GN'R LIES (slept on related)
mylatency
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Norm Hopper brought this one to my attention one night over screwdrivers a few weeks ago. Pretty much the greatest rock album of the late 80s. You must dealhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G_N'_R_Lies
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"I used to love her..."
Dude, that's not even the greatest GnR album of the late 80s. Couple of good tunes, yes, otherwise you could just have kept sleeping.
Now these guys, they are slept on for 80s hard rock:
while they probably never wrote a single track as good as anything on 'Appetite', they were pretty great if you like that kinda glam hard rock.
I take umbrage with that. I have been a fan since 1988 or so, I saw a poster for 'Appetite' and decided I had to hear it. Then of course it was everywhere but I still ride for that era of GnR. Axl had of the most versatile recording voices in rock for a brief period of time....they really had the world by the tail til they blew it.
good point.
Most of my friends and I agree on GNR first being a huge band followed by being a good punchline. The revival I'm talking about is re-evaluating their music as something good when, looking back, it was nothing more than more bombastic bar rock than had previously been attempted (ever heard of restraint?). Do any of us consider Axl's ballads moving? They're straight comedy!
Dolphins and oil tankers.
I didn't even know this was an album, BTW, probably because the first half is so awful. I obviously knew all the words to the singles back in the day, though.
When multiball is lit, it plays "Mr. Brownstone" ...
and when multiball is engaged, it plays an original
song they actually recorded just for the game, with
Axl singing "down ... down ... down ... goiiing dowwwn!"
Slash designed it himself, as he's a huge pinball junkie.
You sound mad young, as usual. I think it would be safe to assume that most of your friends are young as well.
I was a huge fan of LIES when it was new, but to say that it outshines APPETITE (and at least a few other rock albums of the late 80s) is ludicrous. The live stuff is pretty good for mid-80s glam and I will always have a soft spot for "Patience" but this record is a time capsule as far as I'm concerned...
I suppose it is, as usual, a matter of taste, but I think that the late-80s were one of the worst eras in mainstream rock considering how quickly Nirvana made all of that crap irrelevant.
Guns n' Roses will ALWAYS be > Nirvana
Once again, Waxidermy may need to consult you on this.
Apples and oranges.
Lies can't hold a candle to Appetite.
If you threw the complete works of Zeppelin, the Stones, the NY Dolls, the Pistols and Aerosmith into a blender, and garnished the resultant sludge with the dregs of Motley Crue's wardrobe, you'd have Guns 'n' Roses. You must deal.
I used to know this cat that would overzealously sing along with some of the offending lines in this song, I thought and still think he is an asshole.
It caused them a fair bit of trouble IIRC, but the excuse they gave was that Axl Rose was supposedly writing/singing in the third person, and besides, rock 'n' roll is all about offending people, sticking it to the man, etc, so they more or less got away without having it thrown back in their faces every time they showed themselves in public. Unlike certain artists.
As everybody knows, rappers are too stupid to grasp concepts like third-person narratives, whether they be dramatic, objective or whatever. Therefore when, for example, the Clipse talk about drug-dealing on record, the listener can be secure in the knowledge that they are describing their actual day-to-day experience, and, thanks to the "keepin' it real" defence, moral positions can be taken, sweeping generalisations made and poorly-informed prejudices upheld without the inconvenience of having to think too hard about context, or what the writer in question might be trying to say.
I like Patience when I'm drunk and sometimes not.
Game, set, and match
G-n-F'n-R =
And there's no way that Nirvana made any metal irrelavent as long as there was Alice by Chains right by their side proving your point moot.
What else could they possibly be?
I used to like the Lies LP. I haven't listened to it forever.
I also like Velvet Revolver
It's good music.
Nevertheless, if you want to consider them a heavy metal band, I think they outlasted other metal bands because a) they came from the same scene as Nirvana and b) they weren't peddling the same derivative, heavy shit that bands like GNR, Poison, Def Leppard, etc. were doing towards the end.
u gotta be kidding.
Def Lep is 10 times more innovative than Alice n' Chains.
Brian Eno said so.
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Haha! Half of Brian Eno's catalogue is unlistenable, as creative as it is.
Who else sounded like Alice in Chains to you? They were new to me at the time.
Alice n' Chains just sounds like generic stompy growling metal to me - not immitative of any specific band, but not blazing new trails either.
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