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Starting a jazz collection....

Rix22Rix22 67 Posts
edited December 2015 in Record Collecting
Outside of Miles and Coltrane, which artists and albums would you suggest as starters for a newbie?Thanks in advance!!!
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  • Dabney_SoulmanDabney_Soulman 890 Posts
    Outside of Miles and Coltrane, which artists and albums would you suggest as starters for a newbie?

    Thanks in advance!!!

    Jazz has many sub-genres so what may interest one man may not interest another.

    theres a whole lotta difference between modal and free jazz

    heres some shit I got into waaay back when

    Mingus broke my cherry

    Gene Harris is incredibly under rated

    Duke Ellington's "Money Jungle" is a classic that should be owned by all

    ditto for Roland Kirk's "We Free Kings"

    be sure to grab any and all albums by Lee Morgan as well
  • pcmrpcmr 5,591 Posts
    cant go wrong with gene ammons, wes montgomery, count basie, dizzy gillespie, art blakey and the jazz messengers
  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    Thelonious Monk
  • On_the_Red_ClayOn_the_Red_Clay 1,728 Posts
    Go out digging a lot and score anything jazz-related and cheap. There's so much jazz and taste is a very personal thing, so go out exploring and see what kind of jazz makes you tick!


    my $0.02
  • JLRJLR 3,835 Posts
    Bill Evans
  • NeverEnoughMoneyNeverEnoughMoney 300 Posts
    Off the top of my head, here are some favorites that are also accessible. They pretty much lean towards hard bop or post bop:

    Lee Morgan - Search For The New Land
    Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Moanin'
    Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Big Beat
    Art Blakey & The Jazz Messengers - Free For All
    Horace Silver - Serenade To A Soul Sister
    Thelonius Monk - Brilliant Corners
    Gerry Mulligan - Mulligan Meets Monk
    Pharoah Sanders - Karma
    Pharoah Sanders - Thembi
    Grachan Moncur III - Evolution
    Eric Dolphy - Out To Lunch
    Ron Carter - Where
    Johnny Griffin - Blowin' Session

    And, if you find that you like free/spiritual jazz, I can't recommend Mtume & the Umoja Ensemble's "Alkebu Lan" enough. If you find yourself heading in this direction, start the search early because it may take a while to find.
  • crossingscrossings 946 Posts
    herbie hancock, ramsey lewis, cal tjader, eddie handerson, charlie parker.....
  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    hampton hawes

    ahmad jamal
  • bull_oxbull_ox 5,056 Posts
    Thelonious Monk
    Thelonious Monk
    Thelonious Monk
    Thelonious Monk
    Thelonious Monk

  • JLRJLR 3,835 Posts
    Or maybe a couple of traditional jazz records to know where it all comes from?
  • hammertimehammertime 2,389 Posts
    Go out digging a lot and score anything jazz-related and cheap. There's so much jazz and taste is a very personal thing, so go out exploring and see what kind of jazz makes you tick!


    my $0.02


    f'real. when i first got interested in jazz i just got a few classics, then czeched out anything i could find that had the same musicians, and it snowballed from there.
  • Dabney_SoulmanDabney_Soulman 890 Posts
    I never thought I'd say this, but maybe you should look at the collections of jazz Ken Burns put out a couple years back.







































    ok I feel dirty now, but not muddy dirty more like starbucks mocha latte with soy dirty
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    don't forget the aptly-named Joe Sample, yo!
  • Dabney_SoulmanDabney_Soulman 890 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...

    you forgot the great Chuck Mangione

    DON'T TET
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...

    you forgot the great Chuck Mangione

    Do even "samples, yo" dudes sweat that guy? I think maybe you mean Gap Mangione...
  • Dabney_SoulmanDabney_Soulman 890 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...

    you forgot the great Chuck Mangione

    Do even "samples, yo" dudes sweat that guy? I think maybe you mean Gap Mangione...

    Brainfreeze Shadow raer
  • Rix22Rix22 67 Posts
    On a side note, are there any certain labels (outside of Blue Note, Bethlehem & Strata-East) that I should look for as well?
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Contemporary
    Prestige/New Jazz/Moodsville
    Impulse
    Flying Dutchman
    ESP
  • Dabney_SoulmanDabney_Soulman 890 Posts
    Prestige, Riverside, Fantasy, Bethlehem, Impulse, Metal Blade
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    On a side note, are there any certain labels (outside of Blue Note, Bethlehem & Strata-East) that I should look for as well?

    CTI/Kudu got some beats, yo.

    Seriously, though, I'd explore the Prestige and Impulse catalogs before getting too heavy with peripheral stuff like Strata East.
  • kitchenknightkitchenknight 4,922 Posts
    The New Wave of Jazz is On Impulse, yo....

    My recommendations:
    Milt Jackson
    Mingus
    A Jamal
    Yusef Lateef


    Mingus was the first one who really blew my head off, though.
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Riverside


  • hammertimehammertime 2,389 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...

    you forgot the great Chuck Mangione

    Do even "samples, yo" dudes sweat that guy? I think maybe you mean Gap Mangione...


    don't front on "Land of Make Believe".

      

  • gruntgravelgruntgravel 559 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...

    sure Klemmer put out a ton of pure garbage, but he had his moments on those early tripped out Cadet recordings like Eruptions and All the Children Cried. Dude must have flamed out.
  • FlomotionFlomotion 2,391 Posts
    Do it by label...Prestige, Blue Note, Impulse etc.
  • magneticmagnetic 2,678 Posts
    Prestige, Riverside, Fantasy, Bethlehem, Impulse, Metal Blade[/b]

    that's sneaky of you
  • fishmongerfunkfishmongerfunk 4,154 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...

    to called these players tepid although they all ended up putting a glut of crappy material out starting in the mid to late 70's. there is no way i would consider an album like rural still life by tom scott tepid or the aformentioned early cadet recordings of john klemmer, or mouzon's essence of mystery. also those guys played on a considerable amount of wicked sessions by other artist as well from eugene mcdaniels,joni mitchell, mccoy tyner, wayne shorter, steely dan etc, etc..

    the point is, if you want to build a decent jazz collection you need to find out for yourself which players, labels, and periods interest you the most. its kind of like connecting dots.
  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    And, of course, don't neglect the tepid terd subgenre:

    Tom Scott
    John Klemmer
    Alphonse Mouzon...

    to called these players tepid although they all ended up putting a glut of crappy material out starting in the mid to late 70's. there is no way i would consider an album like rural still life by tom scott tepid or the aformentioned early cadet recordings of john klemmer

    C'mon, dude--that's kind of the crap I had in mind. I wouldn't even lower myself to referring to their later efforts.
  • piedpiperpiedpiper 1,279 Posts
    vocal jazz is worth a try, too

    e.g.
    "sarah vaughan - swingin easy"
    "marlena shaw - live at montreux"


    and check out some weird stuff

    sun ra (e.g. cosmic tones for mental therapy)



    moondog


    and mingus and monk are definitely
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