Beyonce - Crazy Overrated?
staxwax
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I was wondering how the strut feels about this. While its probably beyond debate that she has a great voice and is a great performer - I get the feeling that the whole - shes a goddess - status which seems to be commonplace in reference to 'queen bey' is maaad suspect.
I cant see her in a line up next to all time greats such as marvin gaye, aretha, chaka khan etc. because i cant think of any timeless songs she can take credit for. Lets be real - crazy in love and single ladies. Timeless classics? Seems to me a large portion of her catalogue is overproduced and hyper marketed and will not survive the - is this on your desert island list ten years from now? test.
How does the strut feel?
Classic status - orrrrr Maaddddd Overrated?
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Beyond crazy in love and the ring-finger song... I dunno. Was she overrated?
She can sing, but I can't say she has a great voice - you'd have to be an Aretha or a Chaka in my book for that kind of praise. However, her "Brand" will be around longer than any of her tunes. Unfortunately the bar is lower now and Gen XYZ (or whatever pigeonhole the youth belong in now) don't know the real or don't care - She is the woman that women want to be and men want to be with.
I can't say that's an entirely negative thing - for a woman of colour to be allowed to be the "Face of" major brands etc. is something that Aretha would have never gotten at her age. That has to be progress, right? And she also gets Sports Illustrated shoots, allowing herself to be sexually objectified AND YET still gets to be seen as a role model for women/wimmin/sisters everywhere and not some disposable bimbo - quite the feat.
And shit, Whitters did have a great voice.
But she ended up mad as a wasp and constipated.
Hearing that song kind of hurts me in my heart. I can't explain it. So I can't forgive that song.
b/w
But I digress. I like Beyonce and while she's not in my top 5 or anything, I can understand how she connected with people. There are classics in the Destiny's Child era, and she led the charge on that dgaf attitude that Monica and dem also had. Crazy in Love and Formation are kinda classic to me. Single Ladies is TERRIBLE.
I never thought I'd be defending Beyonce tbh.
Thats fine but the general tone in public conversation is that shes some kind of divine ray of light in the art world and i really have to cal bullshit on that one. A catchy hook and a chi lites sample a producer came up with for you do not put you in the GOAT section of music imo. Like I said 10 years from now what will her legacy look like next to the true goats of music? Pretty shriveled up and stale is my prediction
I think 10 years from now, the general public will still revere her as a great artist because, beyond the quality of some of her songs, her expression is very unique (videos and fashion and attitude etc).
But I agree that she doesn't stack up as a legendary songwriter. She's written some great ones (Say My Name) but it's not on the scale of other greats.
Fuck that dude. Beyonce in her prime vs. Any girl ever.
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lol
How many of these songs does she actually write?
I get the feeling that she was spotted as the hottest chick in a girl group and then the labels do everything else. Everything.