BIG pulled Faith Evans before he even had rap dough.
yeah that one boggled my mind.
he is a big walleyed lookin muhfucka
Everyone I've ever met who knew the dude said he had maaaaaaad game with the ladies. Same with Too Short...
Game will make a woman forget/ignore that you are a "big walleyed" (or, in Short's case, bucktoofed) "lookin muhfucka".
I read an interview with Primo about the day they recorded "Unbelievable," and he said that when he went in to the lounge at D&D there was BIG ass nekkid and two chicks was going down on him. I thought that shit was hilarious.
Everyone I've ever met who knew the dude said he had maaaaaaad game with the ladies. Same with Too Short...
Game will make a woman forget/ignore that you are a "big walleyed" (or, in Short's case, bucktoofed) "lookin muhfucka".
EDIT: EXCUSE THE REPEAT STORY
True.
I remember the story recalled by Primo where him & BIG were recording "Unbelievable" at D&D (in other words, when Biggie was still a nobody). At one point Preem goes looking for Big and finds him in some room getting served by two chicks! Big was apparently like, "You want some of this?"
Game, bra.
Re: Big L...
His verse on "Day One" ranks as my favorte all time.
I had the fortune to play him some beats at my apt. on the West Side around '94/'95.
He was labelmates with my roomate (Jamalski) and at one point L, 8 Off, Sadat X and Jamal all started this chiper that I wish I had the foresight to record.
He ended up wanting to use a beat I had that flipped Anita Baker's "Been So Long".
He sounded PERFECT over that shit. Of course, his people at Columbia at the time who shall remain nameless, weren't trying to pay for no Anita Baker sample. And that was that.
Wouldn't have mattered anyway since he was dropped only about a month later.
I did reach out to him a couple weeks before he passed and he agreed to get on a record I was doing.
It would've been him and AG. Then I got the call that he had been killed.
I came to NY (from Oakland) the next week and recorded AG's part. You could tell dude was defeated.
I ended up having my friend from the Bay, Genessee, do the part Big L was originally supposed to do.
It's hard to say, really. Lamont Coleman was definitely one of those people taken way too soon.
Way before they had a chance to show the world what he was capable of.
I really do feel he was on the verge though.
There's obviosly not the wealth of material from him ala Tupac, but IMO the best stiff Big L did were always the odd freestlyes. That's where he shined most.
All I can say is that I liked Big L a lot. He was really creative and could just flow on and on. He's freestyles are great. They only reason i can think that you might see him "over hyped" is because he died young. When your frist record is RIP ever one is going to go on and on about how great you WOULD HAVE BEEN. Who knows what his future would have been, but he ripped it while he was here.
I think it also is the feeling that he had so much more to offer. It felt like just the beginning for someone so exciting and dynamic.
when he rhymed you oculdn't help but listen. Incredibly word play, amazing delivery and a distinct voice to boot.
^^^this is how I see it. see also: O.C. & Big L - Dangerous
when Big L starts rapping everything just kind of stops because he's got such charisma. I think he'd be among the biggest (if not the biggest) right now because his style certainly had mad commercial appeal and its very catchy.
'A smooth kid that'll run up in your baby mother'
Make sure my mic is loud and my production is tight Better watch me round your girl if you ain't f**king her right You damn playa haters never want to see me blow Flamboyant Entertainment CEO Yo the spotlight is mine, it ain't his no more When Lee come home, niggas can't live no more And ... I'm straight, keep a Harlem World mindstate I never lounge where you find Jake Suprise niggas like a blind date, L rhyme great And I'm a increase the crime rate for old time's sake Run with me and I'm a make you a star When me and my crew hit the clubs, we go straight to the bar Leave 'em empty, I cruise through Harlem in an M3 Never pay for parties, say my name and I'm in free I'm on some 100-G car shit, superstar shit Selling niggas that wet shit right out the jar shit I'm dumb hot, I'll wreck you and your young flock Keep the gun cock, represent one block 139 nigga, the Danger Zone We quick to put a bullet in a stranger's dome I'm known to kick a rough rhyme and rock much shine Yo I'm out, I done took up enough time
...
Popping the chrome, always dropping a poem I can write it or recite it off the top of the dome However you want it is how I'm gonna give it to you, Big L style They brought it back to the streets cause that shit sell now So pal back up a bit, give me elbow space I represent Harlem World, not Melrose Place So I'm a lace the jewels up with nice brigettes Flamboyent is the label that writes the checks ...
BIG pulled Faith Evans before he even had rap dough.
yeah that one boggled my mind.
he is a big walleyed lookin muhfucka
Everyone I've ever met who knew the dude said he had maaaaaaad game with the ladies. Same with Too Short...
Game will make a woman forget/ignore that you are a "big walleyed" (or, in Short's case, bucktoofed) "lookin muhfucka".
I read an interview with Primo about the day they recorded "Unbelievable," and he said that when he went in to the lounge at D&D there was BIG ass nekkid and two chicks was going down on him. I thought that shit was hilarious.
Haha...and Primo was like "oh shit" and started to leave and BIG told him to stay and chill and get everything ready. Kinda awkward.
I read an interview with Primo about the day they recorded "Unbelievable," and he said that when he went in to the lounge at D&D there was BIG ass nekkid and two chicks was going down on him. I thought that shit was hilarious.
Big L was like the combination of all the good parts of Kool G Rap and all of the good parts of Lord Finesse (except slightly more clever/less cheesy than Finesse). Now, I'm not convinced he would've ever gone platinum or anything, but lyrically, he was hilarious and, at times, insightful. And, he had a very capable flow.
I always found his overblown comedic misogyny to be so dope. I don't mean to get uber-nerdy and project a bunch of shit on the dude, but part of what I liked so much about the dude was that you didn't really believe him when he said overtly misogynistic shit like "Then if I got AIDS, then every bitch got it." It just sort've felt like some reactionary way of dealing with getting dissed by broads or something like that. Like a dude dealing with pain through humor or insecure boasting or something--something we all do, but not nearly as funny as the boy.
I dunno. I'm being melodramatic about it, but there was something deeply human about his really dark humor.
Anyway, I've always said he's the dead rapper I miss the most, but mostly (and this might sound obvious) because his music is just so enjoyable. Which is to say that I don't know if I would call his music "important" rap music and, like I said, I don't know if he was set to blow like people are suggesting he would've, but the gist of it is that he made some damn good rap music that I really really liked.
Anyway, I've always said he's the dead rapper I miss the most, but mostly (and this might sound obvious) because his music is just so enjoyable. Which is to say that I don't know if I would call his music "important" rap music and, like I said, I don't know if he was set to blow like people are suggesting he would've, but the gist of it is that he made some damn good rap music that I really really liked.
BIG L probably would've had to water his content down in order to go platinum. Check pre-DR.DRE. SLIM SHADY and notice the difference. "...H..E...Double hockey sticks...." wouldnt pass on the radio.
Big L was the fucking man..i never get tired of hearing dude..
that stretch and bobbito verse/freestyle(written).."i was fucking chicks in the ass when I was six and half" or some shit like that. i loved dudes shit.
Anyone have that freestyle with Big L and Jay-Z together? L definately outshined Jay on that night. He was taken away too early, I can't help but wonder what he'd be today if he were still alive.
same here...specially since he was skinny like i am ,and he had the nerves to call himself Big. He was a helluvadude. I'm still stuck on "The Enemy" verse...
"Peace to DITC, Show & AG, Fat J.O.E., Diamond D, Lord Finesse and me."
That line in Day One kills it for me.
That whole verse is fuckin' muderous.
I went from standing on the corner selling cocaine To ripping shows live on stage, the hoes yelling my name To be precise Ripping mics Is the light of my life You frontin' like you trife And never pulled a heist in your life The price of my ice is sky high I'm a fly guy That's every thug's dream I really love cream It's in my bloodstream You mad cuz I got more chicks than you More bricks than you More nines with extra clips than you Where I live it ain't a nice town You can't walk around iced down Some clown's probably getting stuck right now Peace to DITC Show and AG Fat J-O-E Diamond D Lord Finesse and me I'm from the east coast, this is how we roll in New York A buncha rowdy n*ggas holding the fort Jackin' creeps Packin' heat These Harlem streets is for keeps Much love to all my peeps who got covered with sheets
"Peace to DITC, Show & AG, Fat J.O.E., Diamond D, Lord Finesse and me."
That line in Day One kills it for me.
That whole verse is fuckin' muderous.
I went from standing on the corner selling cocaine To ripping shows live on stage, the hoes yelling my name To be precise Ripping mics Is the light of my life You frontin' like you trife And never pulled a heist in your life The price of my ice is sky high I'm a fly guy That's every thug's dream I really love cream It's in my bloodstream You mad cuz I got more chicks than you More bricks than you More nines with extra clips than you Where I live it ain't a nice town You can't walk around iced down Some clown's probably getting stuck right now Peace to DITC Show and AG Fat J-O-E Diamond D Lord Finesse and me I'm from the east coast, this is how we roll in New York A buncha rowdy n*ggas holding the fort Jackin' creeps Packin' heat These Harlem streets is for keeps Much love to all my peeps who got covered with sheets
I liked him from the very first time i heard him on "Represent"
Verse One: Big L
Yo, on the mic is Big L, that brother who kicks flavs, God. Known for sendin' garbage MCs to the graveyard. I pack a gat, not a slingshot; step to this and get an ass-whoopin' like Rodney King got. Or get beat to your death like Cochise, my laws is no peace, fuck the police. MCs get braggin' about cash they collect, but them chumps is like Ray Charles, cuz they ain't seen no money yet. Trash rappers I tax and spark, I be wettin' niggas up like water rides at Action Park. A nigga stuck me, and that ain't funny son, so I got money gun, they wet him and his honey bun. Cuz phony faggots I froze, it's a fact, I flip fast on foes with fabulous fantastic flows. L is the rebel type, I'm rough as a metal pipe, fuck a Benz, cuz I could pull skins on a pedal-bike. Props, I got the most, no MC comes close,coast-to-coast, shows I host, foes I roast, adios, I'm ghost...
I first heard 'Devil's Son' on the radio years and years ago. I believe it was Westwood playing it weekly, but as there was no radio version I'm pretty sure the cusses were backspinned out or something. Anyway, EVERY Saturday after the friday radio session, I'd go back to the same old stores in London and ask them again and again, 'Yo... have you got the Big L 12"? And every week was the same answer, 'Nope - it's not coming out'.
It was doing my head in, because I *had* to own this record: one of my favourite Showbiz productions ever and Big L's energy-packed verses had me hitting rewind on the tapes I'd recorded.
I didn't cop the official promo until maybe 1997 or so, making-do with the bootleg that I'd managed to get.
In 2001 I interviewed Finesse and we talked a lot about Big L. Finesse was saying that out of all the people he knew, he thought L was going to be 'the one' to really make an impact. Columbia pulled the official release of 'Devil's Son' as they felt there were too many 'horrorcore' groups around at the time (I'm guessing Gravediggaz etc.) and the record would have got lost in the flood.
Finesse said that the first time he heard 'Devil's Son' was when they were in Showbiz's car and it was on a tape that they'd been working on - the original lyrics were slightly different: things like "I'm rollin' with Satan, fuck Jesus Christ" instead of the "not Jesus Christ" line... And everyone in the car lost it: 'You can't say that!'
After the first album dropped, that was probably one of my most-played things ever. Too many great lines in that record... "Once a brother broke into my house - and I robbed him..." (Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous)... "They wanna know why I'm so fly/a girl asked me for a ring and I put around her whole eye" (No Endz, No Skinz)...
I could go on and on. And, maybe controversially, I think those beats on the first LP are pretty incredible all the way through.
I share the same sentiment regarding Big L. Lyrically, I think he was mediocre at best. But I was also one the ones who thought just about everybody in DITC was overrated as lyricists. I mean Diamond D, AG, Fat Joe, and especially Lord Finesse were all mediocre, predictable rappers. The reason for the hype around Big L is probably because he got killed.
He was an underground gem way before he passed. Out of all the DITC cats L was far from mediocre at best.
I share the same sentiment regarding Big L. Lyrically, I think he was mediocre at best. But I was also one the ones who thought just about everybody in DITC was overrated as lyricists. I mean Diamond D, AG, Fat Joe, and especially Lord Finesse were all mediocre, predictable rappers. The reason for the hype around Big L is probably because he got killed. ...you are mediocre my friend, Big L was a supremely gifted MC with a great sense of humour and an ill flow.
Ok, well I wanted to bring this up because it has been on my mind for quite some time. I like(d) Big L, I think his rhymes were cool and his overall music was decent - but I really don't hear/see how "great" this guy really was? Many people hype him up like dude had ill flows for days - but seriously I don't get it. I've heard a lot of his music but I get the feeling people put him in a higher category than what he really deserves? I'm not trying to be disrepectful but just curious as to all the talk. His tracks Ebonics and Flambouyant were cool, and I liked him most on the Showbiz & AZ posse cut "Represent". I guess what I'm getting at is why the hypeness? Also, was he bigger in NY and the east coast and I just don't get it because of geographical distance (I'm on the west)? I don't know, I think I just like Finesse and AG when it comes to the rhymes in DITC..................................................
DJ Cire
I share the same sentiment regarding Big L. Lyrically, I think he was mediocre at best. But I was also one the ones who thought just about everybody in DITC was overrated as lyricists. I mean Diamond D, AG, Fat Joe, and especially Lord Finesse were all mediocre, predictable rappers. The reason for the hype around Big L is probably because he got killed.
I would agree with you on Diamond D, Fat Joe, and Showbiz... AG was nasty IMO... but I think he got better over time... Finesse definitely got worse as time went on... but Big L was DEFINITELY nasty... did you hear his freestyles or are you basing this on his legitimate releases? I don't even think most of his records did him justice.
Did someone post the Big L/Jay Z session? If not plaese to post...
Even though I never got into Big L's 2 albums much I can say the dude was definetly dope as fuck on the mic
Would of he blown-the-fuck-up? I don't know, I think the time where he would would be a time where he would of eventually gotten outshined by 50, Snoop and Jay-Z (I don't know if BIG L could make as catchy-pop sounding tracks like them dudes). But he would definetly still have a career bubblin' hopefully.
To make it go full circle, I clearly remember the day when KMEL played "Holding it Down" at like rush hour. They announced it and all of that. I totally was thinking "Damn, them dudes at Rawkus TOTALLY PAYED/HUSTLED to get that on the air". A hardcore New York-centric rap record on KMEL (post early-mid 90's)? Incredible. That herb Fran was like "yeah yeah son, new BIG L!".
Yes, AG did get better as an emcee. I noticed it on the Full Scale EP, his flow and just cadence got really harder. He's got an album coming out that my man did with him. It's got production from like Dilla, Dave West and I think Jake One as well. Some of it's very point
Paul Nice:
Man, I still bump that "definition of nice" record! It just recently dawned on me that you flipped that Barry White record.
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Everyone I've ever met who knew the dude said he had maaaaaaad game with the ladies. Same with Too Short...
Game will make a woman forget/ignore that you are a "big walleyed" (or, in Short's case, bucktoofed) "lookin muhfucka".
I read an interview with Primo about the day they recorded "Unbelievable," and he said that when he went in to the lounge at D&D there was BIG ass nekkid and two chicks was going down on him. I thought that shit was hilarious.
That line in Day One kills it for me.
co-sign
EDIT: EXCUSE THE REPEAT STORY
True.
I remember the story recalled by Primo where him & BIG were recording "Unbelievable" at D&D (in other words, when Biggie was still a nobody). At one point Preem goes looking for Big and finds him in some room getting served by two chicks! Big was apparently like, "You want some of this?"
Game, bra.
Re: Big L...
His verse on "Day One" ranks as my favorte all time.
I had the fortune to play him some beats at my apt. on the West Side around '94/'95.
He was labelmates with my roomate (Jamalski) and at one point L, 8 Off, Sadat X and Jamal all started this chiper that I wish I had the foresight to record.
He ended up wanting to use a beat I had that flipped Anita Baker's "Been So Long".
He sounded PERFECT over that shit. Of course, his people at Columbia at the time who shall remain nameless, weren't trying to pay for no Anita Baker sample. And that was that.
Wouldn't have mattered anyway since he was dropped only about a month later.
I did reach out to him a couple weeks before he passed and he agreed to get on a record I was doing.
It would've been him and AG. Then I got the call that he had been killed.
I came to NY (from Oakland) the next week and recorded AG's part. You could tell dude was defeated.
I ended up having my friend from the Bay, Genessee, do the part Big L was originally supposed to do.
It's hard to say, really. Lamont Coleman was definitely one of those people taken way too soon.
Way before they had a chance to show the world what he was capable of.
I really do feel he was on the verge though.
There's obviosly not the wealth of material from him ala Tupac, but IMO the best stiff Big L did were always the odd freestlyes. That's where he shined most.
Um, no offense, but I think Faith has come a loooong way in terms of physical appearance since her Biggie days.
^^^this is how I see it.
see also: O.C. & Big L - Dangerous
when Big L starts rapping everything just kind of stops because he's got such charisma.
I think he'd be among the biggest (if not the biggest) right now because his style certainly had mad commercial appeal and its very catchy.
'A smooth kid that'll run up in your baby mother'
Make sure my mic is loud and my production is tight
Better watch me round your girl if you ain't f**king her right
You damn playa haters never want to see me blow
Flamboyant Entertainment CEO
Yo the spotlight is mine, it ain't his no more
When Lee come home, niggas can't live no more
And ... I'm straight, keep a Harlem World mindstate
I never lounge where you find Jake
Suprise niggas like a blind date, L rhyme great
And I'm a increase the crime rate for old time's sake
Run with me and I'm a make you a star
When me and my crew hit the clubs, we go straight to the bar
Leave 'em empty, I cruise through Harlem in an M3
Never pay for parties, say my name and I'm in free
I'm on some 100-G car shit, superstar shit
Selling niggas that wet shit right out the jar shit
I'm dumb hot, I'll wreck you and your young flock
Keep the gun cock, represent one block
139 nigga, the Danger Zone
We quick to put a bullet in a stranger's dome
I'm known to kick a rough rhyme and rock much shine
Yo I'm out, I done took up enough time
...
Popping the chrome, always dropping a poem
I can write it or recite it off the top of the dome
However you want it is how I'm gonna give it to you, Big L style
They brought it back to the streets cause that shit sell now
So pal back up a bit, give me elbow space
I represent Harlem World, not Melrose Place
So I'm a lace the jewels up with nice brigettes
Flamboyent is the label that writes the checks
...
Haha...and Primo was like "oh shit" and started to leave and BIG told him to stay and chill and get everything ready. Kinda awkward.
what publication is this from (and when)?
i often wish biggie and i were best friends.
I always found his overblown comedic misogyny to be so dope. I don't mean to get uber-nerdy and project a bunch of shit on the dude, but part of what I liked so much about the dude was that you didn't really believe him when he said overtly misogynistic shit like "Then if I got AIDS, then every bitch got it." It just sort've felt like some reactionary way of dealing with getting dissed by broads or something like that. Like a dude dealing with pain through humor or insecure boasting or something--something we all do, but not nearly as funny as the boy.
I dunno. I'm being melodramatic about it, but there was something deeply human about his really dark humor.
Anyway, I've always said he's the dead rapper I miss the most, but mostly (and this might sound obvious) because his music is just so enjoyable. Which is to say that I don't know if I would call his music "important" rap music and, like I said, I don't know if he was set to blow like people are suggesting he would've, but the gist of it is that he made some damn good rap music that I really really liked.
I'd love to hear the dude on some Just Blaze.
-e
BIG L probably would've had to water his content down in order to go platinum. Check pre-DR.DRE. SLIM SHADY and notice the difference. "...H..E...Double hockey sticks...." wouldnt pass on the radio.
that stretch and bobbito verse/freestyle(written).."i was fucking chicks in the ass when I was six and half" or some shit like that. i loved dudes shit.
I heard Carla off of Cheers use that line first.
That whole verse is fuckin' muderous.
I went from standing on the corner selling cocaine
To ripping shows live on stage, the hoes yelling my name
To be precise
Ripping mics
Is the light of my life
You frontin' like you trife
And never pulled a heist in your life
The price of my ice is sky high
I'm a fly guy
That's every thug's dream
I really love cream
It's in my bloodstream
You mad cuz I got more chicks than you
More bricks than you
More nines with extra clips than you
Where I live it ain't a nice town
You can't walk around iced down
Some clown's probably getting stuck right now
Peace to DITC
Show and AG
Fat J-O-E
Diamond D
Lord Finesse and me
I'm from the east coast, this is how we roll in New York
A buncha rowdy n*ggas holding the fort
Jackin' creeps
Packin' heat
These Harlem streets is for keeps
Much love to all my peeps who got covered with sheets
YESSSSSSSS! thats my shit!
Verse One: Big L
Yo, on the mic is Big L, that brother who kicks flavs, God.
Known for sendin' garbage MCs to the graveyard.
I pack a gat, not a slingshot;
step to this and get an ass-whoopin' like Rodney King got.
Or get beat to your death like Cochise,
my laws is no peace, fuck the police.
MCs get braggin' about cash they collect,
but them chumps is like Ray Charles,
cuz they ain't seen no money yet.
Trash rappers I tax and spark,
I be wettin' niggas up like water rides at Action Park.
A nigga stuck me, and that ain't funny son,
so I got money gun, they wet him and his honey bun.
Cuz phony faggots I froze, it's a fact,
I flip fast on foes with fabulous fantastic flows.
L is the rebel type, I'm rough as a metal pipe,
fuck a Benz, cuz I could pull skins on a pedal-bike.
Props, I got the most, no MC comes close,coast-to-coast,
shows I host, foes I roast, adios, I'm ghost...
I first heard 'Devil's Son' on the radio years and years ago. I believe it was Westwood playing it weekly, but as there was no radio version I'm pretty sure the cusses were backspinned out or something. Anyway, EVERY Saturday after the friday radio session, I'd go back to the same old stores in London and ask them again and again, 'Yo... have you got the Big L 12"? And every week was the same answer, 'Nope - it's not coming out'.
It was doing my head in, because I *had* to own this record: one of my favourite Showbiz productions ever and Big L's energy-packed verses had me hitting rewind on the tapes I'd recorded.
I didn't cop the official promo until maybe 1997 or so, making-do with the bootleg that I'd managed to get.
In 2001 I interviewed Finesse and we talked a lot about Big L. Finesse was saying that out of all the people he knew, he thought L was going to be 'the one' to really make an impact. Columbia pulled the official release of 'Devil's Son' as they felt there were too many 'horrorcore' groups around at the time (I'm guessing Gravediggaz etc.) and the record would have got lost in the flood.
Finesse said that the first time he heard 'Devil's Son' was when they were in Showbiz's car and it was on a tape that they'd been working on - the original lyrics were slightly different: things like "I'm rollin' with Satan, fuck Jesus Christ" instead of the "not Jesus Christ" line... And everyone in the car lost it: 'You can't say that!'
After the first album dropped, that was probably one of my most-played things ever. Too many great lines in that record... "Once a brother broke into my house - and I robbed him..." (Lifestylez Ov Da Poor & Dangerous)... "They wanna know why I'm so fly/a girl asked me for a ring and I put around her whole eye" (No Endz, No Skinz)...
I could go on and on. And, maybe controversially, I think those beats on the first LP are pretty incredible all the way through.
R.I.P. Big L
"I'm breakin' in cribs with a crowbar/I wasn't poor - I was 'po'... I couldn't afford the 'o', 'r'..." ('Lifestyles Ov Da Poor & Dangerous')
He was an underground gem way before he passed. Out of all the DITC cats L was far from mediocre at best.
it's from pound magazine
I share the same sentiment regarding Big L. Lyrically, I think he was mediocre at best. But I was also one the ones who thought just about everybody in DITC was overrated as lyricists. I mean Diamond D, AG, Fat Joe, and especially Lord Finesse were all mediocre, predictable rappers. The reason for the hype around Big L is probably because he got killed.
...you are mediocre my friend, Big L was a supremely gifted MC with a great sense of humour and an ill flow.
RD
I would agree with you on Diamond D, Fat Joe, and Showbiz... AG was nasty IMO... but I think he got better over time... Finesse definitely got worse as time went on... but Big L was DEFINITELY nasty... did you hear his freestyles or are you basing this on his legitimate releases? I don't even think most of his records did him justice.
Did someone post the Big L/Jay Z session? If not plaese to post...
As somebody who really enjoyed his music from the off I would say yes after Big L died he did suddenly gain a legion of fans.
Even though I never got into Big L's 2 albums much I can say the dude was definetly dope as fuck on the mic
Would of he blown-the-fuck-up? I don't know, I think the time where he would would be a time where he would of eventually gotten outshined by 50, Snoop and Jay-Z (I don't know if BIG L could make as catchy-pop sounding tracks like them dudes). But he would definetly still have a career bubblin' hopefully.
To make it go full circle, I clearly remember the day when KMEL played "Holding it Down" at like rush hour. They announced it and all of that. I totally was thinking "Damn, them dudes at Rawkus TOTALLY PAYED/HUSTLED to get that on the air". A hardcore New York-centric rap record on KMEL (post early-mid 90's)? Incredible. That herb Fran was like "yeah yeah son, new BIG L!".
Yes, AG did get better as an emcee. I noticed it on the Full Scale EP, his flow and just cadence got really harder. He's got an album coming out that my man did with him. It's got production from like Dilla, Dave West and I think Jake One as well. Some of it's very point
Paul Nice:
Man, I still bump that "definition of nice" record! It just recently dawned on me that you flipped that Barry White record.