45s that are missing the break/intro/sample compared to the 12" or album versions.

deezlee

Errrry,

You know how sometimes the 45 is missing the break/intro/sample compared to the 12" or album versions?

For example:
"I'm gonna do something freaky to you" - The album version has the long intro/break/sample, the 45 doesn't.
"rise" (Herb Albert) - The 12" has two long breaks (Biggie Hypnotize), the 45 has one short one.

Well I'm wondering about:
The RAH Band "Messages from the stars"
Thinking about buying the 45 but I want to make sure I'm not gonna miss anything by passing on the 12".
Any advice about that one?

You ever get a 45 and realize that it is lacking the break/intro/sample?

Drop knowledge!

KidProcrass

Not sure about the rah band but a obvious one that comes to mind is the Detroit Emeralds - Youre getting a little too smart 45.

deezlee

Ha, I've got that 45.
Didn't realize that I was missing anything.
I guess I shoulda figured that there was a version with grabbable drums, since they've been used so much.

bennyboy

I do believe Ballin' Jack falls into this category - no break on the 45?

DJBombjack

KidProcrass said:

Not sure about the rah band but a obvious one that comes to mind is the Detroit Emeralds - Youre getting a little too smart 45.

Not on the US pressing, but the UK pressing does.

stratasphere

No break at the beginning, but Aesop's Fables' And When It's Over is missing the break in the middle and at the end.

KidProcrass

DJBombjack said:

KidProcrass said:

Not sure about the rah band but a obvious one that comes to mind is the Detroit Emeralds - Youre getting a little too smart 45.

Not on the US pressing, but the UK pressing does.

Well thats good to know. Thanks for the info.

deezlee

bennyboy said:

I do believe Ballin' Jack falls into this category - no break on the 45?

You mean "found a child"? Is it missing the "bust a move" break or just the intro drums?

... and those Aasop's Fables drums are grimey as hell. Dope.

The_Non

Juice-catch a groove

JusMe

Gap Band - Outstanding
Johnny Guitar Watson - Superman Lover
Ballin Jack has the Bust a Move break in the middle, No intro drums..

bennyboy

deezlee said:

bennyboy said:

I do believe Ballin' Jack falls into this category - no break on the 45?

You mean "found a child"? Is it missing the "bust a move" break or just the intro drums?

... and those Aasop's Fables drums are grimey as hell. Dope.

Intro drums - bust a move still busts a move.

deezlee

bennyboy said:

Intro drums - bust a move still busts a move.

Thanks, I gotta get that record!

JusMe said:

Johnny Guitar Watson - Superman Lover

Foreal, I play that 45 all of the time and had no idea.

deezlee

The_Non said:

Juice-catch a groove

The 12" version's only 3:30 anyway, wtf not like they had to shorten it.

Electrode

deezlee said:

The_Non said:

Juice-catch a groove

The 12" version's only 3:30 anyway, wtf not like they had to shorten it.

I wonder what the rationale was behind that. Same thing with Jesse Green's "Flip", which is only three and a half minutes without the instrumental part in the middle

PrimeCutsLtd

southside movement - I've been watching you

Kinetic

The 12" version of Parliament's 'Do That Stuff' - or rather, some pressings of it - have an intro break, and the 45 does not. I forget if the album version has the intro break or not.

deezlee

PrimeCutsLtd said:

southside movement - I've been watching you

Looks like two (dope!) versions from different years (73 & 75) (?)

stratasphere

Kinetic said:

The 12" version of Parliament's 'Do That Stuff' - or rather, some pressings of it - have an intro break, and the 45 does not. I forget if the album version has the intro break or not.

The version on The Clones Of Dr. Funkenstein album has the break as well.

deezlee

Dang that "Messages from the stars" 7" was on Discogs forever then I made this thread and now it's gone.
There are more but they are hella $$$.

cadeaux

Long Red 45 no break Intro, but a little Break in the middle.
Got two copies of Southside Movements with a shorter Break.

DeeRock

All my 7" copies of the following have the full break

Jesse Green "Flip"

Johnny Guitar Watson "Superman Lover"

Juice "Catch a Groove"

Ballin' Jack "Found a Child"

JusMe

Double checked my Superman Lover 45.. guess the break is there but its only 2 bars long compared to the 8 on the lp. Also missing the 4 bars of groove before the verse comes in. Verse comes in straight after the horn stabs. Other little edits within the track too.. shorter guitar solo and stuff like that.
Looks like the other copies Ive seen, US pressing black label. Styrine. Would love a vinyl copy with the full break!

JATX

My Tyrone Davis "In the Mood" 45 is missing the intro as well.

JusMe

My Tryrone Davis isnt missing anything far as I can tell. Dont have the LP so cant compare but the part at the start that the Beatnuts looped is there.

deezlee

This thread = :feelin_it: :next_level:
Thanks strutters.
P.S. I didn't know that Ballin' Jack song and now I do! Man that's dope.

Mek_Jagger

i dont have it and i never saw it but aint we funkin now cant have the break on 7. don t think its on the lp either

LokoOne

There's a 45 version of Bob James - Take me to the Mardi Gras.... ah forget it too obvious ;)

Sobriety Won

Edwin Starr ?????? I Just Wanna Do My Thing - Intro break only.

ZZ Top - It's only love - Shortened break.

deezlee

Sobriety Won said:

Edwin Starr ?????? I Just Wanna Do My Thing - Intro break only.

That's good to know, though it looks like the Deathbreaks re-issue 45 has the long version w the break.

Sobriety Won

But that does not count.

:real_headz:

deezlee

Sobriety Won said:

But that does not count.

:real_headz:

I can't argue that but I'd like a couple copies regardless.