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i got sampled!

akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
edited October 2007 in Strut Central
Devil Mcdoom just brought this to my attention:http://www.juno.co.uk/products/286550-01.htmcheck out the second track. totally ripped my "chicago"...straight jacked! oh well. i sampled stuff to make that sample. goes round in circles i suppose.
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  • KineticKinetic 3,739 Posts
    Dude. Sue those mu'fuckaz.

    Hang on - what exactly did this jazzman 12" sample from your release? I am confused.
  • street_muzikstreet_muzik 3,919 Posts
    can I hear the original?
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    Dude. Sue those mu'fuckaz.

    Hang on - what exactly did this jazzman 12" sample from your release? I am confused.

    drums and bass from the intro of chicago, i mean a fairly simple chop, but its the same thing. have you heard the track im speaking of?

    http://www.myspace.com/akompm

    listen to "chicago".
  • PABLOPABLO 1,921 Posts
    You played drums for Bill Deal & The Rhondels?
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    i did program the drums, and add the bass tones. look dude, its clearly from my recording. if they just used the same break i wouldnt have posted it.
  • bobbydeebobbydee 849 Posts
    Be proud! I think what they did with it is nice too.
  • PonyPony 2,283 Posts
    Hmmm,I don't hear it.
  • bobbydeebobbydee 849 Posts
    Their bass sounds more like an 808 tone to me (well a sine bass anyway) and is in a similar pattern but I don't think its identical.
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    Be proud! I think what they did with it is nice too.

    yeah its cool. never said i was mad. maybe flattered?
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    you guys honestly dont hear it? trust me, i worked on chicago for months. its identical. maybe youre listening to the wrong sample, its the SECOND track. heres a direct link to the mp3 of their's:

    http://mp3.juno.co.uk/MP3/SF286550-01-02-01.mp3

    either way, it doesnt matter, just thought it was interesting.
  • street_muzikstreet_muzik 3,919 Posts
    I had to listen to the two together but it sounds like it. So A-Ko. You're saying you chopped the beat and added the the bass stabs? If so it sounds like a bite. If the bass stabs are on the original break, I'd have to do more analyzing before I would go either way.

    Here lies one of the sampling conundrums.

    I've always believed in the fuck it attitude. I sample, so if someone samples me, I'm just putting back into the pot, so to speak.

    Now if I'm a broke ass, bedroom/myspace producer, and my shit ends up on a major release like that 50c audio two flip, then I can see wanting to get some of the pie. Problem is, when you sample, the owners of the publishing and stuff get that piece of pie anyway so all you can hope for is a credit, to mark on the belt and open you up to future work.

    If it's your sequence, get credit.
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    I had to listen to the two together but it sounds like it. So A-Ko. You're saying you chopped the beat and added the the bass stabs? If so it sounds like a bite. If the bass stabs are on the original break, I'd have to do more analyzing before I would go either way.

    yeah, i mean its not like im going to do anything anyway. even if they sampled some huge melodic chunk, what could i do? i sampled stuff to make my thing anyway. thats just how it works with this shit.

    the bass stabs are chopped from a general crook 45. drums are bill deal and the rhondels. id recognize the drum chops and especially the bass stabs anywhere and they definitely sampled my record. no two ways about it. they just pitched it up a half step or maybe a whole one.
  • street_muzikstreet_muzik 3,919 Posts
    I had to listen to the two together but it sounds like it. So A-Ko. You're saying you chopped the beat and added the the bass stabs? If so it sounds like a bite. If the bass stabs are on the original break, I'd have to do more analyzing before I would go either way.

    yeah, i mean its not like im going to do anything anyway. even if they sampled some huge melodic chunk, what could i do? i sampled stuff to make my thing anyway. thats just how it works with this shit.

    the bass stabs are chopped from a general crook 45. drums are bill deal and the rhondels. id recognize the bass stabs anywhere and they definitely sampled my record. no two ways about it.

    I gotta give it to A-Ko on this one. Congrats, kid.
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    i like my record better anyway!
  • UnconSciUnconSci 824 Posts
    Yea DJ A-Trak did that to one of our radiohead breaks that panzah made. He straight took our version and then added an additional drum layer on top... then threw a lil scrappy accapella on top. Like... We weren't tripping, but its frustrating when people straight take your edits of things. And what can we do.... HEY... You stole our stolen song!

    I donno tho man. This one is a close call. The bass stabs are from a different song? in the drum break? Or in a later part in the song? Your version is doper to me anywho.

    Its like robbing a drug dealer... what you gonna do? call the cops.

    Its all good tho.
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    Yea DJ A-Trak did that to one of our radiohead breaks that panzah made. He straight took our version and then added an additional drum layer on top... then threw a lil scrappy accapella on top. Like... We weren't tripping, but its frustrating when people straight take your edits of things. And what can we do.... HEY... You stole our stolen song!

    I donno tho man. This one is a close call. The bass stabs are from a different song? in the drum break? Or in a later part in the song? Your version is doper to me anywho.

    Its like robbing a drug dealer... what you gonna do? call the cops.

    Its all good tho.

    bass stabs are definitely same ones i used, same pattern with the exact same drum chops. bass stabs and drums are from 2 completely unrelated records. odds are 1 in a million that they happened to chop the drums identically, sample the same bass stab, pitch it up and down in the same pattern i did from the same 45 i did and then use it under a song where it doesnt exactly sound natural, at all...but works regardless.
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Yea DJ A-Trak did that to one of our radiohead breaks that panzah made. He straight took our version and then added an additional drum layer on top... then threw a lil scrappy accapella on top. Like... We weren't tripping, but its frustrating when people straight take your edits of things. And what can we do.... HEY... You stole our stolen song!

    I donno tho man. This one is a close call. The bass stabs are from a different song? in the drum break? Or in a later part in the song? Your version is doper to me anywho.

    Its like robbing a drug dealer... what you gonna do? call the cops.

    Its all good tho.

    bass stabs are definitely same ones i used, same pattern with the exact same drum chops. bass stabs and drums are from 2 completely unrelated records. odds are 1 in a million that they happened to chop the drums identically, sample the same bass stab, pitch it up and down in the same pattern i did from the same 45 i did and then use it under a song where it doesnt exactly sound natural, at all...but works regardless.

    There is no question whatsoever that they sampled your record.

    That shit is the epitome of weak.

    It's one thing to sample something new, but taking SOMEONE ELSES HARD WORK who chopped up, sequenced and dug for those records is straight up bullshit.



    btw - there's no DJ Tibb.

  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    im not too mad since its the simplest part of the song. the thing that bothers me is people apparently not being able to recognize how blatant it is!
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    im not too mad since its the simplest part of the song. the thing that bothers me is people apparently not being able to recognize how blatant it is!

    If it were me, I don't think I'd be too mad depending on what it was and how it was done, but still, that shit is pretty weak.
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    im not too mad since its the simplest part of the song. the thing that bothers me is people apparently not being able to recognize how blatant it is!

    If it were me, I don't think I'd be too mad depending on what it was and how it was done, but still, that shit is pretty weak.

    true. different people have different personal rules when it comes to sampling i guess. this is about as far away from something i'd even think of doing as somebody could get.

    plenty of people have used those drums, and i heard the general crook bass i used on some track rjd2 produced (after i finished chicago, mind you). its not an issue with WHAT they sampled, i could care less about that, but why sample my beat that already utilizes the samples?
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    Hold up - Tib is real, they just spelled his name wrong on the record. Here's your beatbiter:

    http://www.myspace.com/speenoakadjtib

    (His other tracks are a mess)

    Its particularly odd that this is the official remix of a shit-rare Curtis cover thats reished on the A (and, unfortunately, several of us will probably have to buy it for this reason). He just grafted your track to the OG from the bit that I listened to.
  • KineticKinetic 3,739 Posts
    I just added dude to my friends!

    So... should I post a scan of Ako's Chicago 45 and ask if he's into this kind of music?
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    hahaha that would be funny. maybe i should add him on myspace!
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    hahaha that would be funny. maybe i should add him on myspace!

    I half-expected to see you in his friends already...
  • CinisterCeeCinisterCee 863 Posts
    Hold up - Tib is real, they just spelled his name wrong on the record. Here's your beatbiter:

    http://www.myspace.com/speenoakadjtib

  • francislaifrancislai 371 Posts
    i like my record better anyway!

    the ultimate form of flattery.

    DAMN where was this tune last summer? was i sleeping?
  • KineticKinetic 3,739 Posts
    Yeah... also ask him if he's a fan of MC Shan!
  • UnconSciUnconSci 824 Posts
    Yea I wouldn't be suprised if theres a whole school of producers who just come through soul strut and download and sample shit you guys upload here.
  • francislaifrancislai 371 Posts


    bass stabs are definitely same ones i used, same pattern with the exact same drum chops. bass stabs and drums are from 2 completely unrelated records. odds are 1 in a million that they happened to chop the drums identically, sample the same bass stab, pitch it up and down in the same pattern i did from the same 45 i did and then use it under a song where it doesnt exactly sound natural, at all...but works regardless.

    There is no question whatsoever that they sampled your record.

    That shit is the epitome of GANGSTER
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    i love it i must admit. AKO tune is real good, a great beat, but more of a cut'n'paste b boy type thing. the jazzman tune is a totally different vibe. they would actually probably go good back to back??
  • akoako https://soundcloud.com/a-ko 3,419 Posts
    hahaha that would be funny. maybe i should add him on myspace!

    I half-expected to see you in his friends already...

    you weren't wrong to, apparently we're already friends on myspace. i added a comment on his page...haha
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