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Jonny_Paycheck
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Two chargebacks in one week.Any of you pro-sellers mandate Express/Priority shipping?I mandate insurance, which at least covers my ass in the end... but it burns me up that these dudes are getting free records.Advice?
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here is the question i have. you register something. is the buyer still in the clear? or even you provide a registered number can they do a chargeback?
It boggles my mind how these mf'ers get away with chargebacks like they do.
They give France a bad naaaame.
At least using Endicia, I'm covered by the insurance... but I'm not gonna lie shit has me tight right now!
The bad part is that there's nothing you can do about it but suffer in silence. I would recommend to do something you guys din't usually do which is to send a valid phone number and have a a convo. Usually, they're scared to do so and won't try to bid and chargeback. This is not a second nature or a mistake, this is a scam. French bidders spend coutless hours doing the same thing to a load of people until they get banned. They usually go too far and sometimes get fined or sued. I know a dude who spent 8 months in the pen for selling a SP1200 that he never had. He cashed the money and went ghost. Woooof. Maybe it's in the genes, I don't know. IT just so happen that french ebayers are not to be trusted! Same goes for the french postal system!
I'm tired with this subject..
Why you just don't stop to selling shit? Bad taste 80's funk for days? Then french bidders will disappear.
Brilliant reasoning: It is Johnnys fault that French bidders don't pay him after he, the record store owner, sells a record and ships the record to them: he just should not have sold it in the first place.
Johnny: Let this be a lesson.
I think you're pretty much spot on there NZ.
A dude of Johhny's calibre should get some intern to do spreadsheet analysis on sales to La France. If the percentage of cash lost to scammers is of a painful enough level, Johnny got to stop accepting 80s slap bass modern boogie vogueing heaters in trade in the shop.
Set up reciprocal deals in Europe. Ship all your fiended-by-the-French to shops in London, Germany or elsewhere in Europe where the Republique's finest visit frequently. In return take on tons of Depeche Mode, Flock of Seagulls and other stuff that rides in the US but gets the finger from righteous euromens.
Everyone's a winner.
BTW NZ
Your sycophancy:
About my reasoning:
- first it's a shame you don't understand humor/2nd degree in my post
- second this reasoning is as stupid as posting a 1000th thread about what was discuss a thousand times here
- third if you don't want to have problem with gangsters you don't sell drugs
I have nothing against French people. I am seriously just trying to understand a bit better what the problem is - it seems to me that posters from France are saying that it's both (the postal system sucks, and a lot of buyers are dishonest).
And that the music/scene breeds these kinds of buyers.
If that's not what you're saying, please correct me.
Yeah I know, just fed up with the agressivity and "don't sell anything to France" type of clever quote.
I honestly think this is 90% a problem of modern soul/80s funk buyers in France. These guys used to steal records in the records fair in the 90s, now they adapted themselves to the internet. If it was the post system I would have problem myself, as I send more than 50 packages every monthes. The cases I had in 4/5 years of pro-selling can be counted on two hands maximum. Same on the opposite: I received 99% of my packages coming from worldwide.
French guys from SS stop saying it's a post problem, this is hypocrisy.
I will not follow you on this way. But speaking of names, why US sellers (at least those who're on SS) don't make a names/adresses data-base to identify these stealers? I'm quiet sure this is always the 4 or 5 same guys. From Paris that modern soul scene looks totally microscopic and ol'fashion: no clubs, no parties..and always the same 3 or 4 guys in records fairs that are now well known and looked after, from Paris to Utrecht.
fwiw, I've only ever shipped ONE thing to France and it never made it. It was a DVD.
It is a strange phenomenon indeed...but to blame it on a country is unfair and it definitely limits you as a seller (unless you are selling blistering psych nuggets, which in my experience is not as popular with the french bidders).
Google the names of the people who do the chargebacks too , sometimes you can get hints about who they are (possible DJ aliases, Facebook pages) and you can possibly get more info about whether they seem legit or whether they are