A public apology for himself, his brother and Bob Marley???s family.

bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
edited August 2010 in Strut Central
The Canadian Press
MONTREAL???A man told to cover up his Bob Marley T-shirt at an amusement park plans to file a human-rights complaint against the facility.

Brunaud Moise alleges that security guards at La Ronde theme park in Montreal ordered him to turn the shirt inside out or leave the premises.

Moise, who is black, alleges staff singled him out because they associate a black man wearing a Marley shirt with something deviant or criminal.

The 32-year-old says the guards told him the shirt was inappropriate for the family-oriented park.

His grey T-shirt features a design that includes a black-and-white image of the late reggae legend and a cluster of green, marijuana-shaped leaves.

La Ronde says on its website it strictly enforces a dress code that states clothing with rude, vulgar or offensive language and graphics are not permitted.

Moise, a medical technology specialist from Montreal, says he lodged a verbal complaint with a supervisor before leaving the park with his teenage brother.

He alleges the guards??? actions violate his freedom of expression.

Moise is seeking damages, reimbursement for two entry tickets and a public apology for himself, his brother and Marley???s family.

La Ronde, owned by U.S.-based amusement park company Six Flags, did not immediately return a request for an interview.
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  • dukeofdelridgedukeofdelridge urgent.monkey.mice 2,453 Posts
    you're supposed to do acid at amusement parks.

  • AlmondAlmond 1,427 Posts
    Bizarre. The weed leaves are probably the reason. But seeking damages on behalf of the Marleys is pushing it. My brother went through a Marley phase. No Woman No Cry all day.

  • AlmondAlmond 1,427 Posts
    Once I designed a poster for a zero-waste festival. I only had red, green, yellow and black acrylic paint. There was a rastafarian DJ on the planning committee who was prob the reason mine was chosen (other than the fact that the other ones sucked). I got paid $100.

    /random thoughts

  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Always remember my dad having to point out the marijuana leaves in the background of a giant Bob Marley poster I had up in my room during high school. Somehow, I didn't notice them at all.

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    bassie said:
    The Canadian Press
    MONTREAL???A man told to cover up his Bob Marley T-shirt at an amusement park plans to file a human-rights complaint against the facility.

    His human rights were violated?

    bassie said:
    Brunaud Moise alleges that security guards at La Ronde theme park in Montreal ordered him to turn the shirt inside out or leave the premises.

    He was offered the opportunity to stay by having been givin the option to turn his shirt inside out. Case closed.

    bassie said:
    Moise, who is black, alleges staff singled him out because they associate a black man wearing a Marley shirt with something deviant or criminal.

    They singled him out because he was wearing a shirt with marijuana leaves depicted on it.

    bassie said:
    The 32-year-old says the guards told him the shirt was inappropriate for the family-oriented park.

    The guard was correct in that the private facility has the right to set its own dress code and rules as to what constitutes inappropriate imagery.

    bassie said:
    His grey T-shirt features a design that includes a black-and-white image of the late reggae legend and a cluster of green, marijuana-shaped leaves.

    Tacky.

    bassie said:
    La Ronde says on its website it strictly enforces a dress code that states clothing with rude, vulgar or offensive language and graphics are not permitted.


    What part of this stated dress code does Brunaud Moise not understand?

    bassie said:
    Moise, a medical technology specialist from Montreal, says he lodged a verbal complaint with a supervisor before leaving the park with his teenage brother.

    Fair enough.

    bassie said:
    He alleges the guards??? actions violate his freedom of expression.

    False. He was at a private facility where he has no such "freedom of expression." If he was a public facility he would have a case but, in this instance, he does not.

    bassie said:
    Moise is seeking damages, reimbursement for two entry tickets and a public apology for himself, his brother and Marley???s family.

    It is reasonable for him to receive a refund for his tickets (a fair compromise) but he should receive nothing else (though it being Montreal, Canada where he is filing his complaint, he'll probably receive the key to the city.)

    bassie said:
    La Ronde, owned by U.S.-based amusement park company Six Flags, did not immediately return a request for an interview.

    Good for La Ronde. I'm sure that they have more important business to attend to.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    lamprey eel said:


    bassie said:
    His grey T-shirt features a design that includes a black-and-white image of the late reggae legend and a cluster of green, marijuana-shaped leaves.

    Tacky.

    I agree, but you're still a twerp.

  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    lamprey eel said:
    bassie said:
    The Canadian Press
    MONTREAL???A man told to cover up his Bob Marley T-shirt at an amusement park plans to file a human-rights complaint against the facility.

    His human rights were violated?

    bassie said:
    Brunaud Moise alleges that security guards at La Ronde theme park in Montreal ordered him to turn the shirt inside out or leave the premises.

    He was offered the opportunity to stay by having been givin the option to turn his shirt inside out. Case closed.

    bassie said:
    Moise, who is black, alleges staff singled him out because they associate a black man wearing a Marley shirt with something deviant or criminal.

    They singled him out because he was wearing a shirt with marijuana leaves depicted on it.

    bassie said:
    The 32-year-old says the guards told him the shirt was inappropriate for the family-oriented park.

    The guard was correct in that the private facility has the right to set its own dress code and rules as to what constitutes inappropriate imagery.

    bassie said:
    His grey T-shirt features a design that includes a black-and-white image of the late reggae legend and a cluster of green, marijuana-shaped leaves.

    Tacky.

    bassie said:
    La Ronde says on its website it strictly enforces a dress code that states clothing with rude, vulgar or offensive language and graphics are not permitted.


    What part of this stated dress code does Brunaud Moise not understand?

    bassie said:
    Moise, a medical technology specialist from Montreal, says he lodged a verbal complaint with a supervisor before leaving the park with his teenage brother.

    Fair enough.

    bassie said:
    He alleges the guards??? actions violate his freedom of expression.

    False. He was at a private facility where he has no such "freedom of expression." If he was a public facility he would have a case but, in this instance, he does not.

    bassie said:
    Moise is seeking damages, reimbursement for two entry tickets and a public apology for himself, his brother and Marley???s family.

    It is reasonable for him to receive a refund for his tickets (a fair compromise) but he should receive nothing else (though it being Montreal, Canada where he is filing his complaint, he'll probably receive the key to the city.)

    bassie said:
    La Ronde, owned by U.S.-based amusement park company Six Flags, did not immediately return a request for an interview.

    Good for La Ronde. I'm sure that they have more important business to attend to.

    U.G.H.

  • Dudes, DFT.

    Lamprey goes by GiantLeech on Waxidermy, and until the site banned political threads altogether, he was a serious turd in the punchbowl.

    His musical knowledge is valuable, there - I think, here, he will just annoy the lot of you.

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    bassie said:
    lamprey eel said:


    bassie said:
    His grey T-shirt features a design that includes a black-and-white image of the late reggae legend and a cluster of green, marijuana-shaped leaves.

    Tacky.

    I agree, but you're still a twerp.

    I could claim that you are as well, but I would not be likely to do such a thing, as I don't consider someone who has a possible social/political opinion that is different from mine to be intrinsically a twerp.

  • sabadabadasabadabada 5,966 Posts
    He made me roll around on the floor like a dog Mr. Walley. He took away my human dignity.


  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    lamprey eel said:
    bassie said:
    lamprey eel said:


    bassie said:
    His grey T-shirt features a design that includes a black-and-white image of the late reggae legend and a cluster of green, marijuana-shaped leaves.

    Tacky.

    I agree, but you're still a twerp.

    I could claim that you are as well, but I would not be likely to do such a thing, as I don't consider someone who has a possible social/political opinion that is different from mine to be intrinsically a twerp.

    haha! It has nothing to do with your opinions!

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    bassie said:
    lamprey eel said:
    bassie said:
    lamprey eel said:


    bassie said:
    His grey T-shirt features a design that includes a black-and-white image of the late reggae legend and a cluster of green, marijuana-shaped leaves.

    Tacky.

    I agree, but you're still a twerp.

    I could claim that you are as well, but I would not be likely to do such a thing, as I don't consider someone who has a possible social/political opinion that is different from mine to be intrinsically a twerp.

    haha! It has nothing to do with your opinions!

    OK, fine (hey, you can't please everybody.) That said, on what points, if any, do you disagree with me on my assessment of the stated facts related to the news article you posted?

  • covecove 1,567 Posts
    bassie said:

    It is reasonable for him to receive a refund for his tickets (a fair compromise) but he should receive nothing else (though it being Montreal, Canada where he is filing his complaint, he'll probably receive the key to the city.)
    .

    go on...

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    e-Acquaintance, I posted the story in fun. The incident is silly to me on a lot of levels.
    We agree on at least point; let us emphasize the positive and leave the disagreements for more important issues, yea?

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    I count the days minutes until Leech catches the BAN.

    Reynaldo is redirecting funds from a number of his bank accounts into Raj's Paypal as I type.

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    Is there anyone here who will disagree with this statement -

    Fucking with this guy over his shirt in the first place is a damn ridiculous move by the park and/or its hammerhead employees.

    (I hope the guy gets a good settlement and buys a shitload of weed.)

    Six Flags has an interesting history. http://race.change.org/blog/view/companies_forbid_extreme_blackness

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    We had a somewhat similar incident down here recently at the Six Flags Amusement Park where they asked a couple to cover up their tattoos which admittedly were pretty raunchy. The couple threatened to sue the park but from what I understand a privately owned business who wants to create a "family" atmosphere can enforce rules like this whether it's alcohol, drugs or obscenity being projected from a shirt or tattoo. They even offered up a Six Flags T-Shirt at no charge to cover up but the couple refused. My take on it was the couple in question were just being assholes about it.

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    To be fair to Six Flags, they have also been targeted by bigots:

    http://www.teapartypatriots.org/BlogPostView.aspx?id=3e3c9354-e295-4195-bb8a-0e50fd522cf9

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    PelvicDust said:
    Is there anyone here who will disagree with this statement -

    Fucking with this guy over his shirt in the first place is a damn ridiculous move by the park and/or its hammerhead employees.

    Yes, I will disagree with that statement.

    That amusement park is a private facility and that park's administration has the legal right to set dress codes that it finds appropriate to allow for and maintain a tone that they consider to be agreeable and pleasant to the majority of their paying customers. If the park employees thought that the image of marijuana leaves depicted on the man's t-shirt was outside the bounds of the park's dress code and would be considered offensive to other park attendees, then their move was reasonable.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    PelvicDust said:
    Is there anyone here who will disagree with this statement -

    Fucking with this guy over his shirt in the first place is a damn ridiculous move by the park and/or its hammerhead employees.

    (I hope the guy gets a good settlement and buys a shitload of weed.)

    Six Flags has an interesting history. http://race.change.org/blog/view/companies_forbid_extreme_blackness

    Do you think they would hire a white dude with dreadlocks???

  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    PelvicDust said:
    Is there anyone here who will disagree with this statement -

    Fucking with this guy over his shirt in the first place is a damn ridiculous move by the park and/or its hammerhead employees.

    (I hope the guy gets a good settlement and buys a shitload of weed.)

    Six Flags has an interesting history. http://race.change.org/blog/view/companies_forbid_extreme_blackness

    Whether they were right or wrong to kick him out, I can't see how he deserves anything beyond a refund for his tickets.

    I'm sick of people thinking they're in for a giant pay day whenever they are slightly inconvenienced. Also, bear in mind these ridiculous settlements just drive up the price of everything - in the long run it's not the companies that pay, they just pass the cost on to the consumer.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    Rockadelic said:
    PelvicDust said:
    Is there anyone here who will disagree with this statement -

    Fucking with this guy over his shirt in the first place is a damn ridiculous move by the park and/or its hammerhead employees.

    (I hope the guy gets a good settlement and buys a shitload of weed.)

    Six Flags has an interesting history. http://race.change.org/blog/view/companies_forbid_extreme_blackness

    Do you think they would hire a white dude with dreadlocks???

    Another amusement park won't hire a brown dudette with them.
    (from 2008)

    CityNews.ca
    Jessica Devnani was excited about the prospect of starting her first summer job at Canada's Wonderland, but in the end, she found no amusement in the park's request that she cut her dreadlocks, or find work elsewhere.

    "I went in for my interview and they hired me on the spot so a week later I went for my first day of training," she explained.

    When she showed up she was given the bad news --- the hair had to go.

    "I was angry they didn't tell me at the interview when they saw my hair," she adds.

    As a private company Canada's Wonderland is entitled to a hiring policy and they have a rule of no extreme hairstyles.

    A spokesperson for the company declined an interview.

    "They got my hopes up with the job and then telling me I had to resign," Devnani complains.

    Canada's Wonderland says it will look into better communicating its hiring policies and Jessica doesn't plan to take any action against them, but she just hopes it doesn't happen to somebody else.

  • bassiebassie 11,710 Posts
    doubles

  • Damn, who knew that roller coasters and bumper boats were teh racist??

    I gotta re-plan my birthday.

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    lamprey eel said:
    PelvicDust said:
    Is there anyone here who will disagree with this statement -

    Fucking with this guy over his shirt in the first place is a damn ridiculous move by the park and/or its hammerhead employees.

    Yes, I will disagree with that statement.

    That amusement park is a private facility and that park's administration has the legal right to set dress codes that it finds appropriate to allow for and maintain a tone that they consider to be agreeable and pleasant to the majority of their paying customers. If the park employees thought that the image of marijuana leaves depicted on the man's t-shirt was outside the bounds of the park's dress code and would be considered offensive to other park attendees, then their move was reasonable.

    The question is meant to elicit an answer about YOUR opinion about the move, not the rights of the company to behave dickishly.

    Let's grant that they have the right to have a dickish policy, though they should enforce it fairly. But they're still dicks for having a dumbass policy against Marley shirts in the first place.

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    Also, roller coasters are a whole lot more fun when you're stoned.

  • HorseleechHorseleech 3,830 Posts
    PelvicDust said:
    But they're still dicks for having a dumbass policy against Marley shirts in the first place.

    Isn't it a policy against weed shirts, not Marley shirts?

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    bassie said:
    Rockadelic said:
    PelvicDust said:
    Is there anyone here who will disagree with this statement -

    Fucking with this guy over his shirt in the first place is a damn ridiculous move by the park and/or its hammerhead employees.

    (I hope the guy gets a good settlement and buys a shitload of weed.)

    Six Flags has an interesting history. http://race.change.org/blog/view/companies_forbid_extreme_blackness

    Do you think they would hire a white dude with dreadlocks???

    Another amusement park won't hire a brown dudette with them.
    (from 2008)

    CityNews.ca
    Jessica Devnani was excited about the prospect of starting her first summer job at Canada's Wonderland, but in the end, she found no amusement in the park's request that she cut her dreadlocks, or find work elsewhere.

    "I went in for my interview and they hired me on the spot so a week later I went for my first day of training," she explained.

    When she showed up she was given the bad news --- the hair had to go.

    "I was angry they didn't tell me at the interview when they saw my hair," she adds.

    As a private company Canada's Wonderland is entitled to a hiring policy and they have a rule of no extreme hairstyles.

    A spokesperson for the company declined an interview.

    "They got my hopes up with the job and then telling me I had to resign," Devnani complains.

    Canada's Wonderland says it will look into better communicating its hiring policies and Jessica doesn't plan to take any action against them, but she just hopes it doesn't happen to somebody else.

    The park has a right to require what is considers to be "appropriate" hairstyles on it's employees.

    If the person doing the hiring didn't tell Ms. Devnani during that first interview that a hair cut would be required (and in fact did know that that was company policy), then the person doing the hiring is a (for lack of a better word) bonehead.

  • PelvicDust said:
    Also, roller coasters are a whole lot more fun when you're stoned.

    We used to pack a cassette case full of joints and every few rides, get up in the skylift that would take you to the other end of the park and blow one. Then we'd ride some more, rinse, repeat.

    Man it'll never be like that again. We'd all get arrested I'm sure if we did that in 2010.

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    Horseleech said:
    PelvicDust said:
    But they're still dicks for having a dumbass policy against Marley shirts in the first place.

    Isn't it a policy against weed shirts, not Marley shirts?

    There's a whole lot of overlap there.
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