Does Ras Kass get it now?

haze25haze25 759 Posts
edited July 2006 in Strut Central
anyone listen to his last 2 mix cd's? it seems like he understands how to write an enjoyable hip hop record now. it's like his last jail trip was the best thing that happened to dude.he balances his underground shit w/ fun ignorant rap.and imo his track "shine" is one of the best hip hop records in recent memory, in it he talks about his prison stint with crazy detail.jacks the best southern beats on "jackin the dirrrty" got heat from jake one and sounded good beside busta and odb on a dre track.but then he also jacked a jeezy beat and put talib on it and got a terrible track from 9th wonder and made it into a song called "hit me on my blackberry" hope he comes through on the album.
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  • hertzhoghertzhog 865 Posts
    I'll be checking for it, but I'm definitely not holding my breath. I wasn't too impressed by those mix CD's.

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    I need to check those CDs. He killed it at the Dead Prez show we did out here.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Are you implying that his Soul On Ice LP wasn't the shit and then some? I know that there are many out there that thought it was lackluster. I find such people to be out of their Reasonable Doubt-worshipping gourds.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Soul On Ice was a big phat juicy terd of a record.

    There's one crazy line on there though...

    When dude says

    Let freedom ring with a buckshot, but not just yet
    First we need to truly understand the nature of the threat
    And a pale man walks in the threshold of darkness
    Roughly 20,000 years ago the first humans evolved
    with the phenotypical trait, genetic recessive
    Blue eyes, blonde hair and white skin
    Albinism apparently was a sin to the original man, Africans
    So the mutants traveled North of the equator
    Called Europeans later, the first race haters
    So here's the Devil's alpha to the beta
    Cause history's best qualified to teach one
    Quoting German philosopher Schopenhauer
    "Every white man is a faded or a bleached one"
    Migration created further mutation
    Genetic drifts, evolution through recombination
    Adaptation to the climate
    As the Caucus Mountain man reverted to that of a primate
    Savage Neanderthals, until the late Paleolithic age
    That's when the Black Grimaldi man came
    With the symbol of the dragon, fire and art
    Check cave paintings in France and Spain to the Venus of Willendorf
    Around 2000 B.C. Southern Russians migrate in small units
    Those who travel West populated Europe
    Those who went East settled in Iran, known as Aryans
    1500 B.C. some crossed the Khyber Pass into India and
    created Hinduism, the first caste system, the origins of racism
    A white dot on the forehead meant elite
    The black dot - defeat; untrustable, untouchables
    They wrote the holy Vedas in Sanskrit
    That's the language that created Greek, German, Latin and English
    Now the Minoans around 2000 B.C.
    Starts on the island of Crete, in the Agean Sea
    The Greek culture begins Western Civilization
    But "Western Civilization" means "White Domination"
    Myceneans learned from Kemet, called Egypt in Greek
    It existed since at least 3000 B.C.
    Creatin geometry and astronomy
    This knowledge influenced Plato, Socrates and Hippocrates
    Cause Imhotep, the real real father of medicine
    Was worshiped in Greece and Rome in the form of a Black African
    The word Africa comes from the Greek "Aphrike"
    meaning "without cold"; the word philosophy means "love of knowledge"
    Stole from first man, Greek power expands
    The first Greek fraternities band
    The word gymnasium is Greek for "naked"
    This was the place where adolescent boys were educated, and molested
    This was accepted because Greek culture was homosexual
    For example, Sappho trained girls on the island of Lesbos
    Hence, the word lesbian (Ay let these dumb motherfuckers know)
    December 25th, the birth of Saturn
    A homosexual god, now check the historical pattern
    December 25, now thought the birth of Christ
    Was Saturnalia, when men got drunk,
    fucked each other then beat their wife
    Fact is, it was still practiced, til they called it Christmas
    So put a gerbil on your Christmas list
    The Hellenistic Era, Alexander the Great
    Conquers all the way to India leavin four successor states
    By the Fifth century B.C., R.O.M.E.
    succeeds to be the conqueror of Egypt and Greece
    But had the threat of the Black Phoenicians in Sicily
    The Punic Wars began 264 B.C.
    The Black general Hannibal and Carthaginian Peace
    In 146 B.C. Carthage fell after a six-month siege
    Rome sold every citizen to slavery
    The first genocide of history
    And more bisexuality in sight; Julius Caesar was known as
    "every woman's husband and every man's wife" (BEOTCH!)
    Spartacus Revolt, a slave rebellion that lost
    Where 6,000 slaves was nailed on a cross
    Cross? Aw, shit! Jesus Christ! Time for some-act-right
    Christians get your facts right
    Cause Christ was not his name
    That's Greek for "One who is anointed"
    Yoshua Ben Yosef was his name, do Christians know this?
    So who do you praise, do you know his name?
    Or do you do this in vain?
    Accepting the religion they gave slaves to behave
    Peep the description of historian Josephus
    "Short, dark, with an underdeveloped beard was Jesus"
    He had the Romans fearing revolution
    The solution was to take him to court and falsely accuse him
    After being murdered by Pilate how can it be
    these same white Romans established Christianity
    Constantine would later see the cross in a dream
    In his vision, it read "En Hawk Signo Wonka":
    "In this sign we conquer" - Manifest Destiny
    In 325 he convened the Nicean Creed
    And separated god into three
    Decided Jesus was born on December 25th
    and raised then on the third day is a myth
    Plus to deceive us
    Commissioned Michelangelo to paint white pictures of Jesus
    He used his aunt, uncle, and nephew
    Subconsciously that affects you
    It makes you put white people closer to God
    (Yo, 'The Man' got game like a motherfucker!)
    True indeed, fuck it, Jihad
    In the eight century Muslims conquered
    Spain, Portugal and France and controlled it for 700 years
    They never mention this in history class
    cause o'fays are threatened when you get the real lesson
    Moors from Baghdad, Turkey threatened European Christians
    Meaning, the white way of life; hence the Crusades for Christ
    On November 25th, 1491
    Santiago defeats the last Muslim stronghold, Grenada
    King Ferdinand gave thanks to God for victory
    And the Pope of Rome and declared this date to forever be
    A day of "Thanksgiving" for all European Christians

    .. Now listen, when you celebrate "Thanksgiving"
    What you are actually celebratin
    is the proclamation of the Pope of Rome
    Who later, in league with Queen Isabella
    sent Cardinal Ximenos to Spain
    to murder any blacks that resisted Christianity
    These Moors, these black men and women
    were from Baghdad, Turkey
    And today, you eat the turkey, for your "Thanksgiving" day
    as the European Powers destroyed the Turkeys
    Who were the forefathers of your mothers and fathers
    Now fight the power, you bitch-ass niggaz!

    Now around this time, Whites started callings us Negroes
    That's Spanish for black object meaning we're not really people
    but property, and the triangle trade begins - they seize us
    Queen Elizabeth sends the first slaves on a ship named Jesus
    Stealin land from the indigenous natives
    Gave them alcohol to keep the Red Man intoxicated
    Whites claim they had to civilize these pagan animals
    But up until 1848 there's documented cases
    of whites bein the savage cannibals, eatin Indians
    In 1992, it's Jeffery Dahmer
    They slaughtered a whole race with guns
    Drugs, priests and nuns
    1763, the first demonic tactic of biological warfare
    As tokens of peace, Sir Jeffery Amherst
    passed out clothin and blankets to the Indian community
    Infested with small pox, knowin they had no immunity
    Today it's AIDS, you best believe it's man made
    Cause ain't a damn thing changed.. let me explain
    Now since people of color are genetically dominant
    and Caucasoids are genetically recessive
    and Whites expect to be predominant, meaning survive as a race then
    they simply must, take precautions
    That's why they're worried about their future now
    Cuz by 2050, almost all the Earth's population
    will be brown, then black, so understandin that, whites counterreact
    (I'm sayin.. man.. them fools
    ain't nothin but a teaspoon of milk in the world color majority)
    So they created a system
    to force blacks into an unnatural position
    That re-enforces the position of natural inferiority
    In addition, created guns and developed the ethnocentric view
    that God justifies every fuckin thing they do
    Condition people to perceive whites' culture as civilized
    and every other culture considered primitive - not true!
    Racism is the system of racial subjugation against nonwhites
    in every areas of human relation
    Entertainment, education, labor, politics
    Law, religion, sex, war and economics
    See blacks were 3/5ths of a man with tax purposes intended
    You think you're Afro-American?
    You're a 14th amendment and a good nigga
    Jews don't salute the fuckin swastika
    but niggaz pledge allegiance to the flag that accosted ya
    They never teach about the break of islands like Jamaica
    But before slaves came here whites would take a
    pregnant women, hang her from a tree by her toes
    Slice her stomach with a knife
    and let the unborn baby fall to the flo'
    And stop an unborn child in front of all the slaves
    to inbreed fear, so they'd be scared and behave
    and not rebel more
    Understand all whites must be perceived as potential predators
    I paraphrase historian Ishakamusa Barashango
    "Understand that regardless of the lofty ideas ingraved on paper
    in such documents as the Constitution or Declaration
    the basic nature.. of the European American white man
    remains virtually unchanged".. so check
    This is the nature of the threat










    I'm just really feeling him. on that.

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    Soul On Ice was a big phat juicy terd of a record.




    this was a great record IMO. agree to disagree.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Well yeah I can agree to disagree on that. But the above posted song has to be one of the most funny sad moments in the last 10 years of rap.

    I never really felt anything Ras Kass did. Dude was nasty but I never dug any song by him other than "Won't Catch Me Runnin'"

  • 33thirdcom33thirdcom 2,049 Posts
    Yeh I can see why people don't like him. Think its more of a like or dislike situation because of alot of his subject matter. Though I don't know anyone that doesn't think he is dope as an MC.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    no it's def not his subject matter (although I thought Nature Of The Threat and some of the more "jiggy" type songs were real bad looks). I just thought dude never really put good songs together.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    But the above posted song has to be one of the most funny sad moments in the last 10 years of rap.

    How is it "funny sad"? Because his research isn't 100% accurate?

    Whatever makes you feel superior...

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    Nature of the Threat is like the Helen of Troy of internet rap message boards, its the song that launched 1000 racism arguments.

  • AaronAaron 977 Posts
    Man, why do you always fly off the handle?

    If you can't see how funny sad that song is...

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Oh i don't feel superior. As to why it's funny sad:

    Now listen, when you celebrate "Thanksgiving"
    What you are actually celebratin
    is the proclamation of the Pope of Rome
    Who later, in league with Queen Isabella
    sent Cardinal Ximenos to Spain
    to murder any blacks that resisted Christianity
    These Moors, these black men and women
    were from Baghdad, Turkey
    And today, you eat the turkey, for your "Thanksgiving" day
    as the European Powers destroyed the Turkeys






    So put a gerbil on your Christmas list

  • AaronAaron 977 Posts
    JP, I think you really need to "peep the description of historian Josephus."

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Man, why do you always fly off the handle?

    If you can't see how funny sad that song is...

    I'm not the one belittling someone's work of art here.

    To me, it's not "funny sad" in the slightest.

    Maybe Ras didn't meet academic standards with his rant, but that's small potatoes compared to the LOUD AND CLEAR message that he was able to deliver.

    Do y'all think that there isn't a shared psyche that backs shared racism?

    Seriously, what are y'all trying to protect by attempting to shoot such petty holes through Ras's methodolgy?

    The sanctity of Thanksgiving???

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    son I am just saying the song is wack.

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts
    anyone listen to his last 2 mix cd's?
    What's the name of the cd's?

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    son I am just saying the song is wack.

    Alright, "Kemetic Sun"...whatever you say.

  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    son I am just saying the song is wack.

    Alright, "Kemetic Sun"...whatever you say.


    LOL!

  • noznoz 3,625 Posts
    Well yeah I can agree to disagree on that. But the above posted song has to be one of the most funny sad moments in the last 10 years of rap.

    YOU SOUNDIN REAL WHITE!

  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts

    I never really felt anything Ras Kass did. Dude was nasty but I never dug any song by him other than "Won't Catch Me Runnin'"

    no "understandable smooth"???? i always dug that track, and his blatant abuse of the Anita Baker sample was kinda gangsta (with my understanding that she is not one to let rappers use her music for samples).

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    son I am just saying the song is wack.

    Alright, "Kemetic Sun"...whatever you say.

    Listen homie, if you want to diss my old work that is cool but you should say that shit to my face next time you're buying weed off my man.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    son I am just saying the song is wack.

    Alright, "Kemetic Sun"...whatever you say.

    Listen homie, if you want to diss my old work that is cool but you should say that shit to my face next time you're buying weed off my man.

    I ain't even dissing your work. I'm dissing you for growing up to be NOT ABOUT SHIT.

  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts

    I never really felt anything Ras Kass did. Dude was nasty but I never dug any song by him other than "Won't Catch Me Runnin'"

    no "understandable smooth"???? i always dug that track, and his blatant abuse of the Anita Baker sample was kinda gangsta (with my understanding that she is not one to let rappers use her music for samples).

    I liked his verse on that old lyricist lounge track with O.C. and Spinna (AYE MAMI TO FUNDIO ES MUY GRANDE....IM STRIP SEARCHED BITCHES LIKE SECURITY AT THE PALLADIUM....AT THE GOLD LADY HAVING STRIPPERS SWALLLOW MY BABIES).

    CALL MEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

  • ayresayres 1,452 Posts
    I like that one Golden State Warriors joint, too.

  • jleejlee 1,539 Posts

    I ain't even dissing your work. I'm dissing you for growing up to be NOT ABOUT SHIT.

    see Johnny...if only your 6th grade math teacher would have made you take out your gold grillz you could possibly be about some shitt...

    but luck next time dude.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Wow, this thread...



    C'MON RALPH, RASS KASS IS FOR THE CHILRENS!


  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    son I am just saying the song is wack.

    Alright, "Kemetic Sun"...whatever you say.

    Listen homie, if you want to diss my old work that is cool but you should say that shit to my face next time you're buying weed off my man.

    I ain't even dissing your work. I'm dissing you for growing up to be NOT ABOUT SHIT.

    lol... son I own a business. Are you mad I don't make underground tapes anymore?

  • anyone listen to his last 2 mix cd's?
    What's the name of the cd's?

    The last one was Return of the Spit.

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts
    that Golden State Warriors joint
    the song with the Windmills of Your Mind sample?
    Yeah, it's a cool track.

  • jamesjames chicago 1,863 Posts

    I never really felt anything Ras Kass did. Dude was nasty but I never dug any song by him other than "Won't Catch Me Runnin'"

    no "understandable smooth"???? i always dug that track, and his blatant abuse of the Anita Baker sample was kinda gangsta (with my understanding that she is not one to let rappers use her music for samples).

    I liked his verse on that old lyricist lounge track with O.C. and Spinna (AYE MAMI TO FUNDIO ES MUY GRANDE....IM STRIP SEARCHED BITCHES LIKE SECURITY AT THE PALLADIUM....AT THE GOLD LADY HAVING STRIPPERS SWALLLOW MY BABIES).

    CALL MEEEEEEEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    Oh, cot-damn--"Action Guaranteed." I haven't heard that one in forever. I can still sing the shit out of that hook, though.
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