Women can still have an abortion. If they live in a state that bans abortion, they just need to go to another state.
exactly. and if the girl is too poor, young, or incapable of going off to another state (perhaps traveling across the country depending on where states align themselves) then she just has to suck it up and have the baby.
Women can still have an abortion. If they live in a state that bans abortion, they just need to go to another state.
exactly. and if the girl is too poor, young, or incapable of going off to another state (perhaps traveling across the country depending on where states align themselves) then she just has to suck it up and have the baby.
BTW, i'm a socialist who's intrigued by Ron Paul's message (or Libertarianism in general). So, i'm pro-abortion myself but i thought his solution to this extremely divisive issue (not over here though) was pretty clever.
BTW, i'm a socialist who's intrigued by Ron Paul's message (or Libertarianism in general). So, i'm pro-abortion myself but i thought his solution to this extremely divisive issue (not over here though) was pretty clever.
BTW, i'm a socialist who's intrigued by Ron Paul's message (or Libertarianism in general). So, i'm pro-abortion myself but i thought his solution to this extremely divisive issue (not over here though) was pretty clever.
Dude, if you really think that invoking states' rights on this issue is new, novel or "clever," you really need to educate yourself. But then again, it's not exactly surprising coming from somebody who describes himself as "pro-abortion".
And a final note: the issue really isn't that divisive; it's a controversy kept alive by a small but very vocal minority.
It's either D.C. or the States. To me the state seems to better represent the people.
No doubt! If only George Wallace and Ross Barnett had been permitted to fully represent the people instead of ground beneath the wheel of the totalitarian federal government!
BTW, i'm a socialist who's intrigued by Ron Paul's message (or Libertarianism in general). So, i'm pro-abortion myself but i thought his solution to this extremely divisive issue (not over here though) was pretty clever.
Dude, if you really think that invoking states' rights on this issue is new, novel or "clever," you really need to educate yourself. But then again, it's not exactly surprising coming from somebody who describes himself as "pro-abortion".
And a final note: the issue really isn't that divisive; it's a controversy kept alive by a small but very vocal minority.
Hey, i'm an outsider. I don't know that much about your country's political past.
Regarding the "pro-abortion", what is wrong with that? I meant that i'm not against abortion. What did you think i meant? Please to keep in mind that i'm Dutch and that things might get lost in translation.
I agree on your last point.
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Give Texas back to Mexico? Sure!
If you guys get into a states' rights vs. federalism debate on SoulStrut I am OUT
To me, it's more a conversation about people not being able to handle that not everyone in their own country shares their views to the letter.
That whole, you better speak English or nothing at all syndrome.
I've suffered from this same problem at times in my life (I know, I know...no duh!). Not saying I'm above it completely, but too many take it way too far.
BTW, i'm a socialist who's intrigued by Ron Paul's message (or Libertarianism in general). So, i'm pro-abortion myself but i thought his solution to this extremely divisive issue (not over here though) was pretty clever.
Dude, if you really think that invoking states' rights on this issue is new, novel or "clever," you really need to educate yourself. But then again, it's not exactly surprising coming from somebody who describes himself as "pro-abortion".
And a final note: the issue really isn't that divisive; it's a controversy kept alive by a small but very vocal minority.
Hey, i'm an outsider. I don't know that much about your country's political past.
Regarding the "pro-abortion", what is wrong with that? I meant that i'm not against abortion. What did you think i meant? Please to keep in mind that i'm Dutch and that things might get lost in translation.
I agree on your last point.
Actually, I didn't realize that you were neither an American nor a native English-speaker, so I probably was a little hard on you.
Come on, man. It's not a simple issue and therefore there is no simple solution.
isn't leaving it legal and up to the woman pretty damn simple?
It would be in a lot of countries. But there's a significant portion of your society that's fiercely against it. Abortion clinic bombings, anyone?
I'm very aware of the abortion-related goings on in my society. I'm not saying abortion at its core is simple, there are all sorts of feelings/decisions/issues going on with the woman involved, but legislating it just makes it all the more complicated. Staying the fuck out peoples business is a lot simpler than laws upon laws.
As for clinic-firebomberss, they are criminals and terrorists. We already have laws and institutions for them.
BTW, i'm a socialist who's intrigued by Ron Paul's message (or Libertarianism in general). So, i'm pro-abortion myself but i thought his solution to this extremely divisive issue (not over here though) was pretty clever.
Dude, if you really think that invoking states' rights on this issue is new, novel or "clever," you really need to educate yourself. But then again, it's not exactly surprising coming from somebody who describes himself as "pro-abortion".
And a final note: the issue really isn't that divisive; it's a controversy kept alive by a small but very vocal minority.
Hey, i'm an outsider. I don't know that much about your country's political past.
Regarding the "pro-abortion", what is wrong with that? I meant that i'm not against abortion. What did you think i meant? Please to keep in mind that i'm Dutch and that things might get lost in translation.
I agree on your last point.
Actually, I didn't realize that you were neither an American nor a native English-speaker, so I probably was a little hard on you.
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Come on, man. It's not a simple issue and therefore there is no simple solution.
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exactly. and if the girl is too poor, young, or incapable of going off to another state (perhaps traveling across the country depending on where states align themselves) then she just has to suck it up and have the baby.
simple enough for me.
Dude, "states' rights" on abortion = pro life
Talk about taking the country backwards.
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I call shotgun.
isn't leaving it legal and up to the woman pretty damn simple?
I'm pro retroactive abortion.
Right, it's clearly beyond the reasoning powers of most women.
Best we leave it to state legislatures.
SIMPLE?
YEAH.
CLEVER?
HARDLY!!!!
We clearly saw with the last presidential election how divided this country is on lifestyle, religious beliefs, political leanings, etc.
So why try forcing the square peg into the circular hole?
And hell yes, I am all for Texas exercising its right to secede.
there goes 90% of all executions. see ya!
It would be in a lot of countries. But there's a significant portion of your society that's fiercely against it. Abortion clinic bombings, anyone?
If you guys get into a states' rights vs. federalism debate on SoulStrut I am OUT
Dude, if you really think that invoking states' rights on this issue is new, novel or "clever," you really need to educate yourself. But then again, it's not exactly surprising coming from somebody who describes himself as "pro-abortion".
And a final note: the issue really isn't that divisive; it's a controversy kept alive by a small but very vocal minority.
Cue Mexicans beginning to plan Harvey-proof wall....
Oh, well, we should definitely cater to those segments of society who are willing to back up their beliefs with terrorism!
It promises to be even less informed than the frequent rap discussions.
It's either D.C. or the States. To me the state seems to better represent the people.
As opposed to the elected representatives that the states send to DC?
No doubt! If only George Wallace and Ross Barnett had been permitted to fully represent the people instead of ground beneath the wheel of the totalitarian federal government!
I think we're already there, and it's already hilarious.
Hey, i'm an outsider. I don't know that much about your country's political past.
Regarding the "pro-abortion", what is wrong with that? I meant that i'm not against abortion. What did you think i meant? Please to keep in mind that i'm Dutch and that things might get lost in translation.
I agree on your last point.
To me, it's more a conversation about people not being able to handle that not everyone in their own country shares their views to the letter.
That whole, you better speak English or nothing at all syndrome.
I've suffered from this same problem at times in my life (I know, I know...no duh!). Not saying I'm above it completely, but too many take it way too far.
Paging Brian.
Actually, I didn't realize that you were neither an American nor a native English-speaker, so I probably was a little hard on you.
I'm very aware of the abortion-related goings on in my society. I'm not saying abortion at its core is simple, there are all sorts of feelings/decisions/issues going on with the woman involved, but legislating it just makes it all the more complicated. Staying the fuck out peoples business is a lot simpler than laws upon laws.
As for clinic-firebomberss, they are criminals and terrorists. We already have laws and institutions for them.
Ok, no problem.