NAIVE NEWBIE WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT FILLY RECORDS

BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
edited May 2012 in Strut Central
WHAT IS THE SONG THAT GOES MEEEE ANNNND MISSUS... MISSUS JOOOONNNNES IS THAT FROM FILLY IF SO WHAT OTHER JAWNS SOUND LIKE THIS. THX.
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  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    i think i have back stabbers somewhere.
    is there a release that's a solid listen front to back and hard filed by anybody?

    you're kidding, don't you? So much great stuff, that I don't know where to start.

  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    nope, not kidding.
    plaese to share one PI long playing scorcher.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    nope, not kidding.
    plaese to share one PI long playing scorcher.

    Let's start with this:



    more to come later

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  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    ^^sounds good. i've never seen that one before.
    i'll def cop if i ever see it for cheap.

  • disco_chedisco_che 1,115 Posts
    I won't even start with this.

    How about doing a little homework. This is a keylabel in black music history, most of the stuff isn't expensive and you'll find it everywhere. Check the label on discogs, listen to youtube-clips, go to your local record store and listen through the Philly Int. bin. I'm never the first with little dude bashing but dude...find out yourself.

    BTW, anything good on CTI?

  • DJ_WubWubDJ_WubWub 874 Posts


    At least get the Phildelphia classics 2lp

  • skelskel You can't cheat karma 5,033 Posts
    Its all about Philly on 45 for me, 7 and 12

    I'd sell you the box set of comp LPs on Streetsounds from the late 80s but no fucker would pay the postage

    ::ice grill::

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    i think i have back stabbers somewhere.
    is there a release that's a solid listen front to back and hard filed by anybody?

    This is like asking, "Hey, I hear good things about this stuff called food - what should I check out?"

    Try this. Should be an easy pull.


  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    DocMcCoy said:


    This is like asking, "Hey, I hear good things about this stuff called food - what should I check out?"


    I like this comparison, totally to the point.

  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
    Hey,

    I would add these as well:





    I Disco_Che's exhortation for you to get in the trenches and learn about records.

    Peace,

    Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,782 Posts

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    This boxest on Harmless records has just been released and it should give you a good overview:



    Track Listing

    CD 1

    1. Zach's Fanfare # 2 Original Album Version 1.03 M.F.S.B.
    2. K-Jee Original Album Version 4.12 M.F.S.B.
    3. T.S.O.P. (The Sound Of Philadelphia) Original Single Version 3.17 M.F.S.B. feat The Three Degrees
    4. Message In The Music Original Single Version 3.21 The O'Jays
    5. Sexy Original Single Version 3:10 M.F.S.B.
    6. Let's Groove Original Single Version 3.03 Archie Bell & The Drells
    7. Backstabbers Original Single Version 3:03 The O'Jays
    8. The Love I Lost Original Single Version 3.32 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    9. When Will I See You Again Original Single Version 2.57 The Three Degrees
    10. I Love Music Original Album Version 6.51 The O'Jays
    11. I'll Always Love My Mama Original Single Version 2.41 The Intruders
    12. Year Of Decision Original Single Version 2:38 The Three Degrees
    13. The Soul City Walk Original Single Version 3.08 Archie Bell & The Drells
    14. Bad Luck Original Album Version 6.24 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    15. Do It Any Way You Wanna Original Single Version 3:14 People's Choice
    16. Philly Jump Original Album Version 5.06 Instant Funk
    17. Take Good Care Of Yourself Original Single Version 3.03 The Three Degrees
    18. Love Is The Message Original Album Version 6.36 M.F.S.B.
    19. Show You The Way To Go Original Single Version 3.28 The Jacksons
    20. Darlin' Darlin' Baby Original Album Version 4:17 The O'Jays

    Running Time CD1: 75.45

    CD 2

    1. Win Place or Show (She's A Winner) Original Single Version 2.27 The Intruders
    2. 992 Arguments Original Single Version 2.21 The O'Jays
    3. Dirty Ol' Man Original Single Version 3.12 The Three Degrees
    4. Satisfaction Guaranteed Or Take Your Love Back Original Single Version 3.26 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    5. Love Train Original Album Version 6.15 The O'Jays
    6. Get Down With The Philly Sound Original Album Version 4.29 M.F.S.B.
    7. Jam Jam Jam (All Night Long) Original Album Version 3.37 People's Choice
    8. A Nice Girl Like You Original Album Version 3.20 The Intruders
    9. If You Don't Know Me By Now Original Single Version 3.23 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    10. Me & Mrs Jones Original Album Version 4.47 Billy Paul
    11. Wake Up Everybody Original Album Version 7.31 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    12. For The Love Of Money Original Single Version 3.32 The O'Jays
    13. Don't Leave Me This Way Original Album Version 6.05 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    14. Livin' For The Weekend Original Single Version 2.52 The O'Jays
    15. You'll Never Find Another Love Like Mine Original Album Version 4:27 Lou Rawls
    16. Free Love Original Album Version 4:02 Jean Carn
    17. People Power Original Album Version 4:17 Billy Paul
    18. Nobody Could Take Your Place Original Album Version 5:01 Dee Dee Sharp Gamble

    Running Time CD 2: 75.34

    CD 3

    1. You're The Reason Why Original Single Version 3.03 The Ebonys
    2. Days Go By Original Single Version 2.36 Bobby Bennett
    3. New York City???s A Lonely Town Original Album Version 3.07 Dick Jensen
    4. Stop And Think Original Single Version 3.07 The Trammps
    5. One Day Of Peace Original Single Version 2.48 Love Committee
    6. The Devil Made Me Do It Original Single Version 4.30 Robert Upchurch
    7. Who In The World Original Single Version 3.59 The Ethics
    8. Do You Like The Way I Love Original Single Version 3.04 The Ebonys
    9. Never Let You Get Away From Me Extended Single Version 4.33 Anthony White
    10. I'm A Changed Person Original Single Version 3.13 Kaleidoscope
    11. If You Move, You Lose Original Single Version 2.57 Carolyn Crawford
    12. I'm So Glad I'm Me 3:03 Original Album Version 3.01 The Ebonys
    13. Can???t Believe That You Love Me Original Album Version 3.53 Bunny Sigler
    14. You Bring Out The Best In Me Original Single Version 3.15 Derek & Cyndi
    15. Hey Baby Original Single Version 2.52 Anthony White
    16. Where Do We Go From Here Original Album Version 4.27 The Trammps
    17. Good & Plenty Original Album Version 2.41 Carolyn Crawford
    18. Yellow Sunshine Original Album Version 4.07 Yellow Sunshine
    19. To Be Happy Is The Real Thing Original Album Version 3.22 The Intruders
    20. It's Forever Original Single Version 4.32 The Ebonys

    Running Time CD 3: 69.41

    CD 4

    1. Where Are All My Friends Original Single Version 3:20 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    2. Summertime And I???m Feeling Mellow Original Album Version 4.04 M.F.S.B.
    3. Let Life Flow Original Album Version 4:29 The O'Jays
    4. If You Wanna Go Back Original Album Version 3:20 Jean Carn
    5. It's Hard Not To Like You Original Album Version 3:59 Archie Bell & The Drells
    6. Party Time Man Original Album Version 5:13 The Futures
    7. Everyone's A Star Original Album Version 5:41 The Intruders
    8. Your Love Is Good Original Album Version 2:52 Bunny Sigler
    9. The Whole Town's Talking Original Album Version 4:44 Billy Paul
    10. So Glad I???m The One Original Album Version 3:15 Instant Funk
    11. Keep On Lovin' You Original Album Version 3:40 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
    12. Yes You Need Love Original Album Version 3:32 Anthony White
    13. It Ain't Reggae (But It???s Funky) Original Album Version 3:44 Instant Funk
    14. (You're The One) Someone Special Original Album Version 4.16 The Futures
    15. Keep Smilin' Original Album Version 5:55 Bunny Sigler
    16. I'm In Love Once Again Original Album Version 5.53 Jean Carn
    17. The Whole Town's Laughing At Me Original Album Version 4:27 Teddy Pendergrass
    18. Sooner Or Later Original Album Version 5.35 Billy Paul

    Running Time CD4: 78.33

    CD 5

    1. Let???s Make A Baby Original Album Version 3:48 Billy Paul
    2. Now That We Found Love Original Single Version 3.07 The O'Jays
    3. Blues Away Original Album Version 3.12 The Jacksons
    4. I Believe In Love Original Album Version 3.56 Dee Dee Sharp Gamble
    5. Easy, Easy, Got To Take It Easy Original Album Version 4.53 Teddy Pendergrass
    6. I Bet She Won't Love You Like I Do Original Album Version 3.16 Jean Carn
    7. Use To Be My Girl Original Single Version 3.21 The O'Jays
    8. Strength Of One Man Original Album Version 3.54 The Jacksons
    9. See You When I Git There Original Single Version 3.07 Lou Rawls
    10. Only You Original Album Version 5.05 Teddy Pendergrass
    11. Intro/My Love Don't Come Easy Original Album Version 5.07 Jean Carn
    12. Come On And Dance Dance Dance Original Album Version 5.28 Bunny Sigler
    13. This Feeling Is Killing Me Original Album Version 3.30 The Jones Girls
    14. Let ???Em In Original Single Version 3.32 Billy Paul
    15. Picture Us Original Album Version 2.34 Bunny Sigler
    16. Life Goes On Original Album Version 4.29 The Jones Girls
    17. Lady Love Original Album Version 4.00 Lou Rawls
    18. Where Will You Go When The Party's Over? Original Album Version 4.07 Archie Bell & The Drells

    Running Time CD5: 71.02

    CD 6

    1. The More I Get, The More I Want Original Album Version 4.27 Teddy Pendergrass
    2. Stop And Think It Over Original Album Version 4.24 Anthony White
    3. Living Together Original Album Version 4.26 The Jacksons
    4. (No, No) You Can't Come Back Now Original Album Version 2.28 Jean Carn
    5. You Can't Hide From Yourself Original Album Version 4.06 Teddy Pendergrass
    6. (I'm Just Thinking About) Cooling Out Original Single Version 3.35 Jerry Butler
    7. Only The Strong Survive Original Single Version 3:25 Billy Paul
    8. Use Ta Be My Guy Original Album Version 5.13 M.F.S.B.
    9. I Don't Love You Anymore Original Album Version 3.59 Teddy Pendergrass
    10. To Prove I Love You Original Album Version 4.11 The O???Jays
    11. Things Are Gonna Get Better Original Album Version 2.55 Bunny Sigler
    12. Not The Staying Kind Original Album Version 3.52 Lou Rawls
    13. Holdin' On Original Album Version 4.52 Dexter Wansel
    14. Don't Let Love Get You Down Original Album Version 4.20 Archie Bell & The Drells
    15. Let's Clean Up The Ghetto Original Album Version 4.51 The Philadelphia All Stars
    16. You???re Gonna Make Me Love Somebody Else Original Album Version 4.30 The Jones Girls
    17. What???s The Matter With The World? Original Album Version 5.56 Lou Rawls
    18. When Somebody Loves You Back Original Album Version 4.58 Teddy Pendergrass

    Running Time CD6: 78.57

    CD 7

    1. Life On Mars Original Album Version 5.51 Dexter Wansel
    2. Soncer?? (The Infinite Hour Glass) Original Album Version 6.20 Michael Pedicin Jr.
    3. Tight Money Original Album Version 4.48 Leon Huff
    4. Compared To What Original Album Version 5.20 Billy Paul
    5. For The Love of Money Original Album Version 4.12 Thad Jones & Mel Lewis
    6. Something For Nothing Original Album Version 2.58 M.F.S.B.
    7. Lover Man (Oh Where Can You Be) Original Album Version 4.06 Patti LaBelle
    8. Manhattan Skyline Original Album Version 4.47 M.F.S.B.
    9. In Good Faith Original Album Version 5.12 Norman Harris
    10. Reality Original Album Version 5.36 Monk Montgomery
    11. Forever With You Original Album Version 4.18 Phyllis Hyman
    12. My Favourite Person Original Album Version 4.14 The Rojas
    13. I Ain't Jivin???, I'm Jammin??? Original Album Version 5.55 Leon Huff
    14. Mysteries of the World Original Album Version 5.28 M.F.S.B.
    15. Theme from The Planets Original Album Version 4.52 Dexter Wansel
    16. Malorie Original Album Version 3.46 Billy Paul

    Running Time CD7: 78.16

    CD 8

    1. Come Go With Me Original Album Version 5.48 Teddy Pendergrass
    2. Don't Let It Go To Your Head Original Album Version 4.51 Jean Carn
    3. Mine All Mine Original Album Version 4.31 The Stylistics
    4. I'm In Love Again Original Album Version 5.52 Patti LaBelle
    5. Brandy Original Album Version 4.13 The O'Jays
    6. The Sweetest Pain Original Album Version 5.42 Dexter Wansel
    7. Ain't No Time Fa Nothing Original Album Version 5.29 The Futures
    8. When I???m Gone Original Album Version 4.48 The Jones Girls
    9. Turn Off The Lights Original Album Version 5.54 Teddy Pendergrass
    10. I Can???t Stop (Turning You On) Original Album Version 3.56 Silk
    11. I've Been Pushed Aside Original Album Version 5.11 McFadden & Whitehead
    12. We Got Some Catchin' Up To Do Original Album Version 5.02 Jean Carn
    13. Maybe It's Love This Time Original Album Version 4.09 The Stylistics
    14. Who Can I Run To Original 12??? Extended Mix 4.43 The Jones Girls
    15. Close The Door Original Album Version 3.33 Teddy Pendergrass
    16. Children Of The Night Original Album Version 5.12 The Jones Girls
    Running Time CD8: 79.22

    CD 9

    1. Ain't No Stoppin' Us Now Original Album Version 7.01 McFadden & Whitehead
    2. Was That All It Was Original 12??? Mix 6.28 Jean Carn
    3. Bring The Family Back Original Album Version 5.00 Billy Paul
    4. Nights Over Egypt Original Album Version 4.40 The Jones Girls
    5. Put Our Heads Together Original Album Version 5.41 The O'Jays
    6. Keep It Comin' Original Album Version 4.48 The Jones Girls
    7. I Heard It In A Love Song Original Album Version 5.11 McFadden & Whitehead
    8. The Spirit's In It Original Album Version 5.49 Patti LaBelle
    9. Strut Your Funky Stuff Original Single Version 3.37 Frantique
    10. What's Your Name Original Album Version 4.53 The Stylistics
    11. Dance Turned Into Romance Original Album Version 4.28 The Jones Girls
    12. Strategy Original Album Version 6.55 Archie Bell & The Drells
    13. I Love You Anyway Original Album Version 4.30 Dee Dee Sharp Gamble
    14. Betcha Lucky Star Original Album Version 4.51 Jean Carn
    15. Let Me Be Good To You Original Album Version 5.28 Lou Rawls

    Running Time CD9: 79.48

    CD 10

    1. Love You Direct Original Album Version 3.51 The O'Jays
    2. Ain't You Had Enough Love Original Album Version 4.13 Phyllis Hyman
    3. Somebody's Gotta Move Original Album Version 5.12 The Dells
    4. Do You Get Enough Love Original Album Version 4.36 Shirley Jones
    5. First Time Together Original Album Version 4.03 Phyllis Hyman
    6. I Can't Forget You Original Album Version 4.30 Patti LaBelle
    7. Hurry Up This Way Again Original Album Version 5.53 The Stylistics
    8. Easy Money Original Album Version 4.03 Dee Dee Sharp Gamble
    9. Summer Fling Original Album Version 4.49 The O'Jays
    10. This Too Shall Pass Original Album Version 5.27 Phyllis Hyman
    11. Baby Don't Go Away Mad Original Album Version 4.38 The Dells
    12. She Knew About Me Original Album Version 4.35 Shirley Jones
    13. If Only You Knew Original Album Version 4.44 Patti LaBelle
    14. Extraordinary Girl Original Single Version 5.19 The O'Jays
    15. Heaven Only Knows Original Album Version 4.07 Teddy Pendergrass
    16. Baby Don't Go, Yet Original Single Version 5.23 The Jones Girls

    Running Time CD10: 75.54

  • love this from billy paul...



    (i also wanted to post up bunny sigler's "cry my eyes out" but double-checked and it's a post-philly internation release. but check it anyway because it is philadelphia related.)

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    That boxset is :face_melt: :face_melt: :face_melt: :face_melt: :face_melt:

  • FlomotionFlomotion 2,390 Posts
    DJ_WubWub said:


    At least get the Phildelphia classics 2lp

    Listening to this just last night - always sounds great. And it has only version of Don't Leave Me This Way that I can handle.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Read...


  • BallzDeepBallzDeep 612 Posts
    LOL dudes,
    i was just asking for your hard filed PI records, the ones you think are great.
    As in specfic examples.

    YES I REALIZE THIS LABEL IS AMAZING AND VAST AND HOMEWORK IS NECESSARY.
    But a thread is easier, and provides a chance for some palaver.

    Comparing PI to food? Really?

    It looks like PI is about 45s.
    Or a nice comp.

    Thanks.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    HarveyCanal said:
    Read...


    I gotta check this.

  • finelikewinefinelikewine "ONCE UPON A TIME, I HAD A VINYL." http://www.discogs.com/user/permabulker 1,416 Posts
    BallzDeep said:


    It looks like PI is about 45s.
    Or a nice comp.

    Thanks.

    No you're totally wrong. It is all about the albums & 12"s.

    For example this is a beautiful cohesive album:

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts

  • AKallDayAKallDay 830 Posts



    thread is weird to me having been raised on this stuff in philadelphia but you gotta start somewhere

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    apropos


  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    BallzDeep said:
    .

    Comparing PI to food? Really?

    It looks like PI is about 45s.
    Or a nice comp.

    Thanks.

    Sorry, I had a feeling that would come off sounding snotty. But in my defence, you did phrase the question kind of badly. I meant it in the sense that, if you're into black music, that shit is amongst the fundamentals. You can get it for cheap, most of it's really good and, at its best, it's some high-water mark type shit. Put simply, I judge people who can tell you all about obscure moder one-trackers from fly-by-night indies in Fresno or Decatur, yet don't own War Of The Gods.

    Like most r&b labels back then, PIR was largely singles-driven. But Gamble & Huff had been around for a while and were always quick to plug into the trends of the day. So you could grab an album by The O'Jays or Billy Paul or Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes and, in between the big hits everyone knows, there'd be these long Whitfield-esque workouts with lyrics covering social issues or black consciousness and self-determination. There was a lot of quite subversive Garveyite shit on their productions that you weren't really hearing all that much in mainstream black music - certainly not from acts that were regularly getting hit records - until Marley broke through, and by that time PIR had arguably already peaked.

    There are some pretty thorough compilations out there, of course. But just about all the key PIR acts had solid albums that are worth copping. Don't sleep on the 80s stuff either.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    A better analogy might be "air". If you're talking about the sound of black music in the mid-late 70s, it's basically what it is.

    another classique, on teh ballad tip


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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    I highly recommend Post-Motown Jackson under Gamble and Huff. Recording in Philly and incorporating alot of their Muslim messages.



    Released in 1976 for Epic Records and Philadelphia International Records as a joint venture. The album was the band's first for CBS, following their seven-year tenure on Motown as "The Jackson 5". Jackson 5 member Jermaine Jackson stayed with Motown when his brothers broke their contracts and defected to CBS; he was replaced by youngest Jackson brother Randy.
    Philadelphia International heads Kenneth Gamble and Leon Huff produced and executive produced the album, including their first top ten hit in two years "Enjoy Yourself", but had a difficult time focusing on a sound for the now-grown-up boy band. However, the group was able for the first time to write their own material, something that had been denied to them at Motown. The Jacksons composed "Style of Life" and "Blues Away" on their own. "Blues Away" was the first published song written by lead singer Michael Jackson, who began to take a more percussive vocal approach beginning with this album. This album also spawned the second R&B single "Show You the Way to Go". The album itself placed #36 and #6 on the pop and R&B album charts respectively.



    Isnt there an interview on NPR with Gamble and Huff that came out when they dropped the comp?

  • RAJRAJ tenacious local 7,782 Posts

  • strataspherestratasphere Blastin' the Nasty 1,035 Posts
    batmon said:
    I highly recommend Post-Motown Jackson under Gamble and Huff. Recording in Philly and incorporating alot of their Muslim messages.



    Released in 1976 for Epic Records and Philadelphia International Records as a joint venture. The album was the band's first for CBS, following their seven-year tenure on Motown as "The Jackson 5". Jackson 5 member Jermaine Jackson stayed with Motown when his brothers broke their contracts and defected to CBS; he was replaced by youngest Jackson brother Randy.
    Philadelphia International heads Kenneth Gamble and Leon Huff produced and executive produced the album, including their first top ten hit in two years "Enjoy Yourself", but had a difficult time focusing on a sound for the now-grown-up boy band. However, the group was able for the first time to write their own material, something that had been denied to them at Motown. The Jacksons composed "Style of Life" and "Blues Away" on their own. "Blues Away" was the first published song written by lead singer Michael Jackson, who began to take a more percussive vocal approach beginning with this album. This album also spawned the second R&B single "Show You the Way to Go". The album itself placed #36 and #6 on the pop and R&B album charts respectively.



    Isnt there an interview on NPR with Gamble and Huff that came out when they dropped the comp?


    Major I put the Good Times track on a cd for a couple of my regulars and they didn't catch on until 3 or 4 days later that it was the jacksons, a criminally slept on record in my opinion.

  • Big_ChanBig_Chan 5,088 Posts
    FIRE........

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