i think "The Outsider" is pretty good actually
Mongo_Slade
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Man, based on the advance word and the tracks that leaked or got promo'd, I was fearing a belly-flop of Idlewild proportions, but I picked DJ Shadow's The Outsider today and it's sounding pretty damn good to me.The sequencing is weird, so some of the stylistic shifts seem a lot harsher than they could've been, but there are some slappers on there ("Turf Dancing", "Dat's My Part"), some new takes on the old atmospheric shit ("Triplicate") and I think even the soft-hands shit ("You Made It") will probably grow on me. In other words, he tried some new shit and it sounds to me like he pulled it off.
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but yeh, i was worried it wouldn't have anything for me originally.
that shit is completely bazookas. is it on a 12"?
nah. there was a shadow-authorized bootleg 12" of "3 Freaks" but not of the remix, although it's been floating around the web since march and appears on the CD.
or is there...?
There is definitely an official white label of the original version and now it looks like the remix has received the offical white label treatment too. It's got the original on the A-side and the remix, with acapella on the B-side. I live in the bay and this was given to me by a record store employee, it wasn't hitting the shelves. He asked me if I wanted one and I said "uhh, ok."
who are the mc's on that one ?
droop-e rhymes on it, too. unfortunately.
Dude sounds ass hurt.....
In a society that's become obsessed with rim size, chains hanging low and shiny mouthpieces, it is the TRUE artist's responsibility to act as a shepherd of sorts and steer the sheep in the right direction. you could say i've been a sheep for years and my shepherds have been cats like coldcut, prefuse 73, dj krush, and yes, even Josh Davis. (aka dj shadow)
i look to these folks and many others to show me the FUTURE of music. not only does the Outsider (shadow's latest album) fail to show us the future, it's almost behind the times.
as a dj and producer who uses samples, i find comfort in the sound of record static or a touch of surface noise. mainstream music today has become so grossly overproduced and polished, i can't find comfort in it outside of a club situation. and so it goes with the outsider. i dare you to find a hint of the comfort i speak of. there's no sequel to 'midnight in a perfect world' or 'building steam.' there isn't even a hint of the shadow that we've all come to know and love.
remember 'influx' and all it's sampling to do with revolution and a need for change? that's what i thought all of this was about: REVOLUTION! shadow is proving that he doesn't give a rat's ass about any of us or our dreams of a revolution.(be it musical or otherwise) the soundtrack to the revolution will not have guest appearances by keak tha sneak or nump or any of the other hyphy artists on the Outsider. (at least i pray it doesn't) and after watching one of my greatest heroes (shadow) sell his white ass out, i'm not sure there's even a revolution to be had anymore.
when i said that i've been in a depression since i first heard the album, i wasn't kidding. it's like gravity being reversed or finding out the world isn't flat, or worse yet, Santa isn't real! i take this shit seriously. i can't just toss the album to the side and pass it off as a phase or simply a mis-step on shadow's part. this is the kind of thing that makes me want to re-evaluate what i am striving for as an artist. i thought things were a certain way. now i see that is simply not the case. i just want to let the healing begin.
now, everytime a beat up coup de ville with 70 inch rims and 50 inch subwoofers drives past blaring the latest dumbed down commercial rap beat with an angry rapper (who has no idea what he's even angry at) yelling over the top about nothing pertinent to my life, i'll wonder if it's dj shadow's latest joint.
1 and 1/2 stars!
"The Love I Saw In You (Was Just An Interpolation)"
b/w
"Un-Quantize My Heart"
Jesus.
Can we get an "OVER THE TOP" graemlin, plaese?
now, everytime a beat up coup de ville with 70 inch rims and 50 inch subwoofers drives past blaring the latest dumbed down commercial rap beat with an angry rapper (who has no idea what he's even angry at) yelling over the top about nothing pertinent to my life, i'll wonder if it's dj shadow's latest joint.
For me, this puts ill drama stabs in a whole new light.
2). You sound like an ass-hurt fanboy
3). He's playing himself majorly right now.
p.s.
you said "Phantom Menance". That shit is even too nerdy for me.
I don't think it's the fact that it's different, it's the fact tht he has "ALL THESE DUMB DOWN AND IGNORANT RAPPERS ON IT". I remember that last album had like 80's new-wave shit on it.
so you're a fanboy for hating that he changed his style up and a fanboy for blindly following his new direction as far as i can work out. in fact any opinion on shadow = fanboy.
P.S (insert extra diss for good measure)
to the casual music fan it's not at all a shock, not surprisingly.
I played it for my twenty-something, club going sister. Her reaction when she heard it was first, "Is This The Guy Who does the do do do oo do do doo song (Building Steam With A Grain Of Salt), I Love That Song." immediately followed by, "You Can't Lose With A Beat Like This! (Turf Dancing)"
You sound like an ass-hurt fanboy.
This post is great. Every word of it.