Brenda & the Tabulations - Scuze Us, Y'all - Top & Bottom (slept on and ILL)
Harvey Scales & Seven Sounds - Love-It-Is/Get Down - Broadway Freeze/I Can't Cry No More (both Magic Touch) - Get Down '70/Funky Football - Funky Yolk/Yolk (both Chess)
I also tend to like the ballad-type cuts that a lot of funk collectors skip past on the LPs...
Major co-sign here. I find a lot of albums I love from start to finish are dismissed as "2 trackers" by funk heads. The Little Royal is actually a perfect example of this.
This little dude needs schooling in the world of funk 45's. If it's not a real burner then forget it. Also, not looking for anything too rare either (unless it's really a monster).
I only have a few suggestions to offer. The Chris Jones "I'm the Man" that everyone has, Johnny Talbot "Pickin' Cotton" and Thomas East "Funky Music" on True Soul.
Thanks Soulstrut..
Why would you say that the Chris Jones 45 is "essential"? It's one of the most blatant James Brown rip-offs there is. A derivative single would not be "essential' in my book. Good song, but not essential.
Why would you say that the Chris Jones 45 is "essential"? It's one of the most blatant James Brown rip-offs there is. A derivative single would not be "essential' in my book. Good song, but not essential.
While I agree with you that the Chris Jones is far from "essential," and is one of the more derivative if not straight "aping" rip-offs of JB this side of Roy Head, I'm pretty sure we can think of a few JB-derivative 45's that are "essential." I mean, come on, almost everybody was copying the man to some extent. We can start with those late 60's Hank Ballard 45's, like"Blackenized," which are awesome performances but almost come off as JB cloning himself to make more hits...of course, JB stole his style from Hank to begin with, so maybe he's not the best example...
Why would you say that the Chris Jones 45 is "essential"? It's one of the most blatant James Brown rip-offs there is. A derivative single would not be "essential' in my book. Good song, but not essential.
While I agree with you that the Chris Jones is far from "essential," and is one of the more derivative if not straight "aping" rip-offs of JB this side of Roy Head, I'm pretty sure we can think of a few JB-derivative 45's that are "essential." I mean, come on, almost everybody was copying the man to some extent. We can start with those late 60's Hank Ballard 45's, like"Blackenized," which are awesome performances but almost come off as JB cloning himself to make more hits...of course, JB stole his style from Hank to begin with, so maybe he's not the best example...
See I don't consider Hank Ballard, Marva Whitney, Lyn Collins, etc. rip-offs of James Brown because they were part of his revue and he produced/released them. Chris Jones on the other hand is straight copying the godfather to good effect note you, but copying. The James Brown family was produced and directed by the man himself.
Yeah, that's what I was saying. I just think that some of the other 45's we could call "essential" are people copying James Brown as well, just much better than Chris Jones did.
Don't know what's "essential" but these are some I enjoy:
Dramatics - Get Up and Get Down (Volt) Joe Quarterman and Free Soul - Get Down Baby (Mercury) Fatback Band - Let the Drums Speak (Event) Electric Express - It's the Real Thing (Linco) Clarence Reid - Funky Party (Alston) Lee Fields - She's a Love Maker (London) Soul Searchers - Blow Your Whistle/Funk to the Folks (Sussex) Soul Searchers - We the People (Sussex) Donald Byrd - Change (Makes You Wanna Hustle) (Blue Note) Uncle Sam - The Big Apple (Le Cam) Consumer Rapport - Go On With Your Bad Self (Wing and a Prayer) Donald Austin - Crazy Legs (Woody)
The thing about the Chris Jones "I'm the Man" is that I've liked it ever since I heard it on one of Soulman's comps. I just like the sound of it with the way the guitar comes in at the beginning...it just sounds cool to me, wasn't really concerned with the context of it being a James Brown knock-off.
Motown, I'm no expert here (clearly) it's just something I was digging.
I don't think that the quality of the album from which it's drawn has any bearing at all on the essentialness of any 45; ten other shitty tracks just make the album less essential, it doesn't make the 45 any more so (though it certainly might make it more desirable).
I see what you are saying, but my view is that while the piece of music either is or isn't essential, regardless of the presence of ten additional schitty tracks, those ten tracks do impact what form it is essential for me to possess the piece of music in.
Perfect example (though not funk): Ray Bryant "Up Above The Rock"
Well, the "Up Above The Rock" 45 is a markedly different mix than the lp, so, yeah, it is a perfect example--though perhaps not in the way you meant.
the great thing about the Chris Jones 45 versus other JB-derivitive 45s , is that it is cheap. For example it is about $1,100 cheaper than the Ricky Calloway, and just as good.
I don't think that the quality of the album from which it's drawn has any bearing at all on the essentialness of any 45; ten other shitty tracks just make the album less essential, it doesn't make the 45 any more so (though it certainly might make it more desirable).
I see what you are saying, but my view is that while the piece of music either is or isn't essential, regardless of the presence of ten additional schitty tracks, those ten tracks do impact what form it is essential for me to possess the piece of music in.
Perfect example (though not funk): Ray Bryant "Up Above The Rock"
Well, the "Up Above The Rock" 45 is a markedly different mix than the lp, so, yeah, it is a perfect example--though perhaps not in the way you meant.
We will not take this lying down, james--we will be back to son you in another thread when you least expect it!
Brenda & the Tabulations - Scuze Us, Y'all - Top & Bottom (slept on and ILL)
Harvey Scales & Seven Sounds - Love-It-Is/Get Down - Broadway Freeze/I Can't Cry No More (both Magic Touch) - Get Down '70/Funky Football - Funky Yolk/Yolk (both Chess)
I also tend to like the ballad-type cuts that a lot of funk collectors skip past on the LPs...
Major co-sign here. I find a lot of albums I love from start to finish are dismissed as "2 trackers" by funk heads. The Little Royal is actually a perfect example of this.
I think one could expand this include all of the soulish type cuts that get no respect because they don't have hard drums. Clarence Carters shit on Atlantic is some of these groovinest, hittinest shit I know but doesn't get the same kinda play because it's either to ballady or too soulish.
My favorite Harvey Scales jam is Life is a Gas/It's Too Good To Be True. Have you heard that one SOulonICe shit is bananas death metal speed funk.
this is a fucking hot record. i have a weird story about it. back in school i could only afford a cheap ass goodwill record player that was from the early 80s. the needle was pretty worn, but it still sounded pretty good. anyways, on this record, when ed hits that super high note, the needle would get caught in the groove right there. the table would keep spinning, but it's like the needle couldn't handle ed's doing and would just screetch to a halt right there like it hit a wall in the groove. only time i've ever seen that.
Bump. What other little known funk/soul 45's have people discovered recently? I just posted this super heavy psych funk jammer to youtube, it's not really dancefloor friendly, but wait until about 1:30 when it really goes full https://youtu.be/SYsnigFXhPc
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hotness...cool looking label too
Brenda & the Tabulations - Scuze Us, Y'all - Top & Bottom (slept on and ILL)
Harvey Scales & Seven Sounds - Love-It-Is/Get Down - Broadway Freeze/I Can't Cry No More (both Magic Touch) - Get Down '70/Funky Football - Funky Yolk/Yolk (both Chess)
Major co-sign here. I find a lot of albums I love from start to finish are dismissed as "2 trackers" by funk heads. The Little Royal is actually a perfect example of this.
Why would you say that the Chris Jones 45 is "essential"? It's one of the most blatant James Brown rip-offs there is. A derivative single would not be "essential' in my book. Good song, but not essential.
I'm Too Tough For Mr. Big Stuff - Vicki Anderson
And even though it's a modern 45:
Blow Your Top - The Soul Destroyers
Those are nice.
Plaese to not forget about St. Louis Breakdown, by Mr. Sain.
Still one of my favorite songs EVER.
While I agree with you that the Chris Jones is far from "essential," and is one of the more derivative if not straight "aping" rip-offs of JB this side of Roy Head, I'm pretty sure we can think of a few JB-derivative 45's that are "essential." I mean, come on, almost everybody was copying the man to some extent. We can start with those late 60's Hank Ballard 45's, like"Blackenized," which are awesome performances but almost come off as JB cloning himself to make more hits...of course, JB stole his style from Hank to begin with, so maybe he's not the best example...
See I don't consider Hank Ballard, Marva Whitney, Lyn Collins, etc. rip-offs of James Brown because they were part of his revue and he produced/released them. Chris Jones on the other hand is straight copying the godfather to good effect note you, but copying. The James Brown family was produced and directed by the man himself.
Dramatics - Get Up and Get Down (Volt)
Joe Quarterman and Free Soul - Get Down Baby (Mercury)
Fatback Band - Let the Drums Speak (Event)
Electric Express - It's the Real Thing (Linco)
Clarence Reid - Funky Party (Alston)
Lee Fields - She's a Love Maker (London)
Soul Searchers - Blow Your Whistle/Funk to the Folks (Sussex)
Soul Searchers - We the People (Sussex)
Donald Byrd - Change (Makes You Wanna Hustle) (Blue Note)
Uncle Sam - The Big Apple (Le Cam)
Consumer Rapport - Go On With Your Bad Self (Wing and a Prayer)
Donald Austin - Crazy Legs (Woody)
Still some of the craziest drumming EVER. god. the meters are crazy
The thing about the Chris Jones "I'm the Man" is that I've liked it ever since I heard it on one of Soulman's comps. I just like the sound of it with the way the guitar comes in at the beginning...it just sounds cool to me, wasn't really concerned with the context of it being a James Brown knock-off.
Motown, I'm no expert here (clearly) it's just something I was digging.
Well, the "Up Above The Rock" 45 is a markedly different mix than the lp, so, yeah, it is a perfect example--though perhaps not in the way you meant.
We will not take this lying down, james--we will be back to son you in another thread when you least expect it!
I think one could expand this include all of the soulish type cuts that get no respect because they don't have hard drums. Clarence Carters shit on Atlantic is some of these groovinest, hittinest shit I know but doesn't get the same kinda play because it's either to ballady or too soulish.
My favorite Harvey Scales jam is Life is a Gas/It's Too Good To Be True. Have you heard that one SOulonICe shit is bananas death metal speed funk.
this is a fucking hot record. i have a weird story about it. back in school i could only afford a cheap ass goodwill record player that was from the early 80s. the needle was pretty worn, but it still sounded pretty good. anyways, on this record, when ed hits that super high note, the needle would get caught in the groove right there. the table would keep spinning, but it's like the needle couldn't handle ed's doing and would just screetch to a halt right there like it hit a wall in the groove. only time i've ever seen that.
sorry to go off topic. i cosign on this one.
Post MP3 or you're soft.
"do me" is pure fire and a nice cheap pick up...
What other little known funk/soul 45's have people discovered recently?
I just posted this super heavy psych funk jammer to youtube, it's not really dancefloor friendly, but wait until about 1:30 when it really goes full
https://youtu.be/SYsnigFXhPc
Essential is hard to define, so I went with cheap...most of these should be pretty easy to find out in the field or online
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/569066270/apple-and-the-three-oranges-free-and-easy-part
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/12368898100/tony-clarke-ghetto-man-chicory-pretty-easy
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/58785097944/albert-jones-wisdom-tri-city-cheapie-funk
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/89366795579/mickey-and-the-soul-generation-chocolate
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/118855631534/don-campbell-campbell-lock-stanson-classic
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/140326119774/gregory-washington-pamla-lamour-brainstorm
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/45394254551/zz-hill-think-people-mhr-classic-funk
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/156121208699/the-steppers-what-the-problem-is-aware
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/1726085466/the-legionnaires-horse-kama-sutra-nice
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/14612678015/bettye-swann-the-boy-next-door-atlantic
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/27975096483/bham-rhythm-section-let-the-music-play-black
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/40595572877/rudy-love-love-f-f-does-your-mama-know-you-do
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/40756714243/march-wind-do-the-sweetback-stax-another
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/89751437904/fantastic-johnny-c-lets-do-it-together-kama
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/97880523399/papa-don-association-souled-out-amy-i
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/98797123784/the-fame-gang-turn-my-chicken-loose-fame
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/119930184124/don-gregory-the-soul-trainers-soul-line
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/123022733434/james-bloom-soul-walkin20th-century-cheap
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/121997686894/la-jay-alexander-what-cha-gonna-do-black
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/33358498779/sweet-promise-funky-jungle-ala-dirt-cheap
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/37255071458/the-fame-gang-grits-gravy-fame-cheap
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/144999626519/the-flamingos-do-it-to-it-philips-cheap
http://funksoul.tumblr.com/post/136328281374/bobby-rush-just-be-yourself-salem-closing
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