skinny white dude who just wants to get high as the beatmaker = genius.
See, the inclusion of token white characters in a movie like this always annoys me. Why are they there? To draw in a white audience that is not otherwise interested in the subject matter? Can anybody imagine a white person seeing a preview and saying "I have no inherent interest in watching a movie about a black pimp with rapper fantasies, but I see this film has two white characters in it--lemme check that out!" Listening to the white producer kid was painful, especially the part where he explained to the audience that the word "bitch" could pertain to both men and women, or proclaimed that "Every MAYAN hahs the raht tuh drahp a verse!"
skinny white dude who just wants to get high as the beatmaker = genius.
See, the inclusion of token white characters in a movie like this always annoys me. Why are they there? To draw in a white audience that is not otherwise interested in the subject matter? Can anybody imagine a white person seeing a preview and saying "I have no inherent interest in watching a movie about a black pimp with rapper fantasies, but I see this film has two white characters in it--lemme check that out!" Listening to the white producer kid was painful, especially the part where he explained to the audience that the word "bitch" could pertain to both men and women, or proclaimed that "Every MAYAN hahs the raht tuh drahp a verse!"
are you kidding? I hear stoned white kids with beats say shit like that all the time. dude was not a token character, he was one of the more realistic things about the movie.
since when do you need white characters to get white people to see a movie filled with black people? especially when it's about a pimp and stars Ludacris?
since when do you need white characters to get white people to see a movie filled with black people? especially when it's about a pimp and stars Ludacris?
That's what I'm asking.
I saw his presence as forced, and if it was intended to help market the film, as unnecessary.
jeez - i was so looking forward to 90min+ of Mr. Howard. i guess i'll skip this one and just wait for Four Brothers...i hope his whole career won't be a case of great actor-terrible movies. his acting was so good in Crash, but that movie stank.
since when do you need white characters to get white people to see a movie filled with black people? especially when it's about a pimp and stars Ludacris?
That's what I'm asking.
I saw his presence as forced, and if it was intended to help market the film, as unnecessary.
You're right about white kids acting like DJ Qualls; you're wrong about him being necessary to the film.
nah I agree...he wasn't necessary at all. but he was accurate.
i feel like everyone's taking this movie too seriously. i enjoyed the flick a lot, because i could laugh at the absurd wannabe emotional scenes and didn't get too caught up in, "is that skinny dorky white kid believable? should i be offended? is the whole pimp-with-a-heart character corny as fuck?"
by the way, i saw that white ho last night in a club looking foine
I feel that Faux_Rills, speaking as a black man, is offended at how they painted the white guy as neccasary to help his career. Yet another white man trying to hold proud black pimps down.
I wish I could say I relate but I have never been a black man. Faux is actually the closest I've gotten to hearing what the true black perspective on cinema is.
I feel that Faux_Rills, speaking as a black man, is offended at how they painted the white guy as neccasary to help his career. Yet another white man trying to hold proud black pimps down.
I wish I could say I relate but I have never been a black man. Faux is actually the closest I've gotten to hearing what the true black perspective on cinema is.
great observation...so Adam when do you start partying at work today?
skinny white dude who just wants to get high as the beatmaker = genius.
See, the inclusion of token white characters in a movie like this always annoys me.
Well Hustle and Flow was WRITTEN AND DIRECTED by a white guy named Craig Brewer. LOL. I'm not sure how many are aware of that. I know a few black critics are basically shitting on Singleton for that fact. They're saying how can it be a "black movie" if the director and writter are "white"
Singleton's response/defense was;
"That guy's got so much soul. More soul than a lot of brothers out here. What is a black film? Is an Eddie Murphy film a black film. People all over the planet are fascinated with black culture. Black culture is pop culture."
I can't call it. I just thought Hustle and Flow was GARBAGE.
I feel that Faux_Rills, speaking as a black man, is offended at how they painted the white guy as neccasary to help his career. Yet another white man trying to hold proud black pimps down.
I wish I could say I relate but I have never been a black man. Faux is actually the closest I've gotten to hearing what the true black perspective on cinema is.
great observation...so Adam when do you start partying at work today?
Drove in late today, fuck it its party day like they are going to care), haven't foud the open bar, but I am betting its either in the lobby or outside. I see the breakfast tables set up and the stage with fake palm trees out in the courtyard was getting me giddy. I got a bowl of weed in my pocket and timing is everything.
"That guy's got so much soul. More soul than a lot of brothers out here. What is a black film? Is an Eddie Murphy film a black film. People all over the planet are fascinated with black culture. "
jeez - i was so looking forward to 90min+ of Mr. Howard. i guess i'll skip this one and just wait for Four Brothers...i hope his whole career won't be a case of great actor-terrible movies. his acting was so good in Crash, but that movie stank.
I was just watching 'the Best Man' on cable the other day(first time I had re-watched since I saw it in the theatre), and he made a real impression in that flick. I remember at the time thinking that his role in the Best Man was gonna blow him up, but nothing really happened, Morris Chestnut and Taye Diggs seemed to get all the press and roles. So go figure.
jeez - i was so looking forward to 90min+ of Mr. Howard. i guess i'll skip this one and just wait for Four Brothers...i hope his whole career won't be a case of great actor-terrible movies. his acting was so good in Crash, but that movie stank.
I was just watching 'the Best Man' on cable the other day(first time I had re-watched since I saw it in the theatre), and he made a real impression in that flick. I remember at the time thinking that his role in the Best Man was gonna blow him up, but nothing really happened, Morris Chestnut and Taye Diggs seemed to get all the press and roles. So go figure.
Oh, and NO white people in 'the Best Man'.
well I can axe that from my netflix queue and put "you've got mail" back on.
ok - so if i hated crash, never saw best man, thought batman was amazing, think fame is actually a very good movie, loved sid and nancy and think flashdance is only OK - will i like hustle and flow?
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yeah the token geeky white producer and slutty white trash whore had me a bit defensive.
dj qualls is a dog
one you do not trust
you leave yo green around him, ninja, yo green gon get lit up
See, the inclusion of token white characters in a movie like this always annoys me. Why are they there? To draw in a white audience that is not otherwise interested in the subject matter? Can anybody imagine a white person seeing a preview and saying "I have no inherent interest in watching a movie about a black pimp with rapper fantasies, but I see this film has two white characters in it--lemme check that out!" Listening to the white producer kid was painful, especially the part where he explained to the audience that the word "bitch" could pertain to both men and women, or proclaimed that "Every MAYAN hahs the raht tuh drahp a verse!"
This movie is important because it brings awareness to this long-forgotten right.
I salute DJ Qualls for his courage (and his mastery of BEV).
there is no graemlin to express my feelings towards this movie. only thing worse so far this year was 'last days."
are you kidding? I hear stoned white kids with beats say shit like that all the time. dude was not a token character, he was one of the more realistic things about the movie.
since when do you need white characters to get white people to see a movie filled with black people? especially when it's about a pimp and stars Ludacris?
That's what I'm asking.
I saw his presence as forced, and if it was intended to help market the film, as unnecessary.
nah I agree...he wasn't necessary at all. but he was accurate.
i wish they woulda kept "Beat that Bitch!"
by the way, i saw that white ho last night in a club looking foine
I wish I could say I relate but I have never been a black man. Faux is actually the closest I've gotten to hearing what the true black perspective on cinema is.
great observation...so Adam when do you start partying at work today?
Well Hustle and Flow was WRITTEN AND DIRECTED by a white guy named Craig Brewer. LOL. I'm not sure how many are aware of that. I know a few black critics are basically shitting on Singleton for that fact. They're saying how can it be a "black movie" if the director and writter are "white"
Singleton's response/defense was;
"That guy's got so much soul. More soul than a lot of brothers out here. What is a black film? Is an Eddie Murphy film a black film. People all over the planet are fascinated with black culture. Black culture is pop culture."
I can't call it. I just thought Hustle and Flow was GARBAGE.
knowledge DROPPED. OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!
Drove in late today, fuck it its party day like they are going to care), haven't foud the open bar, but I am betting its either in the lobby or outside. I see the breakfast tables set up and the stage with fake palm trees out in the courtyard was getting me giddy. I got a bowl of weed in my pocket and timing is everything.
great...another idoit
I was just watching 'the Best Man' on cable the other day(first time I had re-watched since I saw it in the theatre), and he made a real impression in that flick. I remember at the time thinking that his role in the Best Man was gonna blow him up, but nothing really happened, Morris Chestnut and Taye Diggs seemed to get all the press and roles. So go figure.
Oh, and NO white people in 'the Best Man'.
well I can axe that from my netflix queue and put "you've got mail" back on.
Not a secret--it's been mentioned in pretty much every review that I've read.