Jan 2nd, Sixers vs. Nuggets in Denver. Word. Everyone will be active on their new teams by then, right?
As a Philly fan, a long time Philly fan, i am pretty excited about this. All i care about is the games being exciting and they certainly haven't been. I have liked Andre Miller for a couple of seasons now and think he's going to set up our offense for good looks.
The draft pick situation is probably what's the most exciting and from a mass fan approval standpoint i think it could get an obviously impatient Philly crowd more interested in the rebuilding aspect of this move.
What do you folks think about AI's first game back in Philly...standing O or boo's? I think he'll get an ovation the first time back. But from there he could turn into a villian just like anyone else.
woah, that was wierd. Did you just somehow retract your post Drewn?
Yeah, I let it go. I still think they have just as good a chance as anyone else to come out the West now, though.
What do you folks think about AI's first game back in Philly...standing O or boo's? I think he'll get an ovation the first time back. But from there he could turn into a villian just like anyone else.
Fans here have a great appreciation for what Iverson meant to this city. I haven't heard much discontent at all from people about him being traded, actually. Obviously folks don't want to see him go, but they know it's BEEN time to move on. I think definite standing ovation on his return to Philly and then all reaction will be in the spirit of competition, not in spite of his departure.
Having two Top Ten scorers has not been very successful in the last 30 years as far as winning Playoffs/Championships go.
With the exception of Kobe/Shaq here's what it looks like
Mid-90's Detroit - Jerry Stackhouse & Grant Hill - Missed Playoffs '91-'92 Golden State - Chris Mullin & Tim Hardaway - Lost in 1st Round '86 - Boston - Kevin McHale & Larry Bird - Lost in Finals Early 80's Denver Kiki Vandeweghe & Alex English (Were the #1 & #2 scorers in the NBA) Lost in 2nd Round and lost in the First round the following year.
'81-'82 - Denver Alex English & Dan Issel - Lost in 1st Round
I do not expect to see a title in Denver any time soon with AI/Melo.
Having two Top Ten scorers has not been very successful in the last 30 years as far as winning Playoffs/Championships go.
With the exception of Kobe/Shaq here's what it looks like
Mid-90's Detroit - Jerry Stackhouse & Grant Hill - Missed Playoffs '91-'92 Golden State - Chris Mullin & Tim Hardaway - Lost in 1st Round '86 - Boston - Kevin McHale & Larry Bird - Lost in Finals Early 80's Denver Kiki Vandeweghe & Alex English (Were the #1 & #2 scorers in the NBA) Lost in 2nd Round and lost in the First round the following year.
'81-'82 - Denver Alex English & Dan Issel - Lost in 1st Round
I do not expect to see a title in Denver any time soon with AI/Melo.
Having two Top Ten scorers has not been very successful in the last 30 years as far as winning Playoffs/Championships go.
With the exception of Kobe/Shaq here's what it looks like
Mid-90's Detroit - Jerry Stackhouse & Grant Hill - Missed Playoffs '91-'92 Golden State - Chris Mullin & Tim Hardaway - Lost in 1st Round '86 - Boston - Kevin McHale & Larry Bird - Lost in Finals Early 80's Denver Kiki Vandeweghe & Alex English (Were the #1 & #2 scorers in the NBA) Lost in 2nd Round and lost in the First round the following year.
'81-'82 - Denver Alex English & Dan Issel - Lost in 1st Round
I do not expect to see a title in Denver any time soon with AI/Melo.
I don't even think the owners are either. There are far greater rewards in the NBA for owners, players, and all others associated, besides winning championships; most notably money.
Yea, I was gonna compile a similar list, but
One-man teams are the easiest to defend; two-man teams are just as easy.
There are far greater rewards in the NBA for owners, players, and all others associated, besides winning championships;
Haha, GTFOHWTB. You are kidding yourself if you think any player/coach/owner would rather have another X million dollars over winning a championship. By that rationale, AI would have been perfectly content with the 76ers for the rest of his career raking in 18 million dollars a year and losing.
As far as the Nuggets not making it to the Finals, nobody is predicting that they will this year. But I'll be laughing my ass off if they do! Nobody ever thought the Heat and Mavs would be in the finals last year...
Next year is another story.
And this, this was the funniest thing I've read all day so far:
One-man teams are the easiest to defend; two-man teams are just as easy.
Haha, again, plaese to GTFOHWTBS. AI and Melo will be as easy to stop as Kobe lakers without Shaq? Haha nope. You're dreamin'. Melo alone gets tripled every game and when he isn't triple teamed, he's doubled. Always. AI will be treated the same. You got a team with 7 players or some shit? I don't see how you equate stopping these two to being "easy".
You might be able to win with only 3 of them if the talent is that much better than the rest of the league.....but you can NEVER win a championship with just 2 of them.
You might be able to win with only 3 of them if the talent is that much better than the rest of the league.....but you can NEVER win a championship with just 2 of them.
Rock, you sure know your basketball! A+
Gb Diggs, you're missing my points completely. 2-man teams are limited in their potential. Now let that sink in.
If I were to build a championship franchise, I'd pick up somebody like Deron Williams or Devin Harris, and maybe a Prince or Okafor.
You might be able to win with only 3 of them if the talent is that much better than the rest of the league.....but you can NEVER win a championship with just 2 of them.
Rock, you sure know your basketball! A+
Gb Diggs, you're missing my points completely. 2-man teams are limited in their potential. Now let that sink in.
Were Shaq and Kobe an anomaly in the 2-man team theory?
What about Shaq and Wade? Would you consider that a 2-man team?
You might be able to win with only 3 of them if the talent is that much better than the rest of the league.....but you can NEVER win a championship with just 2 of them.
Rock, you sure know your basketball! A+
Gb Diggs, you're missing my points completely. 2-man teams are limited in their potential. Now let that sink in.
Were Shaq and Kobe an anomaly in the 2-man team theory?
What about Shaq and Wade? Would you consider that a 2-man team?
Shaq and Kobe were dominant, so yes they were an anomaly. That and they had unparalled support from Fisher, Horry, and Fox.
Shaq and Wade, when they won their ring, was mostly Wade against the Pistons. And Wade simply put on one of the most incredible displays of skill and intensity in recent playoff history.
anyone see the snippet from the AI-stephen a interview? they just played it @ halftime of cavs-nets...
stephen a: what do you think of billy king?
[pause]
[...pause]
[seriously 30 second pause]
ai: someone i used to work for.
seriously, looking forward to some gems in that one later on. im not a big fan of your boy, yuichi, but he can coax crazy material from some dudes.
This schitt will be historic. Steven A is that dude. And by the way: I am the Steven A of SoulStrut.
this interview was great. word assocation was the highlight:
Stephen A: Allen Iverson AI: the basketball player or the person? Stephen A: Both AI: the person, a husband, a father, a friend, misunderstood. the player, a killer.
anyone see the snippet from the AI-stephen a interview? they just played it @ halftime of cavs-nets...
stephen a: what do you think of billy king?
[pause]
[...pause]
[seriously 30 second pause]
ai: someone i used to work for.
seriously, looking forward to some gems in that one later on. im not a big fan of your boy, yuichi, but he can coax crazy material from some dudes.
This schitt will be historic. Steven A is that dude. And by the way: I am the Steven A of SoulStrut.
this interview was great. word assocation was the highlight:
Stephen A: Allen Iverson AI: the basketball player or the person? Stephen A: Both AI: the person, a husband, a father, a friend, misunderstood. the player, a killer.
anyone see the snippet from the AI-stephen a interview? they just played it @ halftime of cavs-nets...
stephen a: what do you think of billy king?
[pause]
[...pause]
[seriously 30 second pause]
ai: someone i used to work for.
seriously, looking forward to some gems in that one later on. im not a big fan of your boy, yuichi, but he can coax crazy material from some dudes.
This schitt will be historic. Steven A is that dude. And by the way: I am the Steven A of SoulStrut.
this interview was great. word assocation was the highlight:
Stephen A: Allen Iverson AI: the basketball player or the person? Stephen A: Both AI: the person, a husband, a father, a friend, misunderstood. the player, a killer.
Carnelo Anthony?
Killer
Allen Iverson and Carmelo Anthony together?
Killer duo.
Well, that duo will certainly kill the Nuggets' chemistry and assist totals!
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As a Philly fan, a long time Philly fan, i am pretty excited about this. All i care about is the games being exciting and they certainly haven't been. I have liked Andre Miller for a couple of seasons now and think he's going to set up our offense for good looks.
The draft pick situation is probably what's the most exciting and from a mass fan approval standpoint i think it could get an obviously impatient Philly crowd more interested in the rebuilding aspect of this move.
What do you folks think about AI's first game back in Philly...standing O or boo's? I think he'll get an ovation the first time back. But from there he could turn into a villian just like anyone else.
Yeah, I let it go. I still think they have just as good a chance as anyone else to come out the West now, though.
Fans here have a great appreciation for what Iverson meant to this city. I haven't heard much discontent at all from people about him being traded, actually. Obviously folks don't want to see him go, but they know it's BEEN time to move on. I think definite standing ovation on his return to Philly and then all reaction will be in the spirit of competition, not in spite of his departure.
With the exception of Kobe/Shaq here's what it looks like
Mid-90's Detroit - Jerry Stackhouse & Grant Hill - Missed Playoffs
'91-'92 Golden State - Chris Mullin & Tim Hardaway - Lost in 1st Round
'86 - Boston - Kevin McHale & Larry Bird - Lost in Finals
Early 80's Denver Kiki Vandeweghe & Alex English (Were the #1 & #2 scorers in the NBA) Lost in 2nd Round and lost in the First round the following year.
'81-'82 - Denver Alex English & Dan Issel - Lost in 1st Round
I do not expect to see a title in Denver any time soon with AI/Melo.
Negative Nancy.
I don't even think the owners are either. There are far greater rewards in the NBA for owners, players, and all others associated, besides winning championships; most notably money.
Yea, I was gonna compile a similar list, but
One-man teams are the easiest to defend; two-man teams are just as easy.
Haha, GTFOHWTB. You are kidding yourself if you think any player/coach/owner would rather have another X million dollars over winning a championship. By that rationale, AI would have been perfectly content with the 76ers for the rest of his career raking in 18 million dollars a year and losing.
As far as the Nuggets not making it to the Finals, nobody is predicting that they will this year. But I'll be laughing my ass off if they do! Nobody ever thought the Heat and Mavs would be in the finals last year...
Next year is another story.
And this, this was the funniest thing I've read all day so far:
Haha, again, plaese to GTFOHWTBS. AI and Melo will be as easy to stop as Kobe lakers without Shaq? Haha nope. You're dreamin'. Melo alone gets tripled every game and when he isn't triple teamed, he's doubled. Always. AI will be treated the same. You got a team with 7 players or some shit? I don't see how you equate stopping these two to being "easy".
Talent
Discipline/Focus
Fundamentals/Coaching
Chemistry
You might be able to win with only 3 of them if the talent is that much better than the rest of the league.....but you can NEVER win a championship with just 2 of them.
Rock, you sure know your basketball! A+
Gb Diggs, you're missing my points completely. 2-man teams are limited in their potential. Now let that sink in.
If I were to build a championship franchise, I'd pick up somebody like Deron Williams or Devin Harris, and maybe a Prince or Okafor.
You should let George Karl know this because I don't think he has any experience with team building.
Were Shaq and Kobe an anomaly in the 2-man team theory?
What about Shaq and Wade? Would you consider that a 2-man team?
Shaq and Kobe were dominant, so yes they were an anomaly. That and they had unparalled support from Fisher, Horry, and Fox.
Shaq and Wade, when they won their ring, was mostly Wade against the Pistons. And Wade simply put on one of the most incredible displays of skill and intensity in recent playoff history.
stephen a: what do you think of billy king?
[pause]
[...pause]
[seriously 30 second pause]
ai: someone i used to work for.
seriously, looking forward to some gems in that one later on. im not a big fan of your boy, yuichi, but he can coax crazy material from some dudes.
This schitt will be historic. Steven A is that dude. And by the way: I am the Steven A of SoulStrut.
He's BEEN dude. For like 6 or 7 years now.
this interview was great. word assocation was the highlight:
Stephen A: Allen Iverson
AI: the basketball player or the person?
Stephen A: Both
AI: the person, a husband, a father, a friend, misunderstood. the player, a killer.
Carnelo Anthony?
Killer
Allen Iverson and Carmelo Anthony together?
Killer duo.
Well, that duo will certainly kill the Nuggets' chemistry and assist totals!