The Cult of Obama

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  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    In the event that Roe vs. Wade would get overturned, can states make it illegal to go out of state to get an abortion? Or prosecute a doctor who lives in state but performs abortions out of state?

    these would both likely be deemed unconstitutional.

    meaning they are clearly unconstitutional but may be deemed otherwise by "conservative" judges.

    You mean like abortion?

    Huh?

    Bobo is apparently an originalist who would put even Scalia to shame; in his world, all that is not explicitly permitted by the Constitution is forbidden.

    Read my above post before you go spouting off, my man.

    I did--it's not really making you look any less foolish.

    There is an argument to be made that the "penumbras and emanations" of the Constitution don't actually afford a right to abortion. That's not at all the same thing as saying that the act itself is unconstitutional.

  • In the event that Roe vs. Wade would get overturned, can states make it illegal to go out of state to get an abortion? Or prosecute a doctor who lives in state but performs abortions out of state?

    these would both likely be deemed unconstitutional.

    meaning they are clearly unconstitutional but may be deemed otherwise by "conservative" judges.

    You mean like abortion?

    Huh?

    Bobo is apparently an originalist who would put even Scalia to shame; in his world, all that is not explicitly permitted by the Constitution is forbidden.

    Read my above post before you go spouting off, my man.

    I did--it's not really making you look any less foolish.

    There is an argument to be made that the "penumbras and emanations" of the Constitution don't actually afford a right to abortion. That's not at all the same thing as saying that the act itself is unconstitutional.

    My comparison was about the passing of laws perceived as constitutional by some yet unconstitutional by others.

    You don't think that originalists view the passing of Roe as unconstitutional?

    I guess I'm confused why you're trying to pull me into this when I was only making a joke.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    I thought Rock a libertarian? I'm surprised he'd go "wow" over the idea that abortion should ultimately reside with, you know, the pregnant person.

    I agree that the decision should lie with the woman....like I said I'm pro-choice.

    But I would hope the pregnant woman(not child) was of sound mind and made the decision somewhat earlier then say the 8th month.


    And I do think that legal abortion should have some regulations, as they do today.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    im so sure this thread is terrible

  • I wish liberals would just admit to hating the constitution. Your philosophy is anchored by the idea that the state should be employed to hammer society into this shape and that, an idea the constitution was developed to prevent. Given this it is understandable why you would hate it.

    I know you feel cowed by the symbolic power of the constitution in american politics, but id much rather you vent your animus freely than see you continuously lie about its contents and lie about those who enforce them. The lies I regularly hear and see told about judge thomas for example are incredibly viscious and do not even bother with the appearence of plasibility.

    For shame on all of you sweden loving lie machines. There is a jesus shaped hole in your life, fill it.

  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
    There is a jesus shaped hole in your life, fill it.






  • i think you prove krugman's point. "most of the venom I see is coming from supporters of Mr. Obama, who want their hero or nobody.

    should we revisit some of Mr. Krugman's articles to try and determine why most of the venom "he sees" comes from supporters of "Mr. Obama."


    Dissing his healthcare plans.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/04/opinion/04krugman.html?_r=1&scp=6&sq=krugman&st=nyt&oref=slogin


    Dissing him on the economy
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/07/opinion/07krugman.html?scp=7&sq=krugman&st=nyt

    Dissing him as being partisan
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/28/opinion/28krugman.html?scp=9&sq=krugman&st=nyt

    Dissing him as unconvinceing populist
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/02/01/opinion/01krugman.html?scp=10&sq=krugman&st=nyt




    and thats just the last few days.


    Krugman is now "worried" by the Obama "backlash" he has been pimping for.

    http://krugman.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/02/18/hype-and-glory/

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    Self Fulfilling Prophesy
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