You don't hear a whole helluva lot of Tip in his music?
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
hogginthefogg said:
You don't hear a whole helluva lot of Tip in his music?
In a vague, they're both from the Souf sorta way, yes. But beyond that, no. I think Krit naming UGK, Scarface, 8ball and MJG, and Three 6 Mafia in Dreamin' covers it a long way before TI ever comes up.
You don't hear a whole helluva lot of Tip in his music?
In a vague, they're both from the Souf sorta way, yes. But beyond that, no. I think Krit naming UGK, Scarface, 8ball and MJG, and Three 6 Mafia in Dreamin' covers it a long way before TI ever comes up.
Truthfully, I had way more "problems" with the constant Outkast references and the Pimp C persona than that bit of T.I. in his style. But god damn if shit like "Time Machine" isn't good. And using that Roy Ayers/Casual sample now? I can't front.
I hear more Juicy J (especially in some of the hooks) than anything TI.
First time listening to the Country Shit remix and Krit's verse started and I was like aw man he didn't record a new verse and then bam. Huge smile on my face.
You don't hear a whole helluva lot of Tip in his music?
In a vague, they're both from the Souf sorta way, yes. But beyond that, no. I think Krit naming UGK, Scarface, 8ball and MJG, and Three 6 Mafia in Dreamin' covers it a long way before TI ever comes up.
That's exactly the problem with this dude--his music is a poorly executed facsimile of stuff those dudes were doing ~15 years ago.
It is totally derivative and really no better than that of NYC-oriented backpackers.
I cannot imagine sitting around and listening to this stuff. Boring. I am surprised you ride for it, Robert.
stuff like 'time machine' & 'kings blues' transcend that & are just solid rap jams regardless of influence. he can hit on some touching stuff too. mad overrated bcuz of what he 'represents' but he has made some great music
the t.i. influence was extraordinarily strong on 'the last king' tape --
tell me this isn't some straight T.I. style spitting--
but imo he's left that behind. he still has the pimp c thing. when he gets 'personal' it tends not to sound too much like pimp tho, cuz pimp wasn't as much of an introvert. krit is less convincing when he gets callous like pimp so he channels dude i think
stuff like 'time machine' & 'kings blues' transcend that & are just solid rap jams regardless of influence. he can hit on some touching stuff too. mad overrated bcuz of what he 'represents' but he has made some great music
the t.i. influence was extraordinarily strong on 'the last king' tape --
but imo he's left that behind. he still has the pimp c thing. when he gets 'personal' it tends not to sound too much like pimp tho, cuz pimp wasn't as much of an introvert. krit is less convincing when he gets callous like pimp so he channels dude i think
I agree with pretty much all of this. And I admit to chuckling at Harvey posting up a Big K.R.I:T. song-- complete with a Goodie Mob/2Pac acronym--as proof that hip hop is still vibrant. Fresh like '95.
I wasn't too crazy about KRIT wuz Here ("why listen to this, when I can listen to x do it better"). But I enjoy this new one a whole lot. It may be derivative, but dude's sincerity, production prowess and energy never let it feel stagnant.
For what it's worth, I can tell you all that folk down here in the South seem pretty excited about K.R.I.T. And, why not? The dude has strong lyrical content, makes his own beats, and the joints knock! I had my doubts about this new release. How could it live up to the hype and expectations of the first one? Surprisingly, it does.
Had a couple of listens through it now. I still think I prefer krit wuz here at the moment though this album seems tailor made for when the spring/summer properly kicks in. Sounded so much better when played in the sunshine and warm weather at the weekend.
All in all there's some really good songs on here but to me it all feels, for want of a better description, a bit safe. I can see why he's being championed so hard as he's done a decent job of going down that middle road and appealing to fans of both dungeon family era and modern TI/later UGK material but it hasn't really floored me at any stage yet while krit wuz here just all sounded a bit rawer. Personal preference I guess.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
faux_rillz said:
HarveyCanal said:
hogginthefogg said:
You don't hear a whole helluva lot of Tip in his music?
In a vague, they're both from the Souf sorta way, yes. But beyond that, no. I think Krit naming UGK, Scarface, 8ball and MJG, and Three 6 Mafia in Dreamin' covers it a long way before TI ever comes up.
That's exactly the problem with this dude--his music is a poorly executed facsimile of stuff those dudes were doing ~15 years ago.
It is totally derivative and really no better than that of NYC-oriented backpackers.
I cannot imagine sitting around and listening to this stuff. Boring. I am surprised you ride for it, Robert.
Color yourself extremely out of touch. I, and many others, know exactly what we like from rap music, and Krit delivers it on all cylinders. Plus, he's not a facsimile in my mind in any way. He's influenced by a bunch of artists we already like, but doesn't do it exactly like any of them. The people who say he's copying TI or Pimp C or whoever are merely lazy listeners IMO.
You don't hear a whole helluva lot of Tip in his music?
In a vague, they're both from the Souf sorta way, yes. But beyond that, no. I think Krit naming UGK, Scarface, 8ball and MJG, and Three 6 Mafia in Dreamin' covers it a long way before TI ever comes up.
That's exactly the problem with this dude--his music is a poorly executed facsimile of stuff those dudes were doing ~15 years ago.
It is totally derivative and really no better than that of NYC-oriented backpackers.
I cannot imagine sitting around and listening to this stuff. Boring. I am surprised you ride for it, Robert.
Color yourself extremely out of touch. I, and many others, know exactly what we like from rap music, and Krit delivers it on all cylinders.
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http://nardwuar.com/vid/2011/03/nardwuar-vs-big-krit/
*edit* im all for lil b's "positive message" game tho...
keeping rap in tents?
"Can't spell K.R.I.T. without T.I."
Sorry, but...U out yo damned mind, bruh.
In a vague, they're both from the Souf sorta way, yes. But beyond that, no. I think Krit naming UGK, Scarface, 8ball and MJG, and Three 6 Mafia in Dreamin' covers it a long way before TI ever comes up.
Truthfully, I had way more "problems" with the constant Outkast references and the Pimp C persona than that bit of T.I. in his style. But god damn if shit like "Time Machine" isn't good. And using that Roy Ayers/Casual sample now? I can't front.
First time listening to the Country Shit remix and Krit's verse started and I was like aw man he didn't record a new verse and then bam. Huge smile on my face.
karaoke retards, imitate this
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Kool-aid doesn't Run In These veins.
That's exactly the problem with this dude--his music is a poorly executed facsimile of stuff those dudes were doing ~15 years ago.
It is totally derivative and really no better than that of NYC-oriented backpackers.
I cannot imagine sitting around and listening to this stuff. Boring. I am surprised you ride for it, Robert.
stuff like 'time machine' & 'kings blues' transcend that & are just solid rap jams regardless of influence. he can hit on some touching stuff too. mad overrated bcuz of what he 'represents' but he has made some great music
the t.i. influence was extraordinarily strong on 'the last king' tape --
tell me this isn't some straight T.I. style spitting--
but imo he's left that behind. he still has the pimp c thing. when he gets 'personal' it tends not to sound too much like pimp tho, cuz pimp wasn't as much of an introvert. krit is less convincing when he gets callous like pimp so he channels dude i think
Who said that? I just reread this thread and didn't see anyone make that claim
Or did you mean "IS this dude the future?" If so, I'd say no. He just makes good, enjoyable music.
Is he the "truth"?
Depends who you ask. If you're asking me, define "truth."
I agree with pretty much all of this. And I admit to chuckling at Harvey posting up a Big K.R.I:T. song-- complete with a Goodie Mob/2Pac acronym--as proof that hip hop is still vibrant. Fresh like '95.
I wasn't too crazy about KRIT wuz Here ("why listen to this, when I can listen to x do it better"). But I enjoy this new one a whole lot. It may be derivative, but dude's sincerity, production prowess and energy never let it feel stagnant.
Some moron in the other recent KRIT thread did predict that he would "save hip-hop"
All in all there's some really good songs on here but to me it all feels, for want of a better description, a bit safe. I can see why he's being championed so hard as he's done a decent job of going down that middle road and appealing to fans of both dungeon family era and modern TI/later UGK material but it hasn't really floored me at any stage yet while krit wuz here just all sounded a bit rawer. Personal preference I guess.
Color yourself extremely out of touch. I, and many others, know exactly what we like from rap music, and Krit delivers it on all cylinders. Plus, he's not a facsimile in my mind in any way. He's influenced by a bunch of artists we already like, but doesn't do it exactly like any of them. The people who say he's copying TI or Pimp C or whoever are merely lazy listeners IMO.
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