Troubleman Soundtrack

gruntgravelgruntgravel 559 Posts
edited July 2005 in Music Talk
Has anyone else been surprised with how good this is? I knew Marvin was talented, but Goddamn! The notes say he wrote, arranged and plays the Rhodes on the entire album. Shit, he does'nt really even sing on this at all.
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  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    shit is that shit

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    Has anyone else been surprised with how good this is? I knew Marvin was talented, but Goddamn! The notes say he wrote, arranged and plays the Rhodes on the entire album. Shit, he does'nt really even sing on this at all.


    I don't remember being surprised at all. Good though.

  • It is a little out of ordinary. I have never heard of another all-instrumental Marvin Gaye session. If one exists, I would like to hear it.

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    It's not really ALL instrumental.

  • I think it's the only one he wrote, arranged and produced all on his own.

  • A couple moans and repeated phrases makes it practically all-instrumental then. Damn! Would anyone on this board take the time and post a pic of a record that they haven't spun yet?

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
    Anybody seen the movie? Hows it rate with the regular blaxploitation fare? (i.e. pretty bad)

    One of the better ones, an a mystery as to why it has remained unavailale all these years.

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    You've heard the (ALL) vocal title track, correct????????????????????

  • My point is troubleman doesn't sound like the majority of his work. And, if you're not familar with this session (like I was when I first heard it), it's a pleasant surprise. So, do you want to go with 33 1/3 all-instrumental? Does that sound about right or should I break out my abacus and find out the exact voice to instrument ratio?

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    Whatever you have to do to correct your gross factual error...

  • T PLays it Cool is perhaps his best work....

  • You are obviously challenged on some level little man. I mean who the fuck looks for confrontations on a message board about records. I do not have time for your sophomoric hipster antics. Unfortunately, I have to deal with your ilk all day. You official turned my post about Troubleman totally gaye.

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    Haha! You mad? Someone was bound to correct you, it just happened to be me. Accuracy and precise language would have prevented all of this.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts

    this is a stones throw-ish beef.

    Rey, got my eye on a record of yours...don't be surprised if you're addressing a package to montreal by the weekend...

    h

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    This thread is hilarious. I don't know about you all, but Rey cracks me up sometimes.

    I don't think I've sat with this whole record all the way through but I shall tonight.

    Has anybody seen the movie Marvin Gaye was in? It was made in the late 60's (I think) maybe 70 by the latest. It's some biker flick. I only caught some of it on TV but I'd like to check that out.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Here it is:

    CHROME & HOT LEATHER (1970) Big, bad William Smith runs a group of renegade bikers
    who murder a girl out of stupidity. Turns out her boyfriend is a marine straight out of Vietnam,
    and he intends on avenging her death. Cool bikers vs, soldiers flick, complete with Marvin Gaye
    as one of the marines.



  • Sounds like your typical campy blaxploitation revenge plot. Foxy Brown, anyone?

  • TheMackTheMack 3,414 Posts
    gruntgravel, chill out man. its not an instrumental record. most of the songs are instrumental, but for an ALBUM to be instrumental ALL the songs need to be void of any vocals. all Rey was doing is correcting you blunder. chillax homie

  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    Here it is:

    CHROME & HOT LEATHER


    Sounds like a flick Delay's homegirl would be in.

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    You are obviously challenged on some level little man. I mean who the fuck looks for confrontations on a message board about records. I do not have time for your sophomoric hipster antics. Unfortunately, I have to deal with your ilk all day. You official turned my post about Troubleman totally gaye.

    this made my day,

    Rey[/b]: Package is being shipped this Thursday

  • generiquegenerique 625 Posts
    There's an unreal BBC documentary on Marvin Gaye called 'Trouble Man' about his last years. It's unreal because he lived in Oostende during that period, basically to get ridd of his many habbits. He was living with this typical Belgian family in a small Belgian house, playing at the local casino. The film material from that period is just hard to believe, this glamorous guy in a rainy coastal, provincial town. I guess he was really low down at that point and he needed the blandness. Anyway, he did record a record there, 'Midnight Love'.

    I was totally suprised too when I got the Trouble Man soundtrack and I always buy it because it's the ideal gift, I think. I was also suprised by Together Brothers by Barry White, which actually is an excellent film. I love that record and it gains meaning and depth when you have watched the film. Did Barry do the arrangements?

  • gruntgravel, chill out man. its not an instrumental record. most of the songs are instrumental, but for an ALBUM to be instrumental ALL the songs need to be void of any vocals. all Rey was doing is correcting you blunder. chillax homie

    I'm chillaxed. I just don't understand what the point was to squabble over something that really had nothing to do with my post. Yes, the record is not ALL instrumental, but the majority of songs are are, and that is unusual as far as his body of work goes. That was the crux of my post, not the fact that troubleman is not a 100% certified and bone fide all instrumental album. Reynaldo came down like a total dick, and I noticed he edited his post to delete the part where he questions whether I have listened to the album. I don???t have time for that type of elitist record snob rhetoric.

  • There's an unreal BBC documentary on Marvin Gaye called 'Trouble Man' about his last years. It's unreal because he lived in Oostende during that period, basically to get ridd of his many habbits. He was living with this typical Belgian family in a small Belgian house, playing at the local casino. The film material from that period is just hard to believe, this glamorous guy in a rainy coastal, provincial town. I guess he was really low down at that point and he needed the blandness. Anyway, he did record a record there, 'Midnight Love'.

    I think another big reason he was in Belgium because he was fleeing the IRS.


  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    I was totally suprised too when I got the Trouble Man soundtrack and I always buy it because it's the ideal gift, I think. I was also suprised by Together Brothers by Barry White, which actually is an excellent film.



    I wouldn't have been surprised.



    Remember, these albums were soundtracks[/b]. I tend to think of albums like this as movie scores FIRST and the artist's album SECOND. Common sense should tell you that these albums weren't going to be typical of the rest of the artist's output. I know that's saying a lot with boundary-pushers like Marvin Gaye who raised the bar with each new album, but even then...

  • upskibooupskiboo 2,396 Posts
    T PLays it Cool is perhaps his best work....



    This track was made with a 4 bar tape drumloop instead of live drums,...kinda like hiphop style production but in 1972,....fresh huh!

  • I wouldn't have been surprised.



    Remember, these albums were soundtracks. I tend to think of albums like this as movie scores FIRST and the artist's album SECOND. Common sense should tell you that these albums weren't going to be typical of the rest of the artist's output. I know that's saying a lot with boundary-pushers like Marvin Gaye who raised the bar with each new album, but even then...

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    Oh...everyone is just so sanctimonious and snug around here.

  • T PLays it Cool is perhaps his best work....

    This song was made with a 4 bar tape drumloop instead of live drums,...kinda like hiphop style production but in 1972,....fresh huh!

    Nice! This is the kind of shit that I find interesting.

  • generiquegenerique 625 Posts
    I was totally suprised too when I got the Trouble Man soundtrack and I always buy it because it's the ideal gift, I think. I was also suprised by Together Brothers by Barry White, which actually is an excellent film.

    I wouldn't have been surprised.

    Remember, these albums were soundtracks[/b]. I tend to think of albums like this as movie scores FIRST and the artist's album SECOND. Common sense should tell you that these albums weren't going to be typical of the rest of the artist's output. I know that's saying a lot with boundary-pushers like Marvin Gaye who raised the bar with each new album, but even then...

    I found my first copy of Trouble Man at a time when I didn't have common sense, probably at the age of 15, so that might explain the initial suprise. I think I was mainly suprised by how good it was, not so much that it wasn't a typical Marvin Gaye record, if such a record exists. But anyway, this movie gave him the opportunity to go out of the song format and explore different moods, as Together Brothers did for Barry White, which is great and I wish it would have happened more.

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    I wouldn't have been surprised.

    Remember, these albums were soundtracks. I tend to think of albums like this as movie scores FIRST and the artist's album SECOND. Common sense should tell you that these albums weren't going to be typical of the rest of the artist's output. I know that's saying a lot with boundary-pushers like Marvin Gaye who raised the bar with each new album, but even then...
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    Oh...everyone is just so sanctimonious and snug around here.

    Sanctimonius, hell[/b] - we just don't agree, is all. Didn't even mean it to be a slam. With all due respect, Grunt, if it's the soundtrack to a movie, I know good and well it's not going to be What's Going On, Part 2. Maybe if it were a stand-alone album without a movie to go along with it, THEN I'd be shocked by that elpee, but let's be real about it!

    As creative as Marvin was, I don't think ANY of his albums could be referred to as WGO, Part 2. Or three, or four, or on down the line...

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    I was totally suprised too when I got the Trouble Man soundtrack and I always buy it because it's the ideal gift, I think. I was also suprised by Together Brothers by Barry White, which actually is an excellent film.

    I wouldn't have been surprised.

    Remember, these albums were soundtracks[/b]. I tend to think of albums like this as movie scores FIRST and the artist's album SECOND. Common sense should tell you that these albums weren't going to be typical of the rest of the artist's output. I know that's saying a lot with boundary-pushers like Marvin Gaye who raised the bar with each new album, but even then...

    I found my first copy of Trouble Man at a time when I didn't have common sense, probably at the age of 15, so that might explain the initial suprise. I think I was mainly suprised by how good it was, not so much that it wasn't a typical Marvin Gaye record, if such a record exists. But anyway, this movie gave him the opportunity to go out of the song format and explore different moods, which is great and I wish it would have happened more.

    I apologize - I didn't mean to imply that neither you or Grunt didn't have sense. I guess because it's a soundtrack, I'd just come to a record like that with different expectations. Why else would Marvin Gaye share an album cover with actor Calvin Lockhart? (I THINK that's who that guy is with the gun...) Just funning, though, with the Calvin Lockhart remark; not trying to "son" anybody.

    Seriously, though - as we implied above, by the seventies there really was no such thing as a typical Marvin Gaye record, yet the Trouble Man album still manages to surprise.
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