people of color. what does this mean?

FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
edited August 2006 in Strut Central
I was posting this on the urban pet peeves thread, but decided that shit was hijacked enoughtoday.please to explain this people of color thing? oliver used it the other day in the project runway thread. i hear it on ed gordon. and other places.Looking for occurrences of this "of color" say vs "colored" lead me, not surprisingly, to Dr. King. For example, "In a sense we've come to our nation's capital to cash a check. When the architects of our republic wrote the magnificent words of the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence, they were signing a promissory note to which every American was to fall heir. This note was a promise that all men, yes, black men as well as white men, would be guaranteed the "unalienable Rights" of "Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness." It is obvious today that America has defaulted on this promissory note, insofar as her citizens of color[/b] are concerned. Instead of honoring this sacred obligation, America has given the Negro people a bad check, a check which has come back marked "insufficient funds."My understanding is Dr. King was referring to african american descendants of former slaves, although in that example, he went on to use the term Negro.These days, the term is used to describe anybody but white people. And in a conversation with someone last week, they also included women and GLBT in this term (she looked like the girl below--which got me thinking about this again). I think this is ridiculous. But I'd like to understand this term and why its accepted to you use a term that implies anyone who is not white. and how much non-white do you need in your genetic make-up to be "of color"? sound like some jim crow type shit. stupid.I'm not getting on some "where's the NAAWP" bullshit. My point is that this term is kind of silly because it really tells you very little.When URBAN became synonomous w/ BLACK/AFRICAN-AMERICAN. Never liked that shit and never will. Agree with that 100%, and add 'gritty,' to the list. Once, when I got drunk around a bunch of PIRG kids (they're the ones from Page 2 asking, "If you have a second for the environment,") one said that Boston wasn't gritty enough. I asked her what she meant by that and she said, "you know...dirtier...like dirty rice. More people of color[/b]." did she look like this? They all did. God, it was a great night...I got so surley...they were all strangers, and I didn't want to make any friends.They all smoked, which bothered me, because here they all were, 'fighting the man,' and spending $6/pack to support Phillip Morris. I mean, smoke if you want, but don't preach at me through your cigarettes, foll.
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  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    I think the point of it is that it puts 'people' first rather than suggesting that their race is what defines them (as in the case of 'colored people').

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    I think the point of it is that it puts 'people' first rather than suggesting that their race is what defines them (as in the case of 'colored people').

    true. but both are dumb because...what color? everybody has color. is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic i man harvey_canal.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    I think the point of it is that it puts 'people' first rather than suggesting that their race is what defines them (as in the case of 'colored people').

    true. but both are dumb because what color? everybody has color? is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic.

    If yr looking for a scientific basis for a race discussion you are prob not going to have much luck man.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    I think the point of it is that it puts 'people' first rather than suggesting that their race is what defines them (as in the case of 'colored people').

    true. but both are dumb because what color? everybody has color? is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic.

    If yr looking for a scientific basis for a race discussion you are prob not going to have much luck man.

    we need to buy this dude a title. how about "lil crink"?

  • 5 FUCKIN' PAGER ALERT B/W WHITE PEOPLE BEING ASS-FUCKIN'-HURT BONUS BEATS.

    FYI:

    People of color= brown, Black, & Asian folks.

    P.S.

    Hey White Guy, Ther term "POC" is not silly.

    have a nice day.

    P.P.S.

    I think "women and GLBT" has to do with gender than color and culture.

  • In the context in which the girl in question used it, she meant not white people. I think her's was a prime example of white pc guilt and self-loathing.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    I donno dude i thought your observation about how the concept of 'race' is stupid was real insightful and all but I don't think you get to decide my title yet. (re: fatback)

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    but I'm really waiting for big stacks to weigh in on this.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts


    true. but both are dumb because...what color? everybody has color. is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic i man harvey_canal.

    I dunno know about you, but I can see right through many people.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    I donno dude i thought your observation about how the concept of 'race' is stupid was real insightful and all but I don't think you get to decide my title yet. (re: fatback)

    i'll buy you a title that will cost a lot of money to replace.
    btw--did moms get that diaper? cause you still hummin'

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    I donno dude i thought your observation about how the concept of 'race' is stupid was real insightful and all but I don't think you get to decide my title yet. (re: fatback)

    Anyone ready to spend $10 can foist a title on you, deej.

  • The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.


    It depends. I guess I can see how it can be an antiquated term coming from a "white point of view" but personally I think it's a way for all people of color to identify with themselves and each other things that face in today's world. WHen I say things I mean a wide variety of topics from racism, gender roles within each individual culture, language barriers, all while trying to survive and adapt in a predominantly white world.....

    but yo this is going to be a great thread, I can tell already.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

  • nzshadownzshadow 5,518 Posts


    true. but both are dumb because...what color? everybody has color. is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic i man harvey_canal.

    I dunno know about you, but I can see right through many people.



    absolutly the last word on this subject.

  • The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

    what would you recomend? Personally I don't find anything offensive about it.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    I donno dude i thought your observation about how the concept of 'race' is stupid was real insightful and all but I don't think you get to decide my title yet. (re: fatback)

    my concept that "race is stupid"?

    oh boy.

    let's start simple for you.

    OK. Now read the top line right to left.


  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts


    true. but both are dumb because...what color? everybody has color. is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic i man harvey_canal.

    I dunno know about you, but I can see right through many people.



  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

    what would you recomend? Personally I don't find anything offensive about it.

    So your allright w/ white folks and the rest of THEM? Think about it. Its creates a hierarchy.

  • If anything, white folks are the minority[/b]


    Maffamatically speaking, that is.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

    what would you recomend? Personally I don't find anything offensive about it.

    I'm not offended by it. Be sure about that. I'm just wondering what it means.
    African American? African? Hispanic? Asian? Pacific Islander? Native American? etc.

    What? All of the above? Or more?

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    I think the point of it is that it puts 'people' first rather than suggesting that their race is what defines them (as in the case of 'colored people').

    true. but both are dumb because...what color? everybody has color. is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic i man harvey_canal.

    I think my vision's working fine man, i just didnt think yr attempt at (playing?) ignorant was very amusing/interesting, sorry.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    I think the point of it is that it puts 'people' first rather than suggesting that their race is what defines them (as in the case of 'colored people').

    true. but both are dumb because...what color? everybody has color. is there a secret race of clear people? i'll PM archaic i man harvey_canal.

    I think my vision's working fine man, i just didnt think yr attempt at funny was very amusing/interesting, sorry.

    i'm not trying to be funny, deeeeej. well, except for the part about you needing potty training.

    point is, you need to slow down and read shit.

  • The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

    what would you recomend? Personally I don't find anything offensive about it.

    So your allright w/ white folks and the rest of THEM? Think about it. Its creates a hierarchy.


    Naw man not even, it's never crossed my mine that it puts people in a hierarchy. Like I said (or maybe just implied in a previous post) I thik of sort of works as a identifier (sp) for the things we go through. (this might matter to you and pertain to the convo but I'm latino)

  • nzshadownzshadow 5,518 Posts
    STOP!













    perspective:
















































    continue.

  • The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

    what would you recomend? Personally I don't find anything offensive about it.

    I'm not offended by it. Be sure about that. I'm just wondering what it means.
    African American? African? Hispanic? Asian? Pacific Islander? Native American? etc.

    What? All of the above? Or more?


    yes yes yes yes yes yes. That's what I mean by "brown,black, and asian folks".

    FYI: Hispanic=bullshit-ass bogus term.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    for some reason i can smell that picture.

  • The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

    what would you recomend? Personally I don't find anything offensive about it.

    So your allright w/ white folks and the rest of THEM? Think about it. Its creates a hierarchy.


    Naw man not even, it's never crossed my mine that it puts people in a hierarchy. Like I said (or maybe just implied in a previous post) I thik of sort of works as a identifier (sp) for the things we go through. (this might matter to you and pertain to the convo but I'm latino)

    I think that the more insidious part is that it creates a hierarchy for many without them being aware of it. Or, if not a hierarchy, a distinction.

  • Most of the terms now deemed as 'acceptable,' are bullshit terms, to address something above. I mean, what the hell is 'African-American'? 'Hispanic'? There all made up terms designed to make everyone feel better about themselves, while not changing anything that needs to be changed.

  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    The term should be erased. Shit is so antiquated. Its a Eurocentric perspective that marginalizes anyone not "White".

    If anything, white folks are the colored folks.

    i'm not sure what you mean.

    The term Colored was created by white folks. Over time the term has morphed into "people of color".

    what would you recomend? Personally I don't find anything offensive about it.

    I'm not offended by it. Be sure about that. I'm just wondering what it means.
    African American? African? Hispanic? Asian? Pacific Islander? Native American? etc.

    What? All of the above? Or more?


    yes yes yes yes yes yes. That's what I mean by "brown,black, and asian folks".

    FYI: Hispanic=bullshit-ass bogus term.

    These are census terms (i typed african twice by accident). I do not particularly agree with those either, but I'm try to use an accepted standard. However, Hispanic or Non-Hispanic is its own category under ethnicity. Not race. So, my mistake.
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