.


  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.
    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.
    lets see some pics!
    also, on what occasion? if not a mob hit, than a funeral? cause you're not gonna roll into a board meeting with a black shirt and tie.

    Up in the club. To the runway show. To the gallery opening.To the Hives concert?
    A board meeting in Milan. There are no rules in fashion. In nyc u can get away w/ this at a board meeting, maybe not in Pennsylvania.

    Perhaps in the art world, but in the real world, while you wouldn't be escorted out, you would be a distraction--people would be covertly laughing at you, rather than listening to anything you have to say.

    That quite conservative.

    Hey I deal with corporate types all day... they're New Yorkers, but I think most of them would view a black shirt + tie as crossing the line from "sartorial flair" to "costumery"
  • keithvanhornkeithvanhorn 3,855 Posts

    Up in the club. To the runway show. To the gallery opening.To the Hives concert?
    A board meeting in Milan. There are no rules in fashion. In nyc u can get away w/ this at a board meeting, maybe not in Pennsylvania.


    i disagree with faux. aside from being inappropriate, the black shirt/tie combo is just .

    however, you have inspired my halloween costume for this year. i think i am gonna go as one of those former musician/rocker types who never made it and now gives music lessons to kids. my outfit will consist of black jeans and chuck taylors, along with a black dress shirt and one of these ties:

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    yea, you should never wear a black shirt and a tie unless you are going to a soprano's casting call.
    I disagree. U can freak a Black dress shirt w/ the Right tie. You just have to know what your doin'.
    lets see some pics!
    also, on what occasion? if not a mob hit, than a funeral? cause you're not gonna roll into a board meeting with a black shirt and tie.

    Up in the club. To the runway show. To the gallery opening.To the Hives concert?
    A board meeting in Milan. There are no rules in fashion. In nyc u can get away w/ this at a board meeting, maybe not in Pennsylvania.

    Perhaps in the art world, but in the real world, while you wouldn't be escorted out, you would be a distraction--people would be covertly laughing at you, rather than listening to anything you have to say.

    That quite conservative.

    Hey I deal with corporate types all day... they're New Yorkers, but I think most of them would view a black shirt + tie as crossing the line from "sartorial flair" to "costumery"

    Also, when I was in law school, here in Manhattan, I had a professor that used to come in dressed like he thought he was a gangster--black shirts under his suits all day. The unanimous consensus amongst the class of 100 was that he was a clown.
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts

    Up in the club. To the runway show. To the gallery opening.To the Hives concert?
    A board meeting in Milan. There are no rules in fashion. In nyc u can get away w/ this at a board meeting, maybe not in Pennsylvania.


    i disagree with faux. aside from being inappropriate, the black shirt/tie combo is just .

    Isn't that what I said--what part do you disagree with?
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