Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21My parents pre-baby boomer generation was called the Silent Generation for a variety of reasons. This was the generation that really realized the prototypical "American Dream" of home and auto ownership. b, 21b, 21Their goal was to make sure their children had all the things they didn't like job opportunities and a college education. They spoiled the heck out of their kids, the Baby Boomers, and the very conservative lifestyle the Silent Generation lived was rebelled against by the spoiled Baby Boomers.b, 21b, 21baby Boomers were the first generation that didn't have to work their ass off...and the quality of their work went down the tubes as well. I'd rather buy a house built in the 40's than in the 70's or 80's, that's for sure.b, 21b, 21And the Baby Boomers raised two generations (X&Y) of folks who have a sense of entitlement that makes their grandparents cringe. b, 21b, 21I'm not about to defend the Baby Boom generation but other than being more liberal and politically correct I really don't see the X&Y Generations bringing anything to the table that will turn this mess around.b, 21b, 21Enlighten me if I'm blind to it. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21If your parents are like mine, they were born in the mid '20s suffered through the depression and fought in WWII. b, 21b, 21They were the first (and last?) generation to benefit from:b, 21the 40 h, week. b, 21The weekend. (When I was a kid all stores were closed on Sundays and most on Sat.)b, 21Paid vacation.b, 21b, 21 b, 21If they were white they benefited from the GI Bill:b, 21Low cost home loansb, 21College tuitionb, 21b, 21So they came from a strong tradition of hard work born of the depression (and puritanism) but benefited from labor reform, unions, post war boom and GI Bill. b, 21b, 21Thus, as you say, giving us more than any generation had been given before. b, 21b, 21Thus because of their prosperity, and new anti-child labor laws, we were the first teenagers. b, 21b, 21Our day is done, a new day has dawned. Get Off My Lawn!
I really dont see this President as a REAL cut-off point for an entire generation. b, 21b, 21Shit bleeds into one another. There are some cats out there who still hang on to old ideals.b, 21b, 21"Generation X & Y" has yet to create the music our folks did...IMO.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I really dont see this President as a REAL cut-off point for an entire generation. b, 21b, 21Shit bleeds into one another. There are some cats out there who still hang on to old ideals.b, 21b, 21"Generation X & Y" has yet to create the music our folks did...IMO. b, 21b, 21h, 21
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I really dont see this President as a REAL cut-off point for an entire generation. b, 21b, 21Shit bleeds into one another. There are some cats out there who still hang on to old ideals.b, 21b, 21"Generation X & Y" has yet to create the music our folks did...IMO. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21I'd like to know what non-Baby Boomers the X&Y generations look to as leaders, innovators and people who will forge their way through the next 25 years??
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21My parents pre-baby boomer generation was called the Silent Generation for a variety of reasons. This was the generation that really realized the prototypical "American Dream" of home and auto ownership. b, 21b, 21Their goal was to make sure their children had all the things they didn't like job opportunities and a college education. They spoiled the heck out of their kids, the Baby Boomers, and the very conservative lifestyle the Silent Generation lived was rebelled against by the spoiled Baby Boomers.b, 21b, 21baby Boomers were the first generation that didn't have to work their ass off...and the quality of their work went down the tubes as well. I'd rather buy a house built in the 40's than in the 70's or 80's, that's for sure.b, 21b, 21And the Baby Boomers raised two generations (X&Y) of folks who have a sense of entitlement that makes their grandparents cringe. b, 21b, 21I'm not about to defend the Baby Boom generation but other than being more liberal and politically correct I really don't see the X&Y Generations bringing anything to the table that will turn this mess around.b, 21b, 21Enlighten me if I'm blind to it. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21If your parents are like mine, they were born in the mid '20s suffered through the depression and fought in WWII. b, 21b, 21They were the first (and last?) generation to benefit from:b, 21the 40 h, week. b, 21The weekend. (When I was a kid all stores were closed on Sundays and most on Sat.)b, 21Paid vacation.b, 21b, 21 b, 21If they were white they benefited from the GI Bill:b, 21Low cost home loansb, 21College tuitionb, 21b, 21So they came from a strong tradition of hard work born of the depression (and puritanism) but benefited from labor reform, unions, post war boom and GI Bill. b, 21b, 21Thus, as you say, giving us more than any generation had been given before. b, 21b, 21Thus because of their prosperity, and new anti-child labor laws, we were the first teenagers. b, 21b, 21Our day is done, a new day has dawned. Get Off My Lawn! b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21My parents are younger than yours.....blue collar, calloused handed folks who worked hard and gave me nothing more than the opportunity to not have to work quite as hard as they did.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I really dont see this President as a REAL cut-off point for an entire generation. b, 21b, 21Shit bleeds into one another. There are some cats out there who still hang on to old ideals.b, 21b, 21"Generation X & Y" has yet to create the music our folks did...IMO. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21I'd like to know what non-Baby Boomers the X&Y generations look to as leaders, innovators and people who will forge their way through the next 25 years?? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21 b, 21b, 21Corey Booker in Newark is the future,but the way the game changes at a faster rate than years before I cant call kids who are are gonna "lead" us.b, 21b, 21Jeff Canada is another cat who is really "doin-it."b, 21b, 21"Leaders" is still an semi-antiquated idea. Weve have this concept of hoping that another person is gonna sum up our fears,hopes,and ambitions..etc. Shit starts at home. Check the mirror,wipe your own ass, and put in work.
font color="green"1b, 21"Leaders" is still an semi-antiquated idea. Weve have this concept of hoping that another person is gonna sum up our fears,hopes,and ambitions..etc. Shit starts at home. Check the mirror,wipe your own ass, and put in work. !--color--1/font1b, 21b, 21I think where we went wrong b, 21is when we start looking for "leaders." b, 21You always fail, doing that. b, 21b, 21It's like around the middle of the seventies b, 21when people were looking for the new Elvis/Beatles b, 21that would sum up the decade, musically andb, 21culturally. b, 21b, 21Didn't happen. b, 21b, 21Or in the '80s/'90s b, 21when people started looking b, 21for a new Martin Luther King. b, 21Didn't happen. It wasn't Jesse Jackson, b, 21it wasn't Andrew Young, b, 21it wasn't Colin Powell, b, 21it wasn't Rev. Al Sharpton, b, 21it wasn't nobody. Obviously Obama b, 21is the next in line, b, 21but I try not to look at b, 21him as the new MLK. I see him b, 21more like the one and only BHO.b, 21b, 21Batmon seems to be on a kick aboutb, 21wiping and washing our own asses (see a recentb, 21post in an Obama thread that wound up inb, 21"Soulstrut Comedy Gold"). But heb, 21is definitely on point - I agree withb, 21that above statement.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I really dont see this President as a REAL cut-off point for an entire generation. b, 21b, 21Shit bleeds into one another. There are some cats out there who still hang on to old ideals.b, 21b, 21"Generation X & Y" has yet to create the music our folks did...IMO. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21I'd like to know what non-Baby Boomers the X&Y generations look to as leaders, innovators and people who will forge their way through the next 25 years?? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21 b, 21b, 21Corey Booker in Newark is the future,but the way the game changes at a faster rate than years before I cant call kids who are are gonna "lead" us.b, 21b, 21Jeff Canada is another cat who is really "doin-it."b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Canada's a Baby Boomer, tho.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I really dont see this President as a REAL cut-off point for an entire generation. b, 21b, 21Shit bleeds into one another. There are some cats out there who still hang on to old ideals.b, 21b, 21"Generation X & Y" has yet to create the music our folks did...IMO. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21I'd like to know what non-Baby Boomers the X&Y generations look to as leaders, innovators and people who will forge their way through the next 25 years?? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21 b, 21b, 21Corey Booker in Newark is the future,but the way the game changes at a faster rate than years before I cant call kids who are are gonna "lead" us.b, 21b, 21Jeff Canada is another cat who is really "doin-it."b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Canada's a Baby Boomer, tho. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Yup. And dude is old enuff to understand the struggle.b, 21b, 21Cats spend their time puttin their money on Lebron yet Old-ass Ray Allen,Kevin Garnett & Paul Pierce won the championship.b, 21b, 21The whole old vs young,generation y vs Baby Boomer,Republican vs Democrat,etc is wack.b, 21b, 21Brilliance can emerge from anywhere.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21I really dont see this President as a REAL cut-off point for an entire generation. b, 21b, 21Shit bleeds into one another. There are some cats out there who still hang on to old ideals.b, 21b, 21"Generation X & Y" has yet to create the music our folks did...IMO. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21I'd like to know what non-Baby Boomers the X&Y generations look to as leaders, innovators and people who will forge their way through the next 25 years?? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21 b, 21b, 21Corey Booker in Newark is the future,but the way the game changes at a faster rate than years before I cant call kids who are are gonna "lead" us.b, 21b, 21Jeff Canada is another cat who is really "doin-it."b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Canada's a Baby Boomer, tho. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Yup. And dude is old enuff to understand the struggle.b, 21b, 21Cats spend their time puttin their money on Lebron yet Old-ass Ray Allen,Kevin Garnett & Paul Pierce won the championship.b, 21b, 21The whole old vs young,generation y vs Baby Boomer,Republican vs Democrat,etc is wack.b, 21b, 21Brilliance can emerge from anywhere. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21No shit?b, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21It's like around the middle of the seventies b, 21when people were looking for the new Elvis/Beatles b, 21that would sum up the decade, musically andb, 21culturally. b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Certain music critics tried hard to place Springsteen into that position.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The feel im gettin from cats here is Obama's the mark of new ideas that are "free" of the Baby Boomer culture.b, 21b, 21You dont have an Obama w/out the Baby Boomer's success and failures.b, 21b, 21No Carter - No Reagan.b, 21b, 21No Blues - No Rock-N-Roll.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The feel im gettin from cats here is Obama's the mark of new ideas that are "free" of the Baby Boomer culture.b, 21b, 21You dont have an Obama w/out the Baby Boomer's success and failures.b, 21b, 21No Carter - No Reagan.b, 21b, 21No Blues - No Rock-N-Roll. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21First Sentence: If that's the case, I agree with you.b, 21b, 21Second sentence: I thought anomalous genius could rise from anywhere?
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The feel im gettin from cats here is Obama's the mark of new ideas that are "free" of the Baby Boomer culture.b, 21b, 21You dont have an Obama w/out the Baby Boomer's success and failures.b, 21b, 21No Carter - No Reagan.b, 21b, 21No Blues - No Rock-N-Roll. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21First Sentence: If that's the case, I agree with you.b, 21b, 21Second sentence: I thought anomalous genius could rise from anywhere? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I said Brilliance not Genius which is another LOADED word that cats use incorrectly.b, 21b, 21But lets get back to what u find wrong in my shit.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The feel im gettin from cats here is Obama's the mark of new ideas that are "free" of the Baby Boomer culture.b, 21b, 21You dont have an Obama w/out the Baby Boomer's success and failures.b, 21b, 21No Carter - No Reagan.b, 21b, 21No Blues - No Rock-N-Roll. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21No Flintstones - No Jetsons
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The feel im gettin from cats here is Obama's the mark of new ideas that are "free" of the Baby Boomer culture.b, 21b, 21You dont have an Obama w/out the Baby Boomer's success and failures.b, 21b, 21No Carter - No Reagan.b, 21b, 21No Blues - No Rock-N-Roll. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21No Flintstones - No Jetsons b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21X-act-Lee.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21It's like around the middle of the seventies b, 21when people were looking for the new Elvis/Beatles b, 21that would sum up the decade, musically andb, 21culturally. b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Certain music critics tried hard to place Springsteen into that position. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Stevie, Elton and Frampton too
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21It's like around the middle of the seventies b, 21when people were looking for the new Elvis/Beatles b, 21that would sum up the decade, musically andb, 21culturally. b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Certain music critics tried hard to place Springsteen into that position. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Stevie, Elton and Frampton too b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Around 1991 I went to a music industry promotional performance of some song writer named _____ Smith (I can't remember). All his press stuff said the New (or Next) Dylan. b, 21b, 21What about the Female Dylan. They through a bunch of those at us too.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21It's like around the middle of the seventies b, 21when people were looking for the new Elvis/Beatles b, 21that would sum up the decade, musically andb, 21culturally. b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21Certain music critics tried hard to place Springsteen into that position. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Stevie, Elton and Frampton too b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Around 1991 I went to a music industry promotional performance of some song writer named _____ Smith (I can't remember). All his press stuff said the New (or Next) Dylan. b, 21b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21And I'll bet you haven't heard of Mr. Smith since...
Even if the "Smith" in question had a respectable career, you would think that by '91 the writers and publicists would have been wise enough not to call anybody a "next Dylan" (kiss-of-death related)...thought that went out with Steve Forbert
In the seventies, definitely, but not so much now.b, 21b, 21You say that Mr. or Mrs. So & So is the Next Dylan these days, you'll hear a loud BEEEEEEEEEEEP from all those bullshit detectors going off.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21In the seventies, definitely, but not so much now.b, 21b, 21You say that Mr. or Mrs. So & So is the Next Dylan these days, you'll hear a loud BEEEEEEEEEEEP from all those bullshit detectors going off. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21As long as they warn me about who the next Davendra Banhart might be I'm cool.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The feel im gettin from cats here is Obama's the mark of new ideas that are "free" of the Baby Boomer culture.b, 21b, 21You dont have an Obama w/out the Baby Boomer's success and failures.b, 21b, 21No Carter - No Reagan.b, 21b, 21No Blues - No Rock-N-Roll. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21First Sentence: If that's the case, I agree with you.b, 21b, 21Second sentence: I thought anomalous genius could rise from anywhere? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I said Brilliance not Genius which is another LOADED word that cats use incorrectly.b, 21b, 21But lets get back to what u find wrong in my shit. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Whatever. Replace the words and my point still stands.
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21That's not what people are saying. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21The feel im gettin from cats here is Obama's the mark of new ideas that are "free" of the Baby Boomer culture.b, 21b, 21You dont have an Obama w/out the Baby Boomer's success and failures.b, 21b, 21No Carter - No Reagan.b, 21b, 21No Blues - No Rock-N-Roll. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21First Sentence: If that's the case, I agree with you.b, 21b, 21Second sentence: I thought anomalous genius could rise from anywhere? b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21I said Brilliance not Genius which is another LOADED word that cats use incorrectly.b, 21b, 21But lets get back to what u find wrong in my shit. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Whatever. Replace the words and my point still stands. b, 21b, 21h, 21b, 21b, 21Clarify please?
Quote:/font1h, 21b, 21b, 21Cats spend their time puttin their money on Lebron yet Old-ass Ray Allen,Kevin Garnett & Paul Pierce won the championship.b, 21b, 21The whole old vs young,generation y vs Baby Boomer,Republican vs Democrat,etc is wack.b, 21b, 21Brilliance can emerge from anywhere. b, 21b, 21h, 21
b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21I thought your point was that generational boundaries are meaningless because brilliance can arise from anywhere.b, 21b, 21Doesn't that render your cause-effect argument useless? It seems to me your point was not that Barack Obama is heir to post-boomer leadership, or that post-boomer figures will usher in the golden age, but that great leadership can rise from brilliant people no matter the time-period or generation.b, 21b, 21That's what your first quote above says.
We can talk about no blank without blank all day. We can say mostly good or mostly bad things about Boomers. Nonetheless, it is indisputable that Baby Boomers' time has come and gone. President Obama is happening around that, but it's not the only thing. And, of course, the next generation is not guaranteed to make things better, but we are entitled our chance to F*ck up. That requires a lot of Boomers to step the F*ck off. I'm not waiting until I'm 55 to run some shit. If I have to drive by in my Prius and blow Dennis Hopper's Viagra soaked ass off his Harley, so be it.
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