F**k Arizona!
4YearGraduate
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Once again.May you be cursed with Mexican haircuts and salty pizza.Kick your state in with my big brown foot.Fusk you.
4YearGraduate
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....here it comes.....
Can this law possibly hold up in the USSC?
Herm, Pacman, how do you guys feel about this?
See: Born In East LA for close to actual account of his current ordeal.
As someone who has lived/worked and gone to school there. I really really love the place.
But these type of policies and a certain sheriff makes me never want to come back again.
it's like arizona is one of those b-list celebrities that figures any publicity is good publicity.
fusk that state. i think mexico should kick all the zonies out. economic sanctions. protectionist tariffs. all of it.
music like "pull me over, b*tch!"
Anyone see that Colbert clip? Dude was hilarious. ICE MEXICANS! I can post it later tonight.
and i guess this makes it illegal to stand outside of Home Depot while Mexican, too?
also, don't forget the law that was passed last week that makes it legal to carry a concealed weapon w/out a permit...
I knew you would chime in.
I don't believe any american, legal or otherwise, should have to carry around thier birth certificate let alone be asked to present it based on thier skin color, what they are wearing or how they talk.
This country was founded on an idea, not a race.
I hope that truck driver and his wife sue the living shit out of that state.
You wanted all of us migrants here so you coul break your unions, build your railoads and provide you with cheap vegetables.
Deal with it.
But, you know, white power!!!
I knew you wouldn't answer a very simple question.
Should the U.S. have immigration laws??
Yes or No
And if yes, how should they properly enforce them?
And fusk you and your white power comment.
This country runs on a huge amount of underpaid labor that US citizens won't do or at least won't do well. That's always been the case and it's not going to change. It seems like there's this idea that if only we kick the Maxicans out, Good Ol' White Folks will be able to do their jobs, but for better wages. That's fantasy.
I wasn't aiming the white power commen at you specifically roc, but if you want to defend this law, that shoe fits.
I haven't been paying super-close attention to this race, what with me not being an AZ resident and all, but what I've heard is pretty wacky. I guess the other dude is teabagging McCain, and in response, ol' Johnny Mac had to get the Teabagger Queen herself, Sarah Palin, to come speak on his behalf. Strange things are afoot at the Circle K.
I am reposting it because the sections I put in bold really resonated with me.
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Jim Wallis
Founder of Sojourners; speaker, author, activist
Arizona's Immigration Bill Is a Social and Racial Sin
I got up at 4:30 a.m. on Tuesday morning to fly to Phoenix, Arizona, to speak at a press conference and rally at the State Capitol at the invitation of the state's clergy and other leaders in the immigration reform movement. The harshest enforcement bill in the country against undocumented immigrants just passed the Arizona state House and Senate, and is only awaiting the signature of Governor Janet Brewer to become law.
Senate Bill 1070 would require law enforcement officials in the state of Arizona to investigate someone's immigration status if there is "reasonable suspicion" that the person might be undocumented. I wonder who that would be, and if anybody who doesn't have brown skin will be investigated. Those without identification papers, even if they are legal, are subject to arrest; so don't forget your wallet on your way to work if you are Hispanic in Arizona. You can also be arrested if you are stopped and are simply with people who are undocumented -- even if they are your family. Parents or children of "mixed-status families" (made up of legal and undocumented, as many immigrant families are out here) could be arrested if they are found together. You can be arrested if you are "transporting or harboring" undocumented people. Some might consider driving immigrant families to and from church to be Christian ministry -- but it will now be illegal in Arizona.
For the first time, all law enforcement officers in the state will be enlisted to hunt down undocumented people, which will clearly distract them from going after truly violent criminals, and will focus them on mostly harmless families whose work supports the economy and who contribute to their communities. And do you think undocumented parents will now go to the police if their daughter is raped or their family becomes a victim of violent crime? [/b] Maybe that's why the state association of police chiefs is against SB 1070.
This proposed law is not only mean-spirited -- it will be ineffective and will only serve to further divide communities in Arizona, making everyone more fearful and less safe. This radical new measure, which crosses many moral and legal lines, is a clear demonstration of the fundamental mistake of separating enforcement from comprehensive immigration reform. We all want to live in a nation of laws, and the immigration system in the U.S. is so broken that is serving no one well. But enforcement without reform of the system is merely cruel. Enforcement without compassion is immoral. [/b]Enforcement that breaks up families is unacceptable. And enforcement of this law would force us to violate our Christian conscience, which we simply will not do. It makes it illegal to love your neighbor in Arizona.
Before the rally and press event, I visited some immigrant families who work at Neighborhood Ministries, an impressive community organization affiliated with Sojourners' friends at the Christian Community Development Association. I met a group of women who were frightened by the raids that have been occurring, in which armed men invade their homes and neighborhoods with guns and helicopters. When the rumors of massive raids spread, many of these people flee both their homes and their workplaces, and head for The Church at The Neighborhood Center as the only place they feel safe and secure. But will police invade the churches if they are suspected of "harboring" undocumented people, because it is the law? Will the nurse practitioner I met at their medical clinic serving only uninsured people be arrested for being "with" the children of families who are here illegally as she treats them?
At the rally, I started with the words of Jesus (which drew cheers from the crowd gathered at the State Capitol), who instructed his disciples to "welcome the stranger," and said that whatever we do to "the least of these, who are members of my family" we do to him. I think that means that to obey Jesus and his gospel will mean to disobey SB 1070 in Arizona. I looked at the governor's Executive Tower and promised that many Christians in Arizona won't comply with this law because the people they will target will be members of our "family" in the body of Christ. And any attack against them is an attack against us, and the One we follow.
Catholic Cardinal Roger Mahony of Los Angeles just called this Arizona measure "the country's most retrogressive, mean-spirited, and useless immigration law" in the land. On CNN, I defended the Cardinal's comments, which likened the requirement of people always carrying their "papers" to the most oppressive regimes of Nazism and Communism. I wonder whether the tea party movement that rails against government intrusion will rail against this law, or whether those who resist the forced government registration of their guns will resist the forced government requirement that immigrants must always carry their documentation. Will the true conservatives please stand up here? We are all waiting.
Arizona's SB 1070 must be named as a social and racial sin, and should be denounced as such by people of faith and conscience across the nation. This is not just about Arizona, but about all of us, and about what kind of country we want to be. It's time to stand up to this new strategy of "deportation by attrition," which I heard for the first time today in Arizona. It is a policy of deliberate political cruelty, and it should be remembered that "attrition" is a term of war. Arizona is deciding whether to wage war on the body of Christ. We should say that if you come after one part of the body, you come after all of us.
Tell you what, show me where I defended anydamnthing and I'll take back my fusk you too.
Cecil Ash is fucked
Or McCain
http://gawker.com/5520748/john-mccain-immigrants-are-crashing-cars-on-purpose
"It's the drive-by that ? the drivers of cars with illegals in it that are intentionally causing accidents on the freeway. Look, our border is not secured. Our citizens are not safe."
Lawd have mercy...
Even if it passes, the odds of it holding up in the Supreme Court are tough; most of the similar provisions in 187 in CA got struck down.
The US does have immigration laws but the government has been either unwilling or incapable of enforcing them, not the least of which is because there's a lot more political influence spent by employers to keep away than there is citizen mobilization to enforce them or make them more punitive. Keep in mind, every state in the union has a higher # of immigrants, AZ just happens to be one of the few states that's pushing mega-hard on the issue.
The issue of enforcement isn't just academic, so it's hard to ask what would be considered "proper" enforcement. For some, it means mass deportation; which is neither realistic (logistically or cost-wise) nor ethical (given that Americans benefit from that illegal labor). For others, it means amnesty but that creates long-term concerns about having any kind of enforceable policy in the future.
BOTTOMLINE: The police should are not be responsible to act like the INS/ICE/whatever. We have an entire wing of the federal bureaucracy tasked with that; make THEM do it.
Not like it could happen magically, but imagine if every Latino, legal, illegal or whatever, left AZ tomorrow. Can you imagine how fast that state would collapse?
Yep.
A suburb of Dallas recently made national news by passing an ordinance that made it illegal to rent an apartment or home to an illegal immigrant. The Federal courts overturned the ordinance saying it was not up to local authorities to enforce what is ultimately a Federal law. The local authorities then complained that they would not have to do this if the Feds did their job and enforced the law.