If I had it to do all over again I have no doubt I'd do it the same way....I put out records so people could hear them, not as some speculative long term investment....If I had, they'd probably be worthless and I'd have a closet full of shit.
And at least in the beginning they were "limited" because we weren't sure we could sell 300 copies!
ha ha, i am definitely wary of the "closet of shit" outcome, good call.
A great number of the 60's and 70's private press LP's never sold out.
I could write a book about the various ways that folks disposed of their "closet of shit"......only to have them be worth $$$ years down the road.
My favorite was the guy who used 100's of his 70's blues/rock LP as a "slip 'n slide" for his kids across the front lawn!
Yeah, I was talking to James Goode of the Excels and he told me they frisbee'd a couple hundred copies of their 45 "Let's Dance" in a lake...but I suppose its things like that create it's super scarcity...
Yeah, I was talking to James Goode of the Excels and he told me they frisbee'd a couple hundred copies of their 45 "Let's Dance" in a lake...but I suppose its things like that create it's super scarcity...
I like the infamous (in hardcore collecting circles) story of both colors (blue & red vinyl) of the Youth Of Today "Break Down The Walls" 12" on Wishing Well where they were nailed to a deck & then watched curl up in the california sun...... It is thought than at least 66% (200 copies) of the 300 pressed were destroyed.
Does that kind of manufactured rarity--the "Limited Edition!" shit--ever result in any real, deep grails, though?
Often the rares from 90s rock bands are the major label ones - which I usually didn't buy at the time because they WEREN'T trumpted as some colored-vinyl-ltd-to-whatever-type-shit but which actually got smallish pressings one time and that was that.
Of course, at least some of these have been repressed now because of the soaring interest...
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Traveling carnival used them for a baseball/record breaking game./quote]
Unless this was/is a tradition in the south, I came across those guys
at a flea market about 6 years ago in Shreveport, La. Had tons of empty
lp covers, and quite a few rare titles.
Heartbreaking.
I'll only buy reissues if they're brown cardboard with the pasted-on back like the new Fania ones. Anything less is doing it wrong.
OG African records were virtually never manufactured this way.
Weren't most African LP's just the paper thin covers?? All the ones I have or have had were that. I've never seen a cardboard, pasted back African LP cover.
I'll only buy reissues if they're brown cardboard with the pasted-on back like the new Fania ones. Anything less is doing it wrong.
OG African records were virtually never manufactured this way.
That's one of the reasons why they've held up so poorly in general over time (not that there aren't NMs around), just as modern records with inferior construction will.
When was this ever a grail? Even at its high point, if you could get over $50 for it, that was remarkable. We're not talking about his "Better Days' LP after all.
I'll only buy reissues if they're brown cardboard with the pasted-on back like the new Fania ones. Anything less is doing it wrong.
OG African records were virtually never manufactured this way.
That's one of the reasons why they've held up so poorly in general over time (not that there aren't NMs around), just as modern records with inferior construction will.
I can't agree with this. They were basically made the exact same way U.K. record sleeves were made and you don't see those falling apart. As much as dealers like to tell you otherwise, a mid 70's record on Nigeria EMI, for
example, was a well made object, easily the equal of your average U.S. major label press from the same time.
Columbia always used the paste on method you described, and their covers are absolute shit. Go ahead, try to find an actual NM cover for Kind Of Blue.
The reason African covers don't hold up is because of the climate, insects and poor treatment.
I've literally trolled through hundreds of copies of KOB looking for a NM cover to pair with some NM copies of the record I have and have never found one without ringwear or other defects - including dozens still in the shrink. I'm sure they're out there, but they are damn scarce.
My point is that I have always been a little mystified by the hard-on some people have for paste-on covers. Sure, some of them are beautiful. especially if they are laminated, but this method was used because it was cheap, not because it was the best quality.
I can't agree with this. They were basically made the exact same way U.K. record sleeves were made and you don't see those falling apart.
I would say a good 1/3 if not more of the old-style UK sleeves I find are split open. They can be repaired easily, but still - those fold-over flap seams do not hold up over the years.
I can't agree with this. They were basically made the exact same way U.K. record sleeves were made and you don't see those falling apart.
I would say a good 1/3 if not more of the old-style UK sleeves I find are split open. They can be repaired easily, but still - those fold-over flap seams do not hold up over the years.
Sure, but what percentage of old U.S. paste-ons do you find without splits?
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A great number of the 60's and 70's private press LP's never sold out.
I could write a book about the various ways that folks disposed of their "closet of shit"......only to have them be worth $$$ years down the road.
My favorite was the guy who used 100's of his 70's blues/rock LP as a "slip 'n slide" for his kids across the front lawn!
Yeah, I was talking to James Goode of the Excels and he told me they frisbee'd a couple hundred copies of their 45 "Let's Dance" in a lake...but I suppose its things like that create it's super scarcity...
Used to measure the space between beams and then encased inside a wall.
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Traveling carnival used them for a baseball/record breaking game.
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thinking outside the square......
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Often the rares from 90s rock bands are the major label ones - which I usually didn't buy at the time because they WEREN'T trumpted as some colored-vinyl-ltd-to-whatever-type-shit but which actually got smallish pressings one time and that was that.
Of course, at least some of these have been repressed now because of the soaring interest...
Guess you'll have to start buying reissues then! LOL
I haven't seen them, can you easily tell a reissue from the OG?
OG African records were virtually never manufactured this way.
Weren't most African LP's just the paper thin covers?? All the ones I have or have had were that. I've never seen a cardboard, pasted back African LP cover.
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When was this ever a grail? Even at its high point, if you could get over $50 for it, that was remarkable. We're not talking about his "Better Days' LP after all.
I can't agree with this. They were basically made the exact same way U.K. record sleeves were made and you don't see those falling apart. As much as dealers like to tell you otherwise, a mid 70's record on Nigeria EMI, for
example, was a well made object, easily the equal of your average U.S. major label press from the same time.
Columbia always used the paste on method you described, and their covers are absolute shit. Go ahead, try to find an actual NM cover for Kind Of Blue.
The reason African covers don't hold up is because of the climate, insects and poor treatment.
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I've literally trolled through hundreds of copies of KOB looking for a NM cover to pair with some NM copies of the record I have and have never found one without ringwear or other defects - including dozens still in the shrink. I'm sure they're out there, but they are damn scarce.
My point is that I have always been a little mystified by the hard-on some people have for paste-on covers. Sure, some of them are beautiful. especially if they are laminated, but this method was used because it was cheap, not because it was the best quality.
I would say a good 1/3 if not more of the old-style UK sleeves I find are split open. They can be repaired easily, but still - those fold-over flap seams do not hold up over the years.
Sure, but what percentage of old U.S. paste-ons do you find without splits?