NAS VS. REDMAN

batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
edited June 2011 in Strut Central
Career,impact,lyrics,flow,style,records,sales,whatevs........

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  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    ILLMATIC > Redman
    Redman > Nas

    for me, anyway.

  • the_dLthe_dL 1,531 Posts
    good comparison
    redman just wins out for me just due to consistency and I think he has a better ear for beats

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    the_dL said:
    good comparison
    redman just wins out for me just due to consistency and I think he has a better ear for beats

    he was lucky to be mentor and in the Eric Sermon camp.

  • CosmoCosmo 9,767 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    ILLMATIC > Redman
    Redman > Nas

    for me, anyway.

    That's pretty good actually.

  • the_dLthe_dL 1,531 Posts
    batmon said:
    the_dL said:
    good comparison
    redman just wins out for me just due to consistency and I think he has a better ear for beats

    he was lucky to be mentor and in the Eric Sermon camp.

    true, and a big part of that is the fact that he has allways been down with those dudes, Nas seems to change producers really often which I think doesnt help maintain any sort of consistent sound, I imagine that this would more than likely be due to being under more commercial pressure than Redman (in my private mindgarden anyway)

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Yall know my stance on ILLmatic but I wont front on what it did for the game.

    Im really tryin to wrestle w/ the mc vs mc part.

    Nas is the more "intelligent" mc, but Redman's cleverness and wittiness matches that IMO.
    Redmans humor is more appealing to me, yet Nas does take chances.
    Shit like Rewind is a great idea, that i dont think any went there before.

    Banger for Banger....i dont feel like doin the math on that one.

    I have more fun when listening to Redman.

  • kitchenknightkitchenknight 4,922 Posts
    Redman is weirder and takes himself less seriously.
    Nas' subject matter can be weightier.

    On a personal level, I have some great/hazy memories of getting seriously zooted and listening to The Superman Lover.

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    redman

  • SIRUSSIRUS 2,554 Posts
    i don't know about tune fi tune, but album for album? redman all the way. his catalogue crushes nas's.

  • SpacechoSpacecho 176 Posts
    rootlesscosmo said:
    redman

  • I love them both, but I always gravitated more towards Redman's catalogue because he sounded like he had fun making those albums of his. I don't know how to explain it, but there was always an eccentricity and enthusiasm in Redman's performance that I never really felt from Nas. And that enthusiam had me enthused to listen and enjoy. Plus, I think Nas had to spend the rest of his career living up to or surpassing Illmatic. Redman could do as he pleased. And it was pleasing to me.



    One of my faves.

  • batmon said:
    Im really tryin to wrestle w/ the mc vs mc part.

    Nas is the more "intelligent" mc, but Redman's cleverness and wittiness matches that IMO.
    Redmans humor is more appealing to me, yet Nas does take chances.
    Shit like Rewind is a great idea, that i dont think any went there before.

    Banger for Banger....i dont feel like doin the math on that one.

    yeah, this is right on point.

    I've always felt that Redman has been underrated as a top mc because of the, sort of, goofiness factor. i think the clever lines he has are sort of over shadowed by his rap style to most of the public. It seems like, in teh 90's specifically, the joking/goofy mc was always second tier to the serious/intellctual rapper in terms of a "best lyricist" debate.

    Illmatic > Redman but Redman over Nas pretty much sums this thread up

  • StoneHandsStoneHands 341 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    ILLMATIC > Redman
    Redman > Nas

    for me, anyway.

    +1

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    walter_chron said:
    It seems like, in teh 90's specifically, the joking/goofy mc was always second tier to the serious/intellctual rapper in terms of a "best lyricist" debate.

    yes and this is why the Liks never got the respect they deserved.

  • JimsterJimster Twilight Zone/ Al Capone/ Rolling Stone/ Eva Perón 6,391 Posts
    Nas always y-so-srs, Redman happy to push over dude in bunny mask in Xtina video and yet remain somehow :connected: ...

    Redman.

  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    albums=redman
    singles=nas
    flow=tie (two of the best)
    career=redman
    impact=nas slightly (i wish redman had had more impact)
    current streak=redman slightly (both are still relevant)
    live presence=redman
    videos=redman
    consistency=redman



  • so sick, but yeah Illmatic trumps all Red's shit

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    don_gigante said:

    so sick, but yeah Illmatic trumps all Red's shit

    What? The Album > Illmatic.

  • batmon said:
    don_gigante said:

    so sick, but yeah Illmatic trumps all Red's shit

    What? The Album > Illmatic.

    haha, please be serious...What? is a great album though...b/w

    Juice Sndtrk> Whut? The Album

  • TLinTLin 18 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    ILLMATIC > Redman
    Redman > Nas

    for me, anyway.
    ya i like this


  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,471 Posts
    jjfad027 said:

    It never gets old--a true classique. I adopted the dollar box idea for a while.

  • was this ever settled?

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Frank Ocean > Nas & Redman

  • Orly?

    Report to Frank Ocean thread stat if ur not trolling

  • sticky_dojahsticky_dojah New York City. 2,115 Posts

  • I must have missed this thread first time around. The consensus surprises me.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    SmallAxeRick said:
    I must have missed this thread first time around. The consensus surprises me.

    Explain

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts


    vs.


  • whoever wrote illmatic > redman; redman > nas was totally on point.

    redman doesn't have an illmatic (who does?), but he's been way more consistently entertaining over the yrs, and I don't mean "entertaining" in a haha way, I mean his music/rapping has been much more enjoyable to me musically over the yrs.
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