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  • i guess the honeymoon is over

  • UnherdUnherd 1,880 Posts
    I'm going to donate $25 bucks to Obama in honor of this thread....

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
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  • theory9theory9 1,128 Posts
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    b,121I admit I'm taking a larger anger out on you, but you are playing the part to a tee.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Dude, you're too smart to subscribe to the faulty-ass logic above.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
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  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    All the tongue-in-cheek1jpeg's in the world ain't gonna change shit. b,121b,121Just like your votes ain't gonna change shit. b,121b,121But apparently that's how y'all want it...that much is clear as Day.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121he's going to let his kids inherit a horrible mess and tell them he did his part by leading a letter writing campaign to let people out of jail,1and maybe volunteering at a food shelf. Things that no one else who would actually vote in a mainstream election could possibly wrap their heads around or do without prodding from more advanced people like himself. Didn't you hear him the first time? This is the voters fault!! When will we ever learn?? Who will think of1the children, the poor, beautiful helpless children??b,121b,121Jesus Christ, someone get dude1a pacifier and some huggies1while he wets himself over the sky falling some more.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles. b,121b,121But y'all seem unfazed...b,121b,121Personally,1I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off. b,121b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone. b,121b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing. b,121b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's. b,121b,121Now,1fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents. b,121b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    b,121he's going to let his kids inherit a horrible mess and tell them he did his part by leading a letter writing campaign to let people out of jail,1and maybe volunteering at a food shelf. Things that no one else who would actually vote in a mainstream election could possibly wrap their heads around or do without prodding from more advanced people like himself. Didn't you hear him the first time? This is the voters fault!! When will we ever learn?? Who will think of1the children, the poor, beautiful helpless children??
    b,121
    b,121Jesus Christ, someone get dude1a pacifier and some huggies1while he wets himself over the sky falling some more.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Let's see...we're in at least 2 different major and unjust wars,1and right on the verge of1the biggest of them all. The Gulf Coast is in shambles. The banking system is crashing (actually a good thing...so1don't save it dammit). We're at least in a recession, possibly a depression. The dollar is losing value by the second. We have the highest population of incarcerated citizens the modern world has ever known. Our school system is a joke. We are fat and dying of cancer at an alarming rate. Y'all are the ones always bitching about health care not being up to par. Our water is poisoned. Our skies1are posisoned. Our food has little nutritional value. Our economy has been systematically exported to places1where the asshole that you can vote for deem they will best be able to exploit next-to-slave labor. b,121b,121But hey, you still get to buy records and the latest object of your cheap desire is about to get installed as Chief Executive Empty Suit. Hooray!

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    b,121he's going to let his kids inherit a horrible mess and tell them he did his part by leading a letter writing campaign to let people out of jail,1and maybe volunteering at a food shelf. Things that no one else who would actually vote in a mainstream election could possibly wrap their heads around or do without prodding from more advanced people like himself. Didn't you hear him the first time? This is the voters fault!! When will we ever learn?? Who will think of1the children, the poor, beautiful helpless children??
    b,121
    b,121Jesus Christ, someone get dude1a pacifier and some huggies1while he wets himself over the sky falling some more.
    b,121
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    b,121Let's see...we're in at least 2 different major and unjust wars,1and right on the verge of1the biggest of them all. The Gulf Coast is in shambles. The banking system is crashing (actually a good thing...so1don't save it dammit). We're at least in a recession, possibly a depression. The dollar is losing value by the second. We have the highest population of incarcerated citizens the modern world has ever known. Our school system is a joke. We are fat and dying of cancer at an alarming rate. Y'all are the ones always bitching about health care not being up to par. Our water is poisoned. Our skies1are posisoned. Our food has little nutritional value. Our economy has been systematically exported to places1where the asshole that you can vote for deem they will best be able to exploit next-to-slave labor.
    b,121
    b,121But hey, you still get to buy records and the latest object of your cheap desire is about to get installed as Chief Executive Empty Suit. Hooray!1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I can't tell who is a bigger fool, you or me for even responding.b,121b,121I am1not voting for Obama so he can slob my knob and be my f*cking date to the prom, you moron. He is (hands down)the best of two options. Yet you are willing to step out of the fray over one issue. Idiocy personafied. What Superman is going to fix any of that shit overnight? When did I say Obama would,1and when did this thread become only about ALL THE ILLS OF THE WORLD?b,121b,121You remind me of the people who come into DC every year or so1and have a ralley to END WAR/RACISM/SEXISM/POVERTY/INJUSTICE/DEATH AT THE HANDS OF CAPITALIST PIGSb,121b,121yeah, good luck with all that. Way to focus.

  • theory9theory9 1,128 Posts
    So the government is responsible for destroying houses on the Gulf Coast?b,121Do you think taxpayer dollars should be used to rebuild those homes?

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    b,121he's going to let his kids inherit a horrible mess and tell them he did his part by leading a letter writing campaign to let people out of jail,1and maybe volunteering at a food shelf. Things that no one else who would actually vote in a mainstream election could possibly wrap their heads around or do without prodding from more advanced people like himself. Didn't you hear him the first time? This is the voters fault!! When will we ever learn?? Who will think of1the children, the poor, beautiful helpless children??
    b,121
    b,121Jesus Christ, someone get dude1a pacifier and some huggies1while he wets himself over the sky falling some more.
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    b,121Let's see...we're in at least 2 different major and unjust wars,1and right on the verge of1the biggest of them all. The Gulf Coast is in shambles. The banking system is crashing (actually a good thing...so1don't save it dammit). We're at least in a recession, possibly a depression. The dollar is losing value by the second. We have the highest population of incarcerated citizens the modern world has ever known. Our school system is a joke. We are fat and dying of cancer at an alarming rate. Y'all are the ones always bitching about health care not being up to par. Our water is poisoned. Our skies1are posisoned. Our food has little nutritional value. Our economy has been systematically exported to places1where the asshole that you can vote for deem they will best be able to exploit next-to-slave labor.
    b,121
    b,121But hey, you still get to buy records and the latest object of your cheap desire is about to get installed as Chief Executive Empty Suit. Hooray!1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I imagine you checking the weather outside to see which of your tin foil hats would be best to wear today.b,121b,121can you let us know when you plan to go "off1the grid" so that we may prepare our celebration accordingly?

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
    b,121
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    h,121
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
    b,121
    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
    b,121
    b,121Personally,1I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
    b,121
    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
    b,121
    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
    b,121
    b,121Now,1fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
    b,121
    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the chips fall1where they may? b,121b,121And man, do you really (and I mean really) believe that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate/Anti-Christ/government pawn? That's pretty way out even for you.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
    b,121
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    b,121he's going to let his kids inherit a horrible mess and tell them he did his part by leading a letter writing campaign to let people out of jail,1and maybe volunteering at a food shelf. Things that no one else who would actually vote in a mainstream election could possibly wrap their heads around or do without prodding from more advanced people like himself. Didn't you hear him the first time? This is the voters fault!! When will we ever learn?? Who will think of1the children, the poor, beautiful helpless children??
    b,121
    b,121Jesus Christ, someone get dude1a pacifier and some huggies1while he wets himself over the sky falling some more.
    b,121
    b,121
    h,121
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    b,121Let's see...we're in at least 2 different major and unjust wars,1and right on the verge of1the biggest of them all. The Gulf Coast is in shambles. The banking system is crashing (actually a good thing...so1don't save it dammit). We're at least in a recession, possibly a depression. The dollar is losing value by the second. We have the highest population of incarcerated citizens the modern world has ever known. Our school system is a joke. We are fat and dying of cancer at an alarming rate. Y'all are the ones always bitching about health care not being up to par. Our water is poisoned. Our skies1are posisoned. Our food has little nutritional value. Our economy has been systematically exported to places1where the asshole that you can vote for deem they will best be able to exploit next-to-slave labor.
    b,121
    b,121But hey, you still get to buy records and the latest object of your cheap desire is about to get installed as Chief Executive Empty Suit. Hooray!1
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    b,121I can't tell who is a bigger fool, you or me for even responding.
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    b,121I am1not voting for Obama so he can slob my knob and be my f*cking date to the prom, you moron. He is (hands down)the best of two options. Yet you are willing to step out of the fray over one issue. Idiocy personafied. What Superman is going to fix any of that shit overnight? When did I say Obama would,1and when did this thread become only about ALL THE ILLS OF THE WORLD?
    b,121
    b,121You remind me of the people who come into DC every year or so1and have a ralley to END WAR/RACISM/SEXISM/POVERTY/INJUSTICE/DEATH AT THE HANDS OF CAPITALIST PIGS
    b,121
    b,121yeah, good luck with all that. Way to focus.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Look dude, it's all of your compromising your own values and accepting a false-face 2-party system as the only options available to you that keeps this bullshit in tact. You are certainly not alone on this and the lot of you need to pull your heads out of the emporer's ass already. b,121b,121This crap could all be changed tomorrow,1if people would indeed FOCUS.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121So the government is responsible for destroying houses on the Gulf Coast?
    b,121Do you think taxpayer dollars should be used to rebuild those homes?1
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121In New Orleans, yes...at the very least, the Army Corp of Engineers was negligent in knowing full well that their levees could not withstand a direct hit from even just a category 2 hurricane like Katrina. b,121b,121Other than that,1you are just putting words in my mouth that I've never said.

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
    b,121
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    h,121
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
    b,121
    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
    b,121
    b,121Personally,1I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
    b,121
    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
    b,121
    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
    b,121
    b,121Now,1fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
    b,121
    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
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    b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the chips fall1where they may?
    b,121
    b,121And man, do you really (and I mean
    really) believe that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate/Anti-Christ/government pawn? That's pretty way out even for you.1b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Dude is confi using the Obama-avatar campaign with real life fervor. I hate to break it to you, Harv,1but this board is hardly crawling with die-hard politicos,1and that includes your ill-informed ass.

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
    b,121
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    b,121he's going to let his kids inherit a horrible mess and tell them he did his part by leading a letter writing campaign to let people out of jail,1and maybe volunteering at a food shelf. Things that no one else who would actually vote in a mainstream election could possibly wrap their heads around or do without prodding from more advanced people like himself. Didn't you hear him the first time? This is the voters fault!! When will we ever learn?? Who will think of1the children, the poor, beautiful helpless children??
    b,121
    b,121Jesus Christ, someone get dude1a pacifier and some huggies1while he wets himself over the sky falling some more.
    b,121
    b,121
    h,121
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    b,121Let's see...we're in at least 2 different major and unjust wars,1and right on the verge of1the biggest of them all. The Gulf Coast is in shambles. The banking system is crashing (actually a good thing...so1don't save it dammit). We're at least in a recession, possibly a depression. The dollar is losing value by the second. We have the highest population of incarcerated citizens the modern world has ever known. Our school system is a joke. We are fat and dying of cancer at an alarming rate. Y'all are the ones always bitching about health care not being up to par. Our water is poisoned. Our skies1are posisoned. Our food has little nutritional value. Our economy has been systematically exported to places1where the asshole that you can vote for deem they will best be able to exploit next-to-slave labor.
    b,121
    b,121But hey, you still get to buy records and the latest object of your cheap desire is about to get installed as Chief Executive Empty Suit. Hooray!1
    b,121
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    h,121
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    b,121I can't tell who is a bigger fool, you or me for even responding.
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    b,121I am1not voting for Obama so he can slob my knob and be my f*cking date to the prom, you moron. He is (hands down)the best of two options. Yet you are willing to step out of the fray over one issue. Idiocy personafied. What Superman is going to fix any of that shit overnight? When did I say Obama would,1and when did this thread become only about ALL THE ILLS OF THE WORLD?
    b,121
    b,121You remind me of the people who come into DC every year or so1and have a ralley to END WAR/RACISM/SEXISM/POVERTY/INJUSTICE/DEATH AT THE HANDS OF CAPITALIST PIGS
    b,121
    b,121yeah, good luck with all that. Way to focus.
    b,121
    b,121
    h,121
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    b,121Look dude, it's all of your compromising your own values and accepting a false-face 2-party system as the only options available to you that keeps this bullshit in tact. You are certainly not alone on this and the lot of you need to pull your heads out of the emporer's ass already.
    b,121
    b,121This crap could all be changed tomorrow,1if people would indeed FOCUS.
    b,121
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Yes, sure it could. How do you see the sky falling through your rose-colored glasses?

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
    b,121
    b,121
    h,121
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
    b,121
    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
    b,121
    b,121Personally,1I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
    b,121
    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
    b,121
    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
    b,121
    b,121Now,1fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
    b,121
    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
    b,121
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    b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the chips fall1where they may?
    b,121
    b,121And man, do you really (and I mean
    really) believe that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate/Anti-Christ/government pawn? That's pretty way out even for you.1b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121No,1I doubt I will ever vote for a lesser of 2 evils. Talk about a wsted vote...b,121b,121And yeah, Obama was in fact1groomed by the worst of them.1b,121b,121I don't know how you even consider that to be1a "conspiracy theory" at this point.

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    font class="post"1b,121b,121no it's not.b,121b,121And if this does become an "everyone attack Archaic" thread its only because he bring it on himself switching the idea of it from "why do you want to vote for Obama?" to "You guys are all complacent pawns1and whats really wrong with the world".

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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
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    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
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    b,121Personally,1I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
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    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
    b,121
    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
    b,121
    b,121Now,1fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
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    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
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    b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the chips fall1where they may?
    b,121
    b,121And man, do you really (and I mean
    really) believe that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate/Anti-Christ/government pawn? That's pretty way out even for you.1b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121Dude is confi using the Obama-avatar campaign with real life fervor. I hate to break it to you, Harv,1but this board is hardly crawling with die-hard politicos,1and that includes your ill-informed ass.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Oh I know,1all of the incessant presidential race dicussions on here make it obviously clear that y'all are way more interested in Jamaican bobsled racing.b,121b,121And dude, other than saying I1shouldn't let one issue deter me...you haven't said shit in here yet about how underhanded and weak it is for Obama to support the bail-out. b,121b,121Again, the banks floated impossible-to-pay loans completely convinced that they could eventually sell them off at a discounted price.1And mind you, they didn't actually loan cash...they loaned reserve representations of cash i.e.1fake money, which made even the discounted rate they could sell the loans off as desirable. But now that noone in their right mind wants to buy their known-from-jump-to-be-junk-loans, we're going to fork over $700 billion in cash to them? For what? So they can pull the same shit again.1Arrest these assholes. Don't protect and reward them.

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    b,121So the government is responsible for destroying houses on the Gulf Coast?
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    b,121In New Orleans, yes...at the very least, the Army Corp of Engineers was negligent in knowing full well that their levees could not withstand a direct hit from even just a category 2 hurricane like Katrina.
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    b,121Other than that,1you are just putting words in my mouth that I've never said.1
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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
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    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
    b,121
    b,121Personally,1I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
    b,121
    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
    b,121
    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
    b,121
    b,121Now,1fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
    b,121
    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
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    b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the chips fall1where they may?
    b,121
    b,121And man, do you really (and I mean
    really) believe that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate/Anti-Christ/government pawn? That's pretty way out even for you.1b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121Dude is confi using the Obama-avatar campaign with real life fervor. I hate to break it to you, Harv,1but this board is hardly crawling with die-hard politicos,1and that includes your ill-informed ass.
    b,121
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    b,121Oh I know,1all of the incessant presidential race dicussions on here make it obviously clear that y'all are way more interested in Jamaican bobsled racing.
    b,121
    b,121And dude, other than saying I1shouldn't let one issue deter me...you haven't said shit in here yet about how underhanded and weak it is for Obama to support the bail-out.
    b,121
    b,121Again, the banks floated impossible-to-pay loans completely convinced that they could eventually sell them off at a discounted price.1And mind you, they didn't actually loan cash...they loaned reserve representations of cash i.e.1fake money, which made even the discounted rate they could sell the loans off as desirable. But now that noone in their right mind wants to buy their known-from-jump-to-be-junk-loans, we're going to fork over $700 billion in cash to them? For what? So they can pull the same shit again.1Arrest these assholes. Don't protect and reward them.1
    b,121
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Since1you are so smart Harvey....who are "Them" in this scenario?1Arrest whom exactly? The mortgage broker single mom who works for a predatory lender? How long1before you are scolding us here for allowing the government to arrest such a solid citizen? b,121b,121You are right, I haven't said shit about something which I am1not an expert on and am1still trying to figure out. I haven't told you my position because this shit is not black and white1and right vs. wrong the way you wanna play it to be. Many people lose if the financial system falls apart, many people who do not deserve vast sums of1money may get them if they give them the bail-out. Should they slow this down? I say yes, but others say that will cause more problems. Jesus, can't you pull your head out of your cavernous asshole long1enough to see this is not some either/or shit? b,121b,121You need to think in deeper terms, not just let all this shit rise out thru your eyeballs. You are a solution to NOTHING.

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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
    b,121
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
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    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
    b,121
    b,121Personally,1I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
    b,121
    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
    b,121
    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
    b,121
    b,121Now,1fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
    b,121
    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
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    b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the chips fall1where they may?
    b,121
    b,121And man, do you really (and I mean
    really) believe that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate/Anti-Christ/government pawn? That's pretty way out even for you.1b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121Dude is confi using the Obama-avatar campaign with real life fervor. I hate to break it to you, Harv,1but this board is hardly crawling with die-hard politicos,1and that includes your ill-informed ass.
    b,121
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    b,121Oh I know,1all of the incessant presidential race dicussions on here make it obviously clear that y'all are way more interested in Jamaican bobsled racing.
    b,121
    b,121And dude, other than saying I1shouldn't let one issue deter me...you haven't said shit in here yet about how underhanded and weak it is for Obama to support the bail-out.
    b,121
    b,121Again, the banks floated impossible-to-pay loans completely convinced that they could eventually sell them off at a discounted price.1And mind you, they didn't actually loan cash...they loaned reserve representations of cash i.e.1fake money, which made even the discounted rate they could sell the loans off as desirable. But now that noone in their right mind wants to buy their known-from-jump-to-be-junk-loans, we're going to fork over $700 billion in cash to them? For what? So they can pull the same shit again.1Arrest these assholes. Don't protect and reward them.1
    b,121
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    b,121Since1you are so smart Harvey....who are "Them" in this scenario?1Arrest whom exactly? The mortgage broker single mom who works for a predatory lender? How long1before you are scolding us here for allowing the government to arrest such a solid citizen?
    b,121
    b,121You are right, I haven't said shit about something which I am1not an expert on and am1still trying to figure out. I haven't told you my position because this shit is not black and white1and right vs. wrong the way you wanna play it to be. Many people lose if the financial system falls apart, many people who do not deserve vast sums of1money may get them if they give them the bail-out. Should they slow this down? I say yes, but others say that will cause more problems. Jesus, can't you pull your head out of your cavernous asshole long1enough to see this is not some either/or shit?
    b,121
    b,121You need to think in deeper terms, not just let all this shit rise out thru your eyeballs. You are a solution to NOTHING.
    b,121
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Oh, so you admit that you don't know shit...but that doesn't stop you from throwing barbs over it. Well, if you did knw shit...you would know full well that this banking situation is indeed cut-and-dry.1A really good friend of mine has an older brother who worked for Enron. He was busted a few years back on a deal1where he made $1 million commission off of a mere $60,000 transaction. He was the first of the Enron employees to go to jail. He's pretty much out now...but the1reason why I bring that up is when Enron was pulling similar funny-money tactics,1all you Dem-types were all up in arms about it. But now, since1you have your man standing in for it,1y'all are gonna claim ignorance as if you don't know whether manipulating the market to such a degree is a crime.b,121b,121HOW MANY TIMES ARE Y'ALL GOING TO LOOK AWAY OUT OF CONVENIENCE? b,121b,121I took out a1reasonable mortgage and the payments are being kept up on just fine...but now Obama is telling me that I'm supposed to on top of that help pay some other bank that I've never done business with in order to preserve their right to continue ripping us all off blind?b,121b,121US banks have the highest potential for profit margin of any industry anywhere. They can compound their success exponentially...do y'all even get that? If they failed, even with having that insane advantage over everyone else, F*ck EM! b,121b,121And it will be better for our economy in the long run to have them and their sheisty practices gone.

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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
    b,121
    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
    b,121
    b,121Personally, I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
    b,121
    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
    b,121
    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
    b,121
    b,121Now, fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
    b,121
    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
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    b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the1chips fall1where they may?1
    b,121
    b,121And man, do you really (and I mean
    really) believe1that Obama is some kind of Manchurian Candidate/Anti-Christ/government pawn? That's pretty way out even for you.1b,121b,121h,121
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    b,121Dude is confi using the Obama-avatar campaign with real life fervor. I hate to break it to you, Harv,1but this board is hardly crawling with die-hard politicos, and that includes your ill-informed ass.
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    b,121Oh I know, all of the incessant presidential race dicussions on here make it obviously clear that y'all are way more interested in Jamaican bobsled racing.
    b,121
    b,121And dude, other than saying I shouldn't let one issue deter me...you haven't said shit in here yet about how underhanded and weak it is for Obama to support the bail-out.
    b,121
    b,121Again, the banks floated impossible-to-pay loans completely convinced that they could eventually sell them off at a discounted price.1And mind you, they didn't actually loan cash...they loaned reserve representations of cash i.e.1fake money, which made even the discounted rate they could sell the loans off as desirable. But now that noone in their right mind wants to buy their known-from-jump-to-be-junk-loans, we're going to fork over $700 billion in cash to them? For what? So they can pull the same shit again.1Arrest these assholes. Don't protect and reward them.
    b,121
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    b,121Since1you are so smart Harvey....who are "Them" in this scenario?1Arrest whom exactly? The mortgage broker single mom who works for a predatory lender? How long1before1you are scolding us here for allowing the government to arrest such a solid citizen?1
    b,121
    b,121You are right, I haven't said shit about something which I am1not an expert on and am still trying to figure out. I haven't told you my position because this shit is not black and white and right vs. wrong the way you wanna play it to be. Many people lose if the financial system falls apart,1many people who do not deserve vast sums of money may get them if they give them the bail-out. Should they slow this down? I say yes, but others say that will cause more problems. Jesus, can't you pull your head out of your cavernous asshole long1enough to see this is not some either/or shit?1
    b,121
    b,121You need to think in deeper terms, not just let all this shit rise out thru your eyeballs. You are a solution to NOTHING.
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    b,121Oh, so you admit that you don't know shit...but that doesn't stop you from throwing barbs over it. Well, if you did knw shit...you would know full well that this banking situation is indeed cut-and-dry.1A really good friend of mine has an older brother who worked for Enron. He was busted a few years back on a deal1where he made $1 million commission off of a mere $60,000 transaction. He was the first of the Enron employees to go to jail. He's pretty much out now...but the reason1why I bring that up is when Enron was pulling similar funny-money tactics, all you Dem-types were all up in arms about it. But now, since1you have your man standing in for it, y'all are gonna claim ignorance as if you don't know whether manipulating the market to such a degree is a crime.
    b,121
    b,121HOW MANY TIMES ARE Y'ALL GOING TO LOOK AWAY OUT OF CONVENIENCE?1
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    b,121I took out a reasonable mortgage and the payments are being kept up on just fine...but now Obama is telling me that I'm supposed to on top of that help pay some other bank that I've1never done business with in order to preserve their right to continue ripping us all off blind?
    b,121
    b,121US banks have the highest potential for profit margin of any industry anywhere. They can compound their success exponentially...do y'all even get that? If they failed, even with having that insane advantage over everyone else, F*ck EM!1
    b,121
    b,121And it will be better for our economy1in the long1run to have them and their sheisty practices gone.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121RIF1b,121b,121I didn't say I didn't know shit....you said I hadn't said shit about a topic you clearly know nothing about, and I admitted that I was no expert HENCE1why I had not gone there. But you need to twist people's words in order to feel like the1big man, so twist away.b,121b,121You haven't answered anything about anything except to say Obama is of no help to you, the rest of us are stone stupid despite the1fact that you don't know us, your kids don't deserve this world, and that our supporting Obama is preventing you from achieving some kind of greater good. All of which is pure fiction. You are a joke Harvey. You act like you know something about it and you don't know shit.b,121b,121And for the record....who do you suggest we arrest in this mess? Once again I ask you.1You don't f*cking have the first clue. This is MUCH bigger than Enron you fool.

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    b,121Dude wtf are you going to do? Not vote? Let McCain possibly win? Write in Ron Paul? I mean seriously, this whole thread is ridiculous at this point.
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    b,121Obama openly and eagerly supporting the banking bail-out trumps any ridiculousness in here by quantum miles.
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    b,121But y'all seem unfazed...
    b,121
    b,121Personally, I was planning to vote for Obama until this bail-out bullshit jumped off.
    b,121
    b,121Plus, seeing how anti-critical his supporters are isn't good for anyone.
    b,121
    b,121This whole thing is looking more and more like a grand brainwashing.
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    b,121Bad enough fools voted for Kerry as the anti-war candidate last time even though he openly stated in debates that he'd take an even more hawkish stance to end the war in Iraq than Bush's.
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    b,121Now, fools are talking about Obama being for the people and here he is on board with giving elite bankers carte blanch to make idiotic mistakes on the backs of his constituents.
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    b,121Yeah, like I'm going to vote for that absolute weak sauce.1
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    b,121I'm not gonna turn this into an "EVERYONE ATTACK ARCHAIC" thread, but seriously, even considering all the things you said, you're not even going to vote for the proverbial "lesser of 2 evils"? You'd rather just sit back and let the1chips fall1where they may?1
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    b,121Dude is confi using the Obama-avatar campaign with real life fervor. I hate to break it to you, Harv,1but this board is hardly crawling with die-hard politicos, and that includes your ill-informed ass.
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    b,121Oh I know, all of the incessant presidential race dicussions on here make it obviously clear that y'all are way more interested in Jamaican bobsled racing.
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    b,121And dude, other than saying I shouldn't let one issue deter me...you haven't said shit in here yet about how underhanded and weak it is for Obama to support the bail-out.
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    b,121Again, the banks floated impossible-to-pay loans completely convinced that they could eventually sell them off at a discounted price.1And mind you, they didn't actually loan cash...they loaned reserve representations of cash i.e.1fake money, which made even the discounted rate they could sell the loans off as desirable. But now that noone in their right mind wants to buy their known-from-jump-to-be-junk-loans, we're going to fork over $700 billion in cash to them? For what? So they can pull the same shit again.1Arrest these assholes. Don't protect and reward them.
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    b,121Since1you are so smart Harvey....who are "Them" in this scenario?1Arrest whom exactly? The mortgage broker single mom who works for a predatory lender? How long1before1you are scolding us here for allowing the government to arrest such a solid citizen?1
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    b,121You are right, I haven't said shit about something which I am1not an expert on and am still trying to figure out. I haven't told you my position because this shit is not black and white and right vs. wrong the way you wanna play it to be. Many people lose if the financial system falls apart,1many people who do not deserve vast sums of money may get them if they give them the bail-out. Should they slow this down? I say yes, but others say that will cause more problems. Jesus, can't you pull your head out of your cavernous asshole long1enough to see this is not some either/or shit?1
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    b,121You need to think in deeper terms, not just let all this shit rise out thru your eyeballs. You are a solution to NOTHING.
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    b,121Oh, so you admit that you don't know shit...but that doesn't stop you from throwing barbs over it. Well, if you did knw shit...you would know full well that this banking situation is indeed cut-and-dry.1A really good friend of mine has an older brother who worked for Enron. He was busted a few years back on a deal1where he made $1 million commission off of a mere $60,000 transaction. He was the first of the Enron employees to go to jail. He's pretty much out now...but the reason1why I bring that up is when Enron was pulling similar funny-money tactics, all you Dem-types were all up in arms about it. But now, since1you have your man standing in for it, y'all are gonna claim ignorance as if you don't know whether manipulating the market to such a degree is a crime.
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    b,121HOW MANY TIMES ARE Y'ALL GOING TO LOOK AWAY OUT OF CONVENIENCE?1
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    b,121I took out a reasonable mortgage and the payments are being kept up on just fine...but now Obama is telling me that I'm supposed to on top of that help pay some other bank that I've1never done business with in order to preserve their right to continue ripping us all off blind?
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    b,121US banks have the highest potential for profit margin of any industry anywhere. They can compound their success exponentially...do y'all even get that? If they failed, even with having that insane advantage over everyone else, F*ck EM!1
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    b,121And it will be better for our economy1in the long1run to have them and their sheisty practices gone.
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    b,121I didn't say I didn't know shit....you said I hadn't said shit about a topic you clearly know nothing about, and I admitted that I was no expert HENCE1why I had not gone there. But you need to twist people's words in order to feel like the1big man, so twist away.
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    b,121You haven't answered anything about anything except to say Obama is of no help to you, the rest of us are stone stupid despite the1fact that you don't know us, your kids don't deserve this world, and that our supporting Obama is preventing you from achieving some kind of greater good. All of which is pure fiction. You are a joke Harvey. You act like you know something about it and you don't know shit.
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    b,121And for the record....who do you suggest we arrest in this mess? Once again I ask you.1You don't f*cking have the first clue. This is MUCH bigger than Enron you fool.
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    font class="post"1b,121b,121Whoever ultimately approved the junk loans that were being sold off at a discounted rate...up to a point. There should be a clear pattern of sheisty behavior laid out for a prosecutor to pick who actually deserves jailtime. b,121b,121But hey, before1we even go that route...let's just pass out $700 billion.b,121b,121Just as a contrast as to how ridiculous that bail-out number is: WaMu, as the largest US bank to ever fail, had its assets bought by JP Morgan for $1.9 billion just yesterday.
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