Hiphop vinyl VS. all other vinyl raer
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Do you think Hihop vinyl is more rare than all those rare groove records everyone seems to be after? I've asked this question to close friends before and some of them agree that Hiphop is more rare, others don't. Considering that there are a lot fo Hiphop records I've never seen up for auction or at record shows compared to some of these ultra rare groove records that I see popping up everywhere. My brother found an orginal Billy Wooten LP for $3 bucks in a Virginia store a few years ago and just recently found a mint copy of Sun Ra's "Lanquidity" for $2. Hiphop records to me seem to be more scarce. Am I wrong?
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Me too.
all that means is that you're a hip hopper.
what kind of hip hop stuff are you talking about? sun ra might be easier to find than tootskee & czar mc, but old tribe & juice crew records? that shit is common.
Yeah I ain't talkin about the Ying Yang vinyl. There are a lot of private press Hiphop vinyl too and unreleased promos. I'm talking about the good stuff.
What you are seeing is just a trend - dealers and collectors think funk, soul, jazz is really hot... they are unloading it because there was a time when nobody cared. Now nobody cares about hip-hop records.... except the Japanese
I also search for breaks and so I know what's out there compared to the Hiphop shit I'm looking for. The stuff I'm looking for doesn't come around very often if at all.
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What is this thread even about?
Dude is just reeling off anecdotal evidence of one sort or another about how he found some non-rap records for cheap, but has been unable to find certain rap titles.
We are now supposed to draw overarching conclusions about the nature of RAER or something?
I'm looking for a ton of stuff. for starters I'm looking for promo copies of some instrumental albums, a few Pete Rock records, one De La Soul promo album. Many other titles..
No this is a subject I posted up for discussion and that's what I'm doing, discussing. If you don't know enough about the subject to participate then don;t get mad at me just move on.
All of that shit was rare when it came out. If you didn't get it then you are gonna be in for a wait. The dudes that have it are not giving it up because they are hip-hop collectors like you.
Most breaks/funk/etc records are 30-40 years old, so the people that initially bought them have held on to them for long enough and are getting on in years and want to unload it.
You're just being salty for the sake of it
As much as I dislike looking and Biz every day, dude has a point
LOL!
"This record was last played circa 1994. It has not left the sleeve since."
On a side note: It would seem to me that some 70s, 80s & 90's local releases will prove to be even raerer than big dollar 60s stuff, think about it - vinyl as a format was on the decline since the 70s, so pressing sizes would naturally be smaller etc.
the real question is: what's out right now that will be valuable in 10, 20 years? probably a cut-out of some sort...
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This is a good point- generally the records that become valueable are the ones that folks did not anticipate would and got left behind because nobody cared at the time
But you really cannot anticipate what sounds are going to appeal to the collectors of the future...
Silkscreen pic sleeve 45s.
Bam, I never got the 45 from you!! Have trades, quick before you move to that less fashionable zip code!
You're right. Who really knows when a record is going to be rare but I never looked at buying records that way anyway. I buy what I like rare or not.
Right then, you're looking for stuff like "Main Ingredient" Instrumentals and the Japanese "Searchin'" remix 12 and Ghostface "Goodtimes" white label 12" and shit like that right? UK only white vinyl "Shut Em Down Remix" and Big Daddy Kane "Set It Off" 12" and shitz.
You can get it in NYC or London or maybe LA for a high price. It pops on ebay once in a blue moon. It's not just gonna wind up in Amoeba hip-hop section for $5.99. But then again you never know, I swooped the Audio Two "Top billin" orange label remix for $4.99 at Amoeba Berkeley, middle of the afternoon, with tonnes of great hip-hop surrounding it. Everybody rip van winkled.
People are holding on to those things though, man. Give it time.
"Damn, I got a few of those - we're rich Ma!!!"
Yes you never know. I've come up plenty of times in the middle of a crowd flippin through the used Hiphop section. Most people don't know if something is rare or care until someone writes about it in a magazine, then everyone wants that record. Like I said I'm not out to just have rare shit for braggin rights, I only buy shit I like. If it happens to be rare, so be it.
I have one of these for you if your interested, it was part of a series of coloured UK P.E. promos that came in die cut sleeves, if your interested pm me, peas, IM
so true.
Really, "faux_rillz." Just play your position. You don't know boo about Madlib and I doubt you even had a radio show in college.