I don't know what's more embarrassing: the corny Blackberry ad, or all the international DJ superstars in this thread tripping over each other to give the dude a handjob
I don't know what's more embarrassing: the corny Blackberry ad, or all the international DJ superstars in this thread tripping over each other to give the dude a handjob
I vote for the nobodies putting in their two cents like it means something.
Like you and I.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Honestly I'm surprised the term sell out is even used anymore with the current state of the music industry.
Uhh, you're surprised? The thing about integrity is that it's not supposed to be affected by the whims of the external world. "Gee, it's raining today, I might as well throw all my principles by the wayside."
I fail to understand what gives you the right to judge how another person chooses to make a living.
And I would hardly call the downward trends of the music industry "the whims of the external world." More like, "Gosh it's been raining quite awhile now, I think I'll get myself a raincoat."
I fail to understand what gives you the right to judge how another person chooses to make a living.
And I would hardly call the downward trends of the music industry "the whims of the external world." More like, "Gosh it's been raining quite awhile now, I think I'll get myself a raincoat."
I haven't judged anyone in this thread so hold your horses. (And the logical end point of the type of individualism you seem to promote is "what gives you the right to judge how a kiddie porn dealer chooses to make his living"-- but I digress.)
I only addressed the nonsense of "selling out" not existing in today's world. If musician X takes an anti-capitalist stance in his music, and then turns around and signs an endorsement deal with corporation X, how is that not sell out, and what the hell does "the current state of the music industry" have to do with the issue?
If musician X takes an anti-capitalist stance in his music, and then turns around and signs an endorsement deal with corporation X, how is that not sell out
I agree with this....but I am not sure if it would make it so I wouldn't buy X's records if I loved the music still.
If musician X takes an anti-capitalist stance in his music, and then turns around and signs an endorsement deal with corporation X, how is that not sell out
I agree with this....but I am not sure if it would make it so I wouldn't buy X's records if I loved the music still.
:/
Also, people are allowed change positions for reasons other than being a hypocrite. So one person's sell-out is another person's human being.
I fail to understand what gives you the right to judge how another person chooses to make a living.
And I would hardly call the downward trends of the music industry "the whims of the external world." More like, "Gosh it's been raining quite awhile now, I think I'll get myself a raincoat."
I haven't judged anyone in this thread so hold your horses. (And the logical end point of the type of individualism you seem to promote is "what gives you the right to judge how a kiddie porn dealer chooses to make his living"-- but I digress.)
I only addressed the nonsense of "selling out" not existing in today's world. If musician X takes an anti-capitalist stance in his music, and then turns around and signs an endorsement deal with corporation X, how is that not sell out, and what the hell does "the current state of the music industry" have to do with the issue?
Fair points.
All I'm saying is that these days, the market for physical products is clearly shrinking. Touring is arguably headed in the same direction. At the very least, the market for live shows is becoming more clustured. Artists need to seek out different sources of income to succeed.
As for your definition of selling out, I just don't think it's that cut and dry. Being anti-capitalist and having to operate within a capitalist society aren't mutually exclusive. Additionally, I don't think most of these artists are claiming to be anti-capitalist in the first place.
Everybody has to make a living. I don't see how this is much different than Timmy, who also dislikes capitalism, having to work in the call center trying to talk people into upgrading their cable package. People have to compromise their values to a degree to get by.
He's just a fuckin dude that made good. Let him live.
, times a fucking million. Those dodging pubic hairs in their keyboards while manifesting their vacuum-tite esoterica might need be reminded that their revolution(s) will not be fought by those with expanding bottoms and well-filed Cheeto dust.
Dude is in shape. Man is reaching and button-pushing and is ostensibly not a piece of shit and is kind-of perfect for what he is pitching. It's not really "Hello. I'm Che Guevara for Goldman Sachs. You know, it's better to live on your interest than die on your fees." Dude was a Sandwich Artist less than ten years ago and is now part of a multi-million USD worldwide ad campaign. I think that I'm seeing a crossing guard of sorts in this Blackberry advertisement, although it might be hard to see it because his feet and arms are moving around a lot and he's not wearing a vest you can see from Poughkeepsie.
(as an adjoinder: would it really be better if kid-movers were co-opted in Money ad camps? Do they deserve it more? Can a crossing guard sell out?)
Skit: a Musician is liked by early fans. Musician gets big and makes music for a wider audience, which turns off the early-adopters. Wash, Rinse, Yawn GIF. Don't get caught in the tumble-dry. It's not always about the Music Class War.
If I was talented enough to compose music that some of you liked tomorrow and then, at some later date, after much hustling, ass sweat, and the firing of all my four chambers, I began to reach a wider audience, I know there'd be some et-tuing up in here. QED.
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
luck said:
day said:
He's just a fuckin dude that made good. Let him live.
, times a fucking million. Those dodging pubic hairs in their keyboards while manifesting their vacuum-tite esoterica might need be reminded that their revolution(s) will not be fought by those with expanding bottoms and well-filed Cheeto dust.
Dude is in shape. Man is reaching and button-pushing and is ostensibly not a piece of shit and is kind-of perfect for what he is pitching. It's not really "Hello. I'm Che Guevara for Goldman Sachs. You know, it's better to live on your interest than die on your fees." Dude was a Sandwich Artist less than ten years ago and is now part of a multi-million USD worldwide ad campaign. I think that I'm seeing a crossing guard of sorts in this Blackberry advertisement, although it might be hard to see it because his feet and arms are moving around a lot and he's not wearing a vest you can see from Poughkeepsie.
(as an adjoinder: would it really be better if kid-movers were co-opted in Money ad camps? Do they deserve it more? Can a crossing guard sell out?)
Skit: a Musician is liked by early fans. Musician gets big and makes music for a wider audience, which turns off the early-adopters. Wash, Rinse, Yawn GIF. Don't get caught in the tumble-dry. It's not always about the Music Class War.
If I was talented enough to compose music that some of you liked tomorrow and then, at some later date, after much hustling, ass sweat, and the firing of all my four chambers, I began to reach a wider audience, I know there'd be some et-tuing up in here. QED.
I have no opinion of Diplo since he doesn't affect my money. That's how about my money I am.
^^^
Post of the year.
hahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaa
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
Commercials: a slight return.
According to Dres 'pon the Twitter, since this commercial began running in Japan, downloads of The Choice Is Yours have topped 700,000.
Oddly enough, I was talking about the Diplo commercial with some friends/friends of friends over the weekend. One of them, a graphic designer whose work some of you may well have seen, said to me that one of the saddest days of his life was the day he decided to sell out, only to discover that nobody wanted to buy.
He's just a fuckin dude that made good. Let him live.
, times a fucking million. Those dodging pubic hairs in their keyboards while manifesting their vacuum-tite esoterica might need be reminded that their revolution(s) will not be fought by those with expanding bottoms and well-filed Cheeto dust.
Dude is in shape. Man is reaching and button-pushing and is ostensibly not a piece of shit and is kind-of perfect for what he is pitching. It's not really "Hello. I'm Che Guevara for Goldman Sachs. You know, it's better to live on your interest than die on your fees." Dude was a Sandwich Artist less than ten years ago and is now part of a multi-million USD worldwide ad campaign. I think that I'm seeing a crossing guard of sorts in this Blackberry advertisement, although it might be hard to see it because his feet and arms are moving around a lot and he's not wearing a vest you can see from Poughkeepsie.
(as an adjoinder: would it really be better if kid-movers were co-opted in Money ad camps? Do they deserve it more? Can a crossing guard sell out?)
Skit: a Musician is liked by early fans. Musician gets big and makes music for a wider audience, which turns off the early-adopters. Wash, Rinse, Yawn GIF. Don't get caught in the tumble-dry. It's not always about the Music Class War.
If I was talented enough to compose music that some of you liked tomorrow and then, at some later date, after much hustling, ass sweat, and the firing of all my four chambers, I began to reach a wider audience, I know there'd be some et-tuing up in here. QED.
All I know is that dude had the best eBay listing descriptions ever. They were short stories about how he had to slay some two-headed dragon and fight off the princess' evil stepfather before he could manage to swipe the family jewels from inside the giant diamond encrusted clam shell beneath which he found this ultra rare secret squirrel jawn with a crazy break in VG+++ condition.
All I know is that dude had the best eBay listing descriptions ever. They were short stories about how he had to slay some two-headed dragon and fight off the princess' evil stepfather before he could manage to swipe the family jewels from inside the giant diamond encrusted clam shell beneath which he found this ultra rare secret squirrel jawn with a crazy break in VG+++ condition.
Yeah! He also had a similarly bizzare set sale site at one stage i think.
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I vote for the nobodies putting in their two cents like it means something.
Like you and I.
don't be so hard on yourself
my girl thinks you're one of the most astute fashion bloggers on the strut
Hooray for diplo, I say.
lol
Just noticed your location Cos --
proud to say that my close friend is now the official owner of www.fayban.com
I fail to understand what gives you the right to judge how another person chooses to make a living.
And I would hardly call the downward trends of the music industry "the whims of the external world." More like, "Gosh it's been raining quite awhile now, I think I'll get myself a raincoat."
How are athletes not sell-outs for endorsing razor blades and Japanese pop?
It's Diplo, not Ian MacKaye.
I haven't judged anyone in this thread so hold your horses. (And the logical end point of the type of individualism you seem to promote is "what gives you the right to judge how a kiddie porn dealer chooses to make his living"-- but I digress.)
I only addressed the nonsense of "selling out" not existing in today's world. If musician X takes an anti-capitalist stance in his music, and then turns around and signs an endorsement deal with corporation X, how is that not sell out, and what the hell does "the current state of the music industry" have to do with the issue?
I agree with this....but I am not sure if it would make it so I wouldn't buy X's records if I loved the music still.
:/
Also, people are allowed change positions for reasons other than being a hypocrite. So one person's sell-out is another person's human being.
^^^
Post of the year.
Fair points.
All I'm saying is that these days, the market for physical products is clearly shrinking. Touring is arguably headed in the same direction. At the very least, the market for live shows is becoming more clustured. Artists need to seek out different sources of income to succeed.
As for your definition of selling out, I just don't think it's that cut and dry. Being anti-capitalist and having to operate within a capitalist society aren't mutually exclusive. Additionally, I don't think most of these artists are claiming to be anti-capitalist in the first place.
Everybody has to make a living. I don't see how this is much different than Timmy, who also dislikes capitalism, having to work in the call center trying to talk people into upgrading their cable package. People have to compromise their values to a degree to get by.
Those dodging pubic hairs in their keyboards while manifesting their vacuum-tite esoterica might need be reminded that their revolution(s) will not be fought by those with expanding bottoms and well-filed Cheeto dust.
Dude is in shape. Man is reaching and button-pushing and is ostensibly not a piece of shit and is kind-of perfect for what he is pitching. It's not really "Hello. I'm Che Guevara for Goldman Sachs. You know, it's better to live on your interest than die on your fees." Dude was a Sandwich Artist less than ten years ago and is now part of a multi-million USD worldwide ad campaign. I think that I'm seeing a crossing guard of sorts in this Blackberry advertisement, although it might be hard to see it because his feet and arms are moving around a lot and he's not wearing a vest you can see from Poughkeepsie.
(as an adjoinder: would it really be better if kid-movers were co-opted in Money ad camps? Do they deserve it more? Can a crossing guard sell out?)
Skit: a Musician is liked by early fans. Musician gets big and makes music for a wider audience, which turns off the early-adopters. Wash, Rinse, Yawn GIF. Don't get caught in the tumble-dry. It's not always about the Music Class War.
If I was talented enough to compose music that some of you liked tomorrow and then, at some later date, after much hustling, ass sweat, and the firing of all my four chambers, I began to reach a wider audience, I know there'd be some et-tuing up in here. QED.
And I can't even say that I'm a fan.
< /thread >
According to Dres 'pon the Twitter, since this commercial began running in Japan, downloads of The Choice Is Yours have topped 700,000.
Oddly enough, I was talking about the Diplo commercial with some friends/friends of friends over the weekend. One of them, a graphic designer whose work some of you may well have seen, said to me that one of the saddest days of his life was the day he decided to sell out, only to discover that nobody wanted to buy.
PS Stop hatin, start creatin or stfu.
Plaese no more fake james poasts. Thank you.
Maybe not your money, but what about every Blackberry that is sold more due to this commercial and is used for sniping up rare latin heat on ebay?
Yeah! He also had a similarly bizzare set sale site at one stage i think.
For the record, my dude talks like this in real life. Complete with animated gifs fully acted out.
Diplo has made some good stuff. This commercial is not good.