Is There Any Record That Sells For Four Figures
Rockadelic
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That the majority of strutters all agree is worth that kind of money??
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Lps ? Sarah Webster Fabios Folkways would be hard to dislike Bobby Boyd Congress first lp on Okapi. Marijata the blue one hard to begrudge them.
As I was typing....
Think again.
Agreed.
It's been my experience in the world of psych/rock collecting that there are some titles that no one will argue are not worth $1,000+.
For the most part these are records that have held that kind of value for 10+ years and even the re-issues sell for over $100.
A few off the top of my head would be....
Index
The Bachs
Bent Wind
Paebiru
Aguaturbia 1&2
Tarkus
Kaleidoscope (Mexico)
O'Seis 7"
Rob
any of these got breakz yo?
I heard that DR Hooker is now worth over $1000 because it was on a Stone Throw comp
Wouldn't Mariani's Perpetuum Mobile or The Moon Blood record count as far as psych records are concerned as well as the Music Emporium? I've seen the latter get crazy figures when they were auctioned.
If your talking about Psych n tings definetely Paebiru and Aguaturbia I just dont get the Tarkus. The first Can lp would have to be there definetely the Index mentioned above. Ithaca , Mark Fry etc I wouldnt say no to that Israeli Churchills lp.
If there does seem to be more unanimity in the psych/rock world, I suspect that it might be because that school of collecting has been around long enough and has been codified enough that the disparity has shrunk closer to the point where the market becomes the taste. The crate-digging school of collecting--which, vigorously as some may front, remains the absolute engine behind soulstrut--is definitely getting to that point, too, but is for the moment just young enough that a big slice of its constituency can still say "fuck your heroes" with a straight face.
But yeah, I assumed that here you were talking about the latter, more ephemeral definition of "worth," since I took this thread as an extension of your points in the Black Out thread, which seemed based more on the inherent value idea. Over there, you seemed rueful that folks could not grasp the abstract worthiness of stuff like Black Out and the Soulettes (for what it's worth, I was kinda shaking my head, too).
Maybe I read you and this thread wrong, though. If you were in fact asking whether there are records that soulstrut can agree would sell for four figures, then I'd like to change my answer to "Yeah, probably."
Pat Thomas Presents... Marijata
Dark OG
Modulo 1000
there should be no rap records that sell for 4 figures in 2010.
Just remember: in the world of "collectible consumerism" records are pretty fucking low on that totem polem compared to other forms of mass-produced items that people assign high value to. Look at the used book market for example. Arguing over whether a record is worth "four figures" is laughable to other markets where loot like that is small time.
Thanks Dad, now go back to your antique sign collecting and rare table lamps. ;)
Yeah, there was somebody walking around at WFMU who was selling them - was it done in Brazil or the U.S?
Seriously, no offense, dude, but your post reminds me of that story by Henry Gates or whoever where he laughs at some academic who was pushing the idea of race being "a trope," saying that yeah, he (Gates) can imagine standing on a street corner waving his arms at all the cabs that won't stop for him, yelling "No, you don't understand--it's just a trope!"
The fact that this stuff doesn't matter to everyone everywhere has no bearing whatsoever on its currency right here, and while there's definitely an argument to be made against these kinds of threads, I know you know that "Hey, four figures ain't shit!" is not that argument. C'mon, son.
I think in the world of collectibles an item is only worth what someone is willing to pay......and when establishing a "value" you have to throw out the high and low of any multiple sampling of sales of the same item. Just because one nut is willing to pay an outrageous amount for an item, that doesn't establish that item's worth(unless it's "one-of-a-kind" item).
I completely understand having the opinion that no piece of plastic containing music being intrinsically "worth" four figures. But if that is your stance, it pretty much eliminates you from the discussion of what may or may not be "worth" four figures.
Like someone said earlier, If a record is too much for you just put it aside and hopefully it'll come back around. I've found crazy raers / grails over the yrs for next to nothing. If you're a digger, DIG. If you're rich, STOP PLAYING WITH RECORDS and Go buy yourself a damn house.
The point in noting the pricing differences in different schools of collecting is the dollar value is ultimately arbitrary. My point - perhaps poorly stated - wasn't that we can't argue over whether a record is or isn't "worth" 4 digits. It's that the idea - circulated by some in this thread - that no record could EVER be worth that much.
I'm all for arguing over relative worth but I have little patience with absolutes that suggest there's a price ceiling that can't be crossed.
I'm not sure. If I we're to guess, I'd say in Brazil. It's the type of record that seems to appeal to the internal market there far more than outside (except for "international psych" collectors).
b/w
I'm trying to move a Verocai on behalf of a collector, considering it's deemed to be a 4 figure record based on previous sales (both public & private), it's surprisingly difficult to do!
When is there going to be an "American Pickers" type show for Diggers?