Essential Funk 45's

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  • jamesjames chicago 1,863 Posts
    James Brown - "I Can't Stand Myself" / "There Was A Time"



    a lot of James Brown really, although a lot of them are available on LPs.



    I reject the idea that "essential" means "unavailable on LP."



    On what basis?



    To me, "essential 45" means either unavailable on LP or available only on an LP that is such a terd that you wouldn't want to be burdened with the other ~10 tracks.



    Fair enough.



    The long, personal answer is that 1) I'd need to hear something like "45-only" or "non-LP version" or "different studio mix" before I took it to mean "unavailable on LP." And 2) I don't think that the quality of the album from which it's drawn has any bearing at all on the essentialness of any 45; ten other shitty tracks just make the album less essential, it doesn't make the 45 any more so (though it certainly might make it more desirable).



    The long, case-specific answer is that I read the intial post--containing as it did phrases like "needs schooling," "real burner," and "not looking for anything too rare"--and took the question to be more focused on the "essential" half of the equation than on the "45" half.



    The short, relevant answer is

    No, it's ok if it also appeared on the album.

  • Hmmm.....

    how bout this, everyone seems to have it in their collections and it's constantly played out, accessible, a strong track, and cheap. It's funk-rock styled but really has that funk edge so everyone mixes it in funk sets sometimes............so here:

    Fugi - Mary don't Take me on no Bad trip

  • DJBombjackDJBombjack Miami 1,665 Posts
    African Music Machine - Black Water Gold

  • "Popcorn" - Jimbo Jackson & the Violators
    "You Hit the Spot Baby" - Gloria Walker & the Chevelles
    "Hard Headed Woman" - US Warren
    "Pickin Cotton / Git Sum" - Johnny Talbot
    "LC Funk" - Lee Williams & the New Cymbals
    "Iron Leg" - Mickey & the Soul Generation
    "Soft Soul" - Lavell Kamma & the Afro Soul Revue
    "the Drunk" - James Brown
    "Different Strokes" - Syl Johnson


  • FatbackFatback 6,746 Posts
    cosign all above add (if not mentioned)

    alvin cash--keep on dancing

  • ZeusZeus 162 Posts
    everything by or produced by edwin bocage. up to a point.



  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts

    I don't think that the quality of the album from which it's drawn has any bearing at all on the essentialness of any 45; ten other shitty tracks just make the album less essential, it doesn't make the 45 any more so (though it certainly might make it more desirable).

    I see what you are saying, but my view is that while the piece of music either is or isn't essential, regardless of the presence of ten additional schitty tracks, those ten tracks do impact what form it is essential for me to possess the piece of music in.

  • ZeusZeus 162 Posts
    some more obvious ones...

    Impeach the Pres
    Synthetic Substitution
    House of the Rising Funk
    Cramp Your Style
    Trespasser
    Funky Axe

  • Two on the slower side:
    Lee Dorsey - "Give it Up"
    B.W. Souls -- "Marvin's Groove"

    I have extras of these if anyone needs:
    myra barnes - "super good"
    cyril neville - "gossip"

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
    Rufus Thomas- Funky Mississippi, The Funky Penguin, Itch and Scratch,
    KATG- everything before 1977?
    Jean Knight- Do Me on stax

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
    Lee Dorsey- Give it up, Everything I do Gone be fuhnky, four corners, ride you pony
    Aretha- This the house that Jack Built, Rock Steady
    this is like AM Gold and shit.



  • cramp your style is a good call.





    some more obvious ones...



    Impeach the Pres

    Synthetic Substitution

    Trespasser






    those I would have mentioned, however, I thought we were staying away from pricey & rarer pieces (for a new funk collector these are def considered rare)





    Trespasser is my shiznit.


  • SwayzeSwayze 14,705 Posts
    Little Royal - Razor Blade

    Great record--although I think it may also be an album cut? Have to check when I get home.

    There is also a vocal version by Sebastian called "Living In Depression" on brown dog.

  • BaptBapt 2,503 Posts

    Wait!!!!!!

    Sharon Jones "Damn It's Hot" Part 1/2
    Desco!


  • bluesnagbluesnag 1,285 Posts
    Rufus Thomas- Funky Mississippi, The Funky Penguin, Itch and Scratch,
    KATG- everything before 1977?
    Jean Knight- Do Me on stax

    1976 is iffy for kool & the gang though. the only tune that is any good on the open sesame lp is the title track, and that's available on 12".

  • jimmy jones, im after some o this guys 45's on DEKE

  • hobo_dhobo_d 331 Posts
    lowell fulsom - tramp

    cliff nobles - love is alright / the horse

    robert parker - barefootin'

    dyke and the blazers - let a woman be a woman let a man be a man


  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    KATG- everything before 1977?

    1976 is iffy for kool & the gang though.

    1976 is iffy for funk in general, IMO. With precious few exceptions (like the P-Funk mob), thangs start getting kinda dicey after 1975.




  • lowell fulsom - tramp


    dyke and the blazers - let a woman be a woman let a man be a man



  • hobo_dhobo_d 331 Posts
    KATG- everything before 1977?

    would the kool & the gang b/w raw hamburgers 7'' classify as this



    i thought of some more

    jean knight - mr big stuff
    otis redding - hard to handle
    rufus thomas - the breakdown
    bill moss - sock it to em soul brother
    herbie mann - soul man
    charles wright - express yourself
    chuck brown - bustin loose

    and

    fabulous counts - janjan, lunar funk, scrambled eggs (there pretty cheap on the bay)

  • pickwick33pickwick33 8,946 Posts
    KATG- everything before 1977?

    would the kool & the gang b/w raw hamburgers 7'' classify as this

    its from 1969 so i guess it would




  • bill doggett-honky tonk popcorn
    eddie bo & inez cheatham-lover and a friend
    ann sexton-youre losing me
    jesse anderson-mighty mighty
    kim melvin-doin the popcorn
    dapps-bringin up the guitar

  • DJPrestigeDJPrestige 1,710 Posts
    charles wright- what can you bring me


  • I don't think that the quality of the album from which it's drawn has any bearing at all on the essentialness of any 45; ten other shitty tracks just make the album less essential, it doesn't make the 45 any more so (though it certainly might make it more desirable).

    I see what you are saying, but my view is that while the piece of music either is or isn't essential, regardless of the presence of ten additional schitty tracks, those ten tracks do impact what form it is essential for me to possess the piece of music in.

    Perfect example (though not funk): Ray Bryant "Up Above The Rock"

  • bluesnagbluesnag 1,285 Posts
    charles wright- what can you bring me

    and "must be your thing" is the hotness too.


  • ann sexton-youre losing me

    definitely.

    also:

    hip thang ?? the swordsmen
    things got to get better (get together) ?? marva whitney
    you gotta push ?? jody gayles
    evidence ?? candi staton
    peace begins within ?? bobby powell
    nobody ?? hodges, smith, james & crawford

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts

    ann sexton-youre losing me

    definitely.

    also:

    hip thang ?? the swordsmen
    things got to get better (get together) ?? marva whitney
    you gotta push ?? jody gayles
    evidence ?? candi staton
    peace begins within ?? bobby powell
    nobody ?? hodges, smith, james & crawford

    Hip thang is so necessary and seemingly so slept on. I got a vg copy in the box for Nightowl.

    Tramp is also required reading for all DJs. SHit always hits well on the dance floor

  • Mike_BellMike_Bell 5,736 Posts
    lowell fulsom - tramp


    dyke and the blazers - let a woman be a woman let a man be a man



  • jimmy jones, im after some o this guys 45's on DEKE

    "do what comes natural" is

    I like "time and changes" also, though that is not on DEKE.

  • wilson pickett-engine #9

    jb's-you can have watergate

    maceo and kingsmen- got to getcha

    paul humphrey and the cool aid chemists-detroit/cool-aid

    oliver sain-bus stop

    dennis coffey-scorpio



    oters.....
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