Wilmer Alexander (from Wilmer & the Dukes) Alvin Robinson (a/k/a "Shine," as he's billed on this soul-era single I have) Warren Lee ("Funky Belly," forever!)
Nah, I agree... listen close. She's got a lot of pain in that album... "Don't You Care" alone is straight chilling, when it isn't causing me to shake my groove thing
I don't actually really shake my groove thing
Yeah, I cosign the Raw.
But for me it's definitely David Ruffin. So much anger. Trapped inside. Don't stop and say hi. Motherfucker just die.
when she sings my eyes swell and i get all choked up. pretty? i wouldnt say so... but none of us share ears so i hear it differently than you do. i feel that shes pretty raw and has a hard lived face on the back of that jacket. she looks tired and i feel that when she sings. every song is about lost love... that shits gotta hurt after a while. even the stuff she did with billy vera is tortured sounding lyrically to me.
...here's a left-field choice from modern times: the Holmes Brothers. Right now I'm listening to their soul version of the country-crossover standard "He'll Have To Go," and even though it's a tender ballad, those are three intense vocals blending in there...
Does anyone here know the Lord Luther 45 "Two of a Kind"?
Oh yes, I have that one. The words are just a straightforward love song, but his intense and paranoid delivery says something else! Love this record.
I also have this other song he did called "Thinking Man's Girl," which is more R&B than soul, but his voice is as gritty as ever. Don't own the original single, I just have it on a late-80's bootleg vinyl compilation on the Savage Kick label entitled Black Rock & Roll.
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Ahhhhhhh, Etta! She rocks my world. [color:white] And she gets my vote [/color]
If she's not the rawest, in your opinion, then why bother mentioning her name?
Because "rawest" is like someone asking who the "best" is. The pantheon is interchangable. There is no best/rawest/smoothest/etc....
Some voices might be 75% rasp and grit w/ 25% emotion vs 50% rasp/gravel to 50% emotion. It's relative. The cat from the Dells most def raw but the "rawest".................
Michael Jordan/Bill Russell/Wilt Chamberlain/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Elvin Spencer, for damn sure ("Lift This Hurt" on Twinight, among others).
And also "I've Got To Find A Way" by Moses Dillard & the Tex-Town Display (ca. 1969), featuring lead vocals by a then-unknown singer who later smoothed out like a motherfucker during the disco era...none other than...PEABO BRYSON?!? Yes indeed!
Does anyone here know the Lord Luther 45 "Two of a Kind"?
Oh yes, I have that one. The words are just a straightforward love song, but his intense and paranoid delivery says something else! Love this record.
I also have this other song he did called "Thinking Man's Girl," which is more R&B than soul, but his voice is as gritty as ever. Don't own the original single, I just have it on a late-80's bootleg vinyl compilation on the Savage Kick label entitled Black Rock & Roll.
I think I just found a copy of "Thinking Man's Girl" a few months back. I don't think I was that impressed. If so, I'd be willing to trade for something.
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Alvin Robinson (a/k/a "Shine," as he's billed on this soul-era single I have)
Warren Lee ("Funky Belly," forever!)
especially "If Loving You Is a Crime, I'll Always Be Guilty".
Amazed nobody's mentioned James Brown.
Bruce Springsteen
Bon Scott
Bryan Adams
Stevie Nicks
Michael Bolton
Otis Redding --- NO CONTEST. How can you deny "Try...Tenderness"? I mean really?
You can FEEL his soul raw!!! From tears of joy to tears of pain, in one fucking song. Now that is soul! Dude wore the rawest soul on his sleeve.
Shivers up the spine type shit, that's what I call raw.
But I really like Syl too, moreso than Al.
Al Green had his raw moments, as well:
"I'll Be Good To You"
"I Can't Get Next To You"
"So You're Leaving"
"It Ain't No Fun To Me"
"All Because"
"Get Back Baby"
...but that was early on. Starting with the I'm Still In Love With You album in 1972, he was pretty much smoothed out for good!
dyke and blazers dude
er, dyke? fo sho. runaway peeeeeoooople!
alice clark
johnny baker
jesse james
clyde mcphatter (pre-war stint)
sam cooke
You think she's raw? Her voice is too pretty....
Nah, I agree... listen close. She's got a lot of pain in that album... "Don't You Care" alone is straight chilling, when it isn't causing me to shake my groove thing
I don't actually really shake my groove thing
Yeah, I cosign the Raw.
But for me it's definitely David Ruffin. So much anger. Trapped inside. Don't stop and say hi. Motherfucker just die.
when she sings my eyes swell and i get all choked up. pretty? i wouldnt say so... but none of us share ears so i hear it differently than you do. i feel that shes pretty raw and has a hard lived face on the back of that jacket. she looks tired and i feel that when she sings. every song is about lost love... that shits gotta hurt after a while. even the stuff she did with billy vera is tortured sounding lyrically to me.
yessss.... but... can i have the syl photo in high res?
That's who I thought the first time I read the title of this thread. I love her screaming vocal style.
CO-SIGN.
SOUL.
"My woman ain't home anymore.......... it's just a big old house on a hill"
If she's not the rawest, in your opinion, then why bother mentioning her name?
Oh yes, I have that one. The words are just a straightforward love song, but his intense and paranoid delivery says something else! Love this record.
I also have this other song he did called "Thinking Man's Girl," which is more R&B than soul, but his voice is as gritty as ever. Don't own the original single, I just have it on a late-80's bootleg vinyl compilation on the Savage Kick label entitled Black Rock & Roll.
Ahhhhhhh, Etta! She rocks my world. [color:white] And she gets my vote [/color]
Oops, actually meant Bobby Bland whom I would consider a soul singer aswell as a blues man.
Crossover
Because "rawest" is like someone asking who the "best" is. The pantheon is interchangable. There is no best/rawest/smoothest/etc....
Some voices might be 75% rasp and grit w/ 25% emotion vs 50% rasp/gravel to 50% emotion. It's relative. The cat from the Dells most def raw but the "rawest".................
Michael Jordan/Bill Russell/Wilt Chamberlain/Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
Millie Jackson - raw voice and subject matter.
And also "I've Got To Find A Way" by Moses Dillard & the Tex-Town Display (ca. 1969), featuring lead vocals by a then-unknown singer who later smoothed out like a motherfucker during the disco era...none other than...PEABO BRYSON?!? Yes indeed!
I was actually talking about RAW in terms of grit and strength, hence the Syl jumpoff, who this thread was inspired by.
I think I just found a copy of "Thinking Man's Girl" a few months back. I don't think I was that impressed. If so, I'd be willing to trade for something.