Snowden's interview with NBC was the truth...
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Currently (as of ths post) functioning youtube link to vid:
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Really? That's funny..I got the total opposite vibe from him. I've met a lot of tech-oriented dudes who talk like he did (answering all questions with "right, the thing to think about that is...") which can be annoying but overall he seemed kinda genuine to me.
I am a total douchebag, though...so, there is that.
ÔÇ£HeÔÇÖs now saying he was an undercover, clandestine officer working as a highly trained spy for the United States,ÔÇØ Blitzer said of Snowden. ÔÇ£Is that true?ÔÇØ
ÔÇ£No,ÔÇØ Rice replied, succinctly.
Spy is a big leap from his previously held position as just another tech guy.
The original set up reminds me of Christopher Boyce. I recommend reading Falcon and the Snowman.
Here is one that is working at the moment:
Fixed.
A true patriot.
one of the few times i have to agree with you
I was reading up on the Snowden interview. Blitzer misrepresents.
Snowden said he did his computer work overseas for the CIA and the NSA. And to do that he had to have a cover. There was nothing new there, except that the Administration likes to portray him as someone who just stumbled on the info he shared.
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Nothing of course...this dude is just a whistle blowing do-goodski trying to get the truth out to the masses and Putin is just a nice guy and gave him asylum and a state sponsored lawyer like he does to all the other U.S. refugees out of the goodness of his heart.
Nothing else to see here.....move along.
I don't consider myself to be naive, but even without the assumption that everyone is lying, there's A LOT to gain for Russia by giving Snowden asylum. They have him and his wealth of secrets to hang over the US if they're not given some slack on tings. Like, I don't know, annexing part of a neighbouring country.
It's worth granting Snowden asylum just for the points scored over the-land-of-teh-free... on the one hand Putin is criticised at home and abroad as being authoritarian and repressive (gay rights, democracy etc etc which I believe he is), on the other hand he's protecting a dissenter. The world is laughing hard at America over this, and with or without any secrets Putin is laughing hardest. Look for a conspiracy if you want, but sometimes the simple answer is the simple answer.
The west has had everything it's own way for a long time, and doesn't like it when somebody answers back. America says it has misgivings about a Russian election, I LOL'd when Putin responded that he also watched Bush's transparent election. Britain moans about ten page visas, Russia snaps back that the equivalent for Russians entering the UK is 30 pages.
Except for all the others
Send me a postcard from Ecuador or Russia preferably with you maturely sticking your finger up at the West.
http://www.transparency.org/country
I also have been told by strutteratti that Edward Snowden was a low level employee, douche bag, and didn't have access to any real secrets.
I have been told by those at soulstrut who are in a position to know that he was not a spy.
Now I am hearing from those same geniuses that he gave the Russians secrets in exchange for asylum.
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B.I.N.G.O.
If anyone would like to see how incredibly complicated the various pieces of this whole argument are, I suggest watching Frontline's two part documentary on it.
http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/united-states-of-secrets/
Part one mostly covers territory that we've already known about for a long time (the shadowy/unprecedented developments that occurred immediately after 9-11) and different peoples motivations/arguments for doing what they did. However, there are many pieces of new info that I personally gleamed from Part One and I strongly suggest watching it. Part two goes into the Snowden developments.
It is certainly the most encompassing narrative that I have found on this topic.
so speaks the guy whoose biggest trip/cultural exchange abroad was to scotland? the uk? germany so you could collect those special dolls with your wife?
check out vietnam, cambodia ,panama , jamaica or amsterdam and then start talking about what you know about freedom
Fuck my personal experience.....or yours for that matter....did you bother to investigate the link I posted? Understand it?
Calling the U.S. hypocritical from Putin's standpoint is like a serial killer calling one of the jurors that helped convict him a hypocrite for once getting a speeding ticket.
Came here to post this doc. Watched it last night. Pretty good.
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It's not from Putin's standpoint, it's from the position the USA (and the democratic West) has placed itself, in relation to the highly, highly touted personal freedoms at home and decisions foreign policy (ie wars) have been based upon.
Your response is like that of so many politicians and political parties at the moment; criticism from one side is never met with an answer, instead fingers are pointed back, "I know you are, but what am I" style. Has Putin ever pretended to be spreading democracy, fair play, transparency, or Mom's apple pie? No. I don't think the guy is imaginative enough to think about changing or enhancing quality of life for anyone but himself and his cronies.
This is politics (PR, bluster, words, whatever), and Putin's a winner until America can swallow it's pride and grant Snowden immunity. Which they won't do.
It's like Putin has your wife's panties and he's flying them from a flagpole in his front yard.
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