Keating 5 has been released and it will have a LOT more traction than the "terrorist" stuffb,121b,121McCain's next brilliant move is to hit Obama on.... CRIME. I think urban crime is waaaaay down the list of national priorities, as most major cities have seen a decline over the last decade. b,121b,121Obama has continued today to tick up in polls... most notably registering results of +10 and +12 in Virginia. Virginia!b,121b,121At a rally in Florida, according to the Washington Post, Palin started her stuff on Ayers and someone in the crowd yelled "KILL HIM!"b,121b,121wow.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Don't worry???you don't need a Weatherman to know the McCain campaign blows. Independents tend to react negatively to party infighting and attack ads. It reminds them of the bipartisan dichotomy they've opted out of.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Reading that, the original email certainly sounds embellished to a certain degree...but there is definitely some truth to it that isn't just mere propaganda. b,121b,121Also, where does google the almighty stand on Brzezinski being a part of Obama's campaign staff?
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b,121Damn Harvey, with all that practice, I would think you'd be better at the whole condescending contrarian thing. You couldn't find any lizard evidence not on scopes already?
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Please tell me that you are 12 years old.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121this is classic Harvey. alright, I'll bite: Okay Harvey please enlighten us on Brzezinski and how his inclusion on a campaign staff renders the entire operation lizardoid.b,121b,121(PS I am no Brzezinski fan.)
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Okay Harvey please enlighten us on Brzezinski and how his inclusion on a campaign staff renders the entire operation lizardoid.b,121b,121(PS I am no Brzezinski fan.) b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Because we already got a taste of what's to come in Georgia attacking Russia if one of Brzezinski's puppets takes office. b,121b,121Not to mention that Obama is already showing that he's way too overeager to up the ante in Afghanistan. b,121b,121Shit should at the very least have y'all a bit skeptical, even if it doesn't change your vote. b,121b,121Now, I see that Obama not only didn't do shit to stop the "bail-out" but even "tapped" a crooked Fannie Mae exec to help choose his VP?b,121b,121C'mon now, what kind of "change" is dude selling anyway?
b,121Damn Harvey, with all that practice, I would think you'd be better at the whole condescending contrarian thing. You couldn't find any lizard evidence not on scopes already?
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b,121Lord knows Daley has no long-standing allegiance to Obama???he hasn???t significantly helped Obama at any stage of his career. He didn???t endorse him during his successful bid for the state senate or his unsuccessful attempt to unseat Congressman Bobby Rush. He didn???t even back him in the 2004 Senate primary. Daley only endorsed Obama in the presidential campaign because he didn???t really have a choice???he had to look enthusiastic about the hometown guy, especially since he didn???t want to alienate black voters in last year???s mayoral election.
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b,121What???s more, Daley has no problem getting cozy with Republicans. In fact, Patrick Ryan is a major Republican donor: he???s given more than $200,000 to the Illinois GOP over the last few years and hosted a fund-raiser for President Bush at his house in Winnetka. In the last year Ryan and his wife have donated thousands of dollars to the campaigns of McCain, Rudolph Giuliani, and Mitt Romney???and nothing to Obama. In 2006, though, he gave Daley $100,000.
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b,121Damn Harvey, with all that practice, I would think you'd be better at the whole condescending contrarian thing. You couldn't find any lizard evidence not on scopes already?
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b,121I'm not the one posting the latest and greatest from
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Asking if its propaganda = treating it as gospel?b,121b,121Seriously...your world, I would never want to live in it.
b,121Damn Harvey, with all that practice, I would think you'd be better at the whole condescending contrarian thing. You couldn't find any lizard evidence not on scopes already?
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b,121I'm not the one posting the latest and greatest from
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b,121I'm not the one posting the latest and greatest from
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font class="post"1b,121b,121What a Democrat thing to say.
Sayin. When I read shit about McCain from less then reputable sources, even if I really, really want it to be true, I take 5 seconds to google it. Posting shit up and acting like "is this true???" when its already been debunked is lazy, transparent or both.
b,121Damn Harvey, with all that practice, I would think you'd be better at the whole condescending contrarian thing. You couldn't find any lizard evidence not on scopes already?
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b,121I'm not the one posting the latest and greatest from
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b,121Sayin. When I read shit about McCain from less then reputable sources, even if I really, really want it to be true, I take 5 seconds to google it. Posting shit up and acting like "is this true???" when its already been debunked is lazy, transparent or both.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Half of it is true though...it wasn't entirely debunked...not sure why you think it should be entirely dismissed.
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people who keep thinking fannie and freddie are the 'root' of the problems on wall street really need to step it up. the only reason right wingers keep bringing up those two companies is bcuz those were the only examples of times when they were asking for more reform - and the reason they wanted reform of those two was because they were the only companies that were publicly owned, which right wingers hated bcuz they were providing low-income ppl w/ access to housing (see the CRA act of 1977) - low income ppl who had a much higher percentage of repayment than the ppl who were flipping condos in san diego and FL in order to make $$$b,121b,121fannie and freddie were responsible for sub prime shit also, but the regulation they DID have meant that they weren't nearly as bad as privately owned companies, which was what republicans wanted to turn them into in the first place.
b,121people who keep thinking fannie and freddie are the 'root' of the problems on wall street really need to step it up. the only reason right wingers keep bringing up those two companies is bcuz those were the only examples of times when they were asking for more reform - and the reason they wanted reform of those two was because they were the only companies that were publicly owned, which right wingers hated bcuz they were providing low-income ppl w/ access to housing (see the CRA act of 1977) - low income ppl who had a much higher percentage of repayment than the ppl who were flipping condos in san diego and FL in order to make $$$
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b,121fannie and freddie were responsible for sub prime shit also, but the regulation they DID have meant that they weren't nearly as bad as privately owned companies, which was what republicans wanted to turn them into in the first place.
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b,121people who keep thinking fannie and freddie are the 'root' of the problems on wall street really need to step it up. the only reason right wingers keep bringing up those two companies is bcuz those were the only examples of times when they were asking for more reform - and the reason they wanted reform of those two was because they were the only companies that were publicly owned, which right wingers hated bcuz they were providing low-income ppl w/ access to housing (see the CRA act of 1977) - low income ppl who had a much higher percentage of repayment than the ppl who were flipping condos in san diego and FL in order to make $$$
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b,121fannie and freddie were responsible for sub prime shit also, but the regulation they DID have meant that they weren't nearly as bad as privately owned companies, which was what republicans wanted to turn them into in the first place.
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font class="post"1b,121b,121Good playing-the-dialectical-game observation, but who is only blaming those 2 companies? b,121b,121Not me, that's for sure. It's far too systematic than just 2 bad apples spoiling the bunch.
b,121people who keep thinking fannie and freddie are the 'root' of the problems on wall street really need to step it up. the only reason right wingers keep bringing up those two companies is bcuz those were the only examples of times when they were asking for more reform - and the reason they wanted reform of those two was because they were the only companies that were publicly owned, which right wingers hated bcuz they were providing low-income ppl w/ access to housing (see the CRA act of 1977) - low income ppl who had a much higher percentage of repayment than the ppl who were flipping condos in san diego and FL in order to make $$$
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b,121fannie and freddie were responsible for sub prime shit also, but the regulation they DID have meant that they weren't nearly as bad as privately owned companies, which was what republicans wanted to turn them into in the first place.
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