Waxpoetics' 'music industry confession' - Hip hop lizard people funtimes

OkemOkem 4,617 Posts
edited April 2012 in Strut Central
Has theStrut seen this yet? http://www.waxpoetics.com/blog/news/music-industry-confession

Thought some of you might enjoy it. Seems like a desperate ploy for internet hits if you ask me, kinda sad really.
We love a good conspiracy theory. But even the ones that ring true can???t always be trusted. But then again, our entire global history is rife with real conspiracies, not just theories.

Wax Poetics, along with many other good people in the music and publishing industry, received this email today from an anonymous source claiming to be a former insider. We have chosen to post this for our audience to read, but we neither support nor argue against the claims of Mr. ???John Smith.???


After more than 20 years, I???ve finally decided to tell the world what I witnessed in 1991, which I believe was one of the biggest turning point in popular music, and ultimately American society. I have struggled for a long time weighing the pros and cons of making this story public as I was reluctant to implicate the individuals who were present that day. So I???ve simply decided to leave out names and all the details that may risk my personal well being and that of those who were, like me, dragged into something they weren???t ready for.

Between the late 80???s and early 90???s, I was what you may call a ???decision maker??? with one of the more established company in the music industry. I came from Europe in the early 80???s and quickly established myself in the business. The industry was different back then. Since technology and media weren???t accessible to people like they are today, the industry had more control over the public and had the means to influence them anyway it wanted. This may explain why in early 1991, I was invited to attend a closed door meeting with a small group of music business insiders to discuss rap music???s new direction. Little did I know that we would be asked to participate in one of the most unethical and destructive business practice I???ve ever seen.

The meeting was held at a private residence on the outskirts of Los Angeles. I remember about 25 to 30 people being there, most of them familiar faces. Speaking to those I knew, we joked about the theme of the meeting as many of us did not care for rap music and failed to see the purpose of being invited to a private gathering to discuss its future. Among the attendees was a small group of unfamiliar faces who stayed to themselves and made no attempt to socialize beyond their circle. Based on their behavior and formal appearances, they didn???t seem to be in our industry. Our casual chatter was interrupted when we were asked to sign a confidentiality agreement preventing us from publicly discussing the information presented during the meeting. Needless to say, this intrigued and in some cases disturbed many of us. The agreement was only a page long but very clear on the matter and consequences which stated that violating the terms would result in job termination. We asked several people what this meeting was about and the reason for such secrecy but couldn???t find anyone who had answers for us. A few people refused to sign and walked out. No one stopped them. I was tempted to follow but curiosity got the best of me. A man who was part of the ???unfamiliar??? group collected the agreements from us.

Quickly after the meeting began, one of my industry colleagues (who shall remain nameless like everyone else) thanked us for attending. He then gave the floor to a man who only introduced himself by first name and gave no further details about his personal background. I think he was the owner of the residence but it was never confirmed. He briefly praised all of us for the success we had achieved in our industry and congratulated us for being selected as part of this small group of ???decision makers???. At this point I begin to feel slightly uncomfortable at the strangeness of this gathering. The subject quickly changed as the speaker went on to tell us that the respective companies we represented had invested in a very profitable industry which could become even more rewarding with our active involvement. He explained that the companies we work for had invested millions into the building of privately owned prisons and that our positions of influence in the music industry would actually impact the profitability of these investments. I remember many of us in the group immediately looking at each other in confusion. At the time, I didn???t know what a private prison was but I wasn???t the only one. Sure enough, someone asked what these prisons were and what any of this had to do with us. We were told that these prisons were built by privately owned companies who received funding from the government based on the number of inmates. The more inmates, the more money the government would pay these prisons. It was also made clear to us that since these prisons are privately owned, as they become publicly traded, we???d be able to buy shares. Most of us were taken back by this. Again, a couple of people asked what this had to do with us. At this point, my industry colleague who had first opened the meeting took the floor again and answered our questions. He told us that since our employers had become silent investors in this prison business, it was now in their interest to make sure that these prisons remained filled. Our job would be to help make this happen by marketing music which promotes criminal behavior, rap being the music of choice. He assured us that this would be a great situation for us because rap music was becoming an increasingly profitable market for our companies, and as employee, we???d also be able to buy personal stocks in these prisons. Immediately, silence came over the room. You could have heard a pin drop. I remember looking around to make sure I wasn???t dreaming and saw half of the people with dropped jaws. My daze was interrupted when someone shouted, ???Is this a f****** joke???? At this point things became chaotic. Two of the men who were part of the ???unfamiliar??? group grabbed the man who shouted out and attempted to remove him from the house. A few of us, myself included, tried to intervene. One of them pulled out a gun and we all backed off. They separated us from the crowd and all four of us were escorted outside. My industry colleague who had opened the meeting earlier hurried out to meet us and reminded us that we had signed agreement and would suffer the consequences of speaking about this publicly or even with those who attended the meeting. I asked him why he was involved with something this corrupt and he replied that it was bigger than the music business and nothing we???d want to challenge without risking consequences. We all protested and as he walked back into the house I remember word for word the last thing he said, ???It???s out of my hands now. Remember you signed an agreement.??? He then closed the door behind him. The men rushed us to our cars and actually watched until we drove off.

A million things were going through my mind as I drove away and I eventually decided to pull over and park on a side street in order to collect my thoughts. I replayed everything in my mind repeatedly and it all seemed very surreal to me. I was angry with myself for not having taken a more active role in questioning what had been presented to us. I???d like to believe the shock of it all is what suspended my better nature. After what seemed like an eternity, I was able to calm myself enough to make it home. I didn???t talk or call anyone that night. The next day back at the office, I was visibly out of it but blamed it on being under the weather. No one else in my department had been invited to the meeting and I felt a sense of guilt for not being able to share what I had witnessed. I thought about contacting the 3 others who wear kicked out of the house but I didn???t remember their names and thought that tracking them down would probably bring unwanted attention. I considered speaking out publicly at the risk of losing my job but I realized I???d probably be jeopardizing more than my job and I wasn???t willing to risk anything happening to my family. I thought about those men with guns and wondered who they were? I had been told that this was bigger than the music business and all I could do was let my imagination run free. There were no answers and no one to talk to. I tried to do a little bit of research on private prisons but didn???t uncover anything about the music business??? involvement. However, the information I did find confirmed how dangerous this prison business really was. Days turned into weeks and weeks into months. Eventually, it was as if the meeting had never taken place. It all seemed surreal. I became more reclusive and stopped going to any industry events unless professionally obligated to do so. On two occasions, I found myself attending the same function as my former colleague. Both times, our eyes met but nothing more was exchanged.

As the months passed, rap music had definitely changed direction. I was never a fan of it but even I could tell the difference. Rap acts that talked about politics or harmless fun were quickly fading away as gangster rap started dominating the airwaves. Only a few months had passed since the meeting but I suspect that the ideas presented that day had been successfully implemented. It was as if the order has been given to all major label executives. The music was climbing the charts and most companies when more than happy to capitalize on it. Each one was churning out their very own gangster rap acts on an assembly line. Everyone bought into it, consumers included. Violence and drug use became a central theme in most rap music. I spoke to a few of my peers in the industry to get their opinions on the new trend but was told repeatedly that it was all about supply and demand. Sadly many of them even expressed that the music reinforced their prejudice of minorities.

I officially quit the music business in 1993 but my heart had already left months before. I broke ties with the majority of my peers and removed myself from this thing I had once loved. I took some time off, returned to Europe for a few years, settled out of state, and lived a ???quiet??? life away from the world of entertainment. As the years passed, I managed to keep my secret, fearful of sharing it with the wrong person but also a little ashamed of not having had the balls to blow the whistle. But as rap got worse, my guilt grew. Fortunately, in the late 90???s, having the internet as a resource which wasn???t at my disposal in the early days made it easier for me to investigate what is now labeled the prison industrial complex. Now that I have a greater understanding of how private prisons operate, things make much more sense than they ever have. I see how the criminalization of rap music played a big part in promoting racial stereotypes and misguided so many impressionable young minds into adopting these glorified criminal behaviors which often lead to incarceration. Twenty years of guilt is a heavy load to carry but the least I can do now is to share my story, hoping that fans of rap music realize how they???ve been used for the past 2 decades. Although I plan on remaining anonymous for obvious reasons, my goal now is to get this information out to as many people as possible. Please help me spread the word. Hopefully, others who attended the meeting back in 1991 will be inspired by this and tell their own stories. Most importantly, if only one life has been touched by my story, I pray it makes the weight of my guilt a little more tolerable.

Thank you.


  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,785 Posts
    But as rap got worse, my guilt grew.

    But as rap got worse, my guilt grew.

    But as rap got worse, my guilt grew.

    But as rap got worse, my guilt grew.

    But as rap got worse, my guilt grew.


    After some marination, it all seems plausible enough.

  • JuniorJunior 4,853 Posts
    Yeah that line plus the bit about the guns made me chortle the most.

    This would all be far more plausible if for the fact that I have no fucking idea what he's referring to with the rappers that made "political or harmless fun" means. PE? De La Soul? ATCQ? Fat Boys?

    Also, does the rise of Drake mean that all private prison contracts have been bought out by the government. Or by Canada?

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    It's not plausible that a bunch of record execs could have kept a secret like this for 20 years.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    CIA brought the drugs and guns in. People have a hard time believing that to be the case to this day. Shit, Gary Webb even got suicided over it. But yeah, I could see how companies could simply say...let''s push this style instead of that style. Not that drastic a conspiracy really.

  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    Funny how Time Warner pretty much immediately caved in to government and media pressure over that whole Cop Killer business (and yes, I'm aware that Cop Killer isn't actually a rap record) about a year after this meeting is supposed to have taken place. Some conspiracy.

    Yet more proof that the internet is the most powerful idiot magnet in the world.

  • DORDOR Two Ron Toe 9,900 Posts

  • z_illaz_illa 867 Posts
    mannybolone said:
    It's not plausible that a bunch of record execs could have kept a secret like this for 20 years.

    However it is completely plausible that a bunch of hip hop scholars would react to hearing this story in 2012 like it's the first time they heard it and it has been a secret all this time.

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    hip hop scholars

    Please Great Britain, tell us more about this hip-hop.

  • DuderonomyDuderonomy Haut de la Garenne 7,785 Posts
    HarveyCanal said:
    hip hop scholars

    Please Great Britain, tell us more about this hip-hop.

    It's not as collectible as Northern.

  • LoopDreamsLoopDreams 1,195 Posts

    as many of us did not care for rap music


    But as rap got worse, my guilt grew.


  • leonleon 883 Posts
    "if pac-man had affected us as kids we'd all be running around in dark rooms munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music".

  • cookbookcookbook 783 Posts
    leon said:
    "if pac-man had affected us as kids we'd all be running around in dark rooms munching pills and listening to repetitive electronic music".


  • DanteDante 371 Posts
    -super bad look for waxpoetics to just throw this out there without any editorial work. leveling themselves with any weirdo blogger.

    -industry people might be able to identify an euroman (possibly british) that came to the americas in the early 80s, was a 'decision maker' in one of the more established company [sic] in music, and retired around '93.

    -scroll down and read the comment made by Peter Marriott. if it is him, it's much more interesting than the gun story.

  • ReynaldoReynaldo 6,054 Posts
    He still has no balls for not naming names.


    I blame noz.

  • disco_chedisco_che 1,115 Posts
    From the comments:

    It???s like Goldfinger explaining his whole evil plan in detail to Bond, but with a NDA instead of a laser.

    I was there! Dre handed out the papers, Cube and Snoop had toy guns.


  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
    disco_che said:
    From the comments:

    I was there!

    "When the secret meeting that changed rap music and destroyed a generation took place, I was there!"

  • ElectrodeElectrode Los Angeles 3,087 Posts


  • DawhudDawhud 213 Posts
    That's nuts that Waxpo would throw that up there like that. That's the type of stupid "journalism" crap that Fox pulls.

    Here's what happened... Dre dropped "The Chronic" and it made a lot of money and 2Pac dropped "Me Against The World" and it SOLD well while he was in jail. They saw it as a business model to sell to middle America.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    The. War. On. Drugs.

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts
    can someone sum this up for me pls?

    I skipped the opening post (too long).

    and the posts that follow make no sense.


  • DawhudDawhud 213 Posts
    Private companies that own prisons had the music industry push gangster rap so there would be more people in jail so they could make more money.

  • volumenvolumen 2,532 Posts
    Yea, because the general public is in no way obsessed with sex, violence and crime so they had to create music that would encourage such behavior. Prior to 1990 we were all pussy cats.

    Which came first the chicken or the egg?

    Oh yea, and the music industry has a clue what it's doing other than riding artists coat tails.

  • DawhudDawhud 213 Posts
    Also, why would it just be focusing on hip hop and not other genres? If the bottom line is to have higher prison populations I would think they would have also wanted to push more violent music in other genres, like some ICP type bullshit. In fact ICP is an example of HOW the music industry saw a large devotion of fans, but thought the music was TOO harsh and watered it down to the mass market. (i.e. Limp Biscuit, Korn and other Rap/Metal bands of the early 00s)

  • leonleon 883 Posts
    Little did they know this evil-breeding hiphop would find huge audiences in foreign countries, filling peniteniaries all over the globe with hiphop-lovers-turned-evil.

  • leonleon 883 Posts

  • YemskyYemsky 709 Posts

  • dj_cityboydj_cityboy 1,461 Posts
    Yemsky said:

  • SunfadeSunfade 799 Posts
    edit: didn't see second page

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    At the same time there was a Country Music conspiracy that involved beer, trucks, DWI's, ventriloquists, mind control, sex slaves, politicians and Bob Hope.

  • edulusedulus 421 Posts
    also, it's just cheaper to get laws changed so that you have more felonies than to do something like this that would be dubious in its efficacy, at best.
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