The Dream - Love Vs. Money

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  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    those two guest appearances aren't bad but yeah they just seem kinda weird on the album. rhianna track on the first fit much better

  • el_sparkoel_sparko 884 Posts
    The first album is classique, but does no one else find the constant "ay ay ay" and "ella ella ella"'s a bit irritating? It's like, ok, we get that you produced Umbrella...

  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    yeah i dont know if i can take another album of his adlibs.

  • phongonephongone 1,652 Posts
    So this takes us to the next point - Who is the better songwriter/artiste - the Dream or Ne-Yo?

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    all the collabs on the 1st one were good -- but id rather hear a fab guest verse than a kanye one. i like the mariah song

    & his adlibs are classique also

  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    dream is a better rapper

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    So this takes us to the next point - Who is the better songwriter/artiste - the Dream or Ne-Yo?

    Ne-Yo channeling MJ
    Dream channeling Prince

    two diff styles of R&B IMO.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    ne yo is prolly more underrated around here but i def listen to the-dream more

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    all the collabs on the 1st one were good -- but id rather hear a fab guest verse than a kanye one. i like the mariah song

    & his adlibs are classique also

    Yes, the Mariah song is hoTT and so are the ad-libs.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    ne yo is prolly more underrated around here but i def listen to the-dream more

    Ne-Yo is more popular.

  • Lucious_FoxLucious_Fox 2,479 Posts
    ....meanwhile the latest Keyshia Cole is mediocre.

  • I'm surprised so many people are diggin' this record. It pretty much sucks.

  • phongonephongone 1,652 Posts
    So this takes us to the next point - Who is the better songwriter/artiste - the Dream or Ne-Yo?

    Ne-Yo channeling MJ
    Dream channeling Prince

    two diff styles of R&B IMO.

    This is an appropriate analogy. Dream must be better then because we all know that Prince is the better artiste (pre-New Power Generation stuff of course) than MJ. *ducks*

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    I'm surprised so many people are diggin' this record. It pretty much sucks.

    Did you like the first one?

  • BurnsBurns 2,227 Posts
    I'm surprised so many people are diggin' this record. It pretty much sucks.

    I'm have tempted to buy it, but not on SS's behalf. They like to make false accusations.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    ....meanwhile the latest Keyshia Cole is mediocre.
    i disagree. the keri hilson was extremely disappointing though

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Yall like that Jazmin Sullivan? I have dug everything I've heard so far.

  • BrianBrian 7,618 Posts
    how much better would this album be if "my love" was after "sweat it out"

  • I'm surprised so many people are diggin' this record. It pretty much sucks.

    Did you like the first one?
    It had its moments...

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts

    How anyone can think an album with 'Kelly's 12play' on it sucks is beyond me

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    I'm surprised so many people are diggin' this record. It pretty much sucks.

    Did you like the first one?
    It had its moments...


    I think this kind of music might not be for you...

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts

    Clean the cd, check for scratches
    Get up on my mattress

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts

    His singsong rap on fancy w the swooping strings just before the drums come in is serious d-_-b


  • I think this kind of music might not be for you...
    I can only thank God for that.

    I'm kidding. His first record was pretty good, but I wasn't in love with it like most people in this thread seem to be.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    The first album is hot but Im not about to place it next to 12Play,Guy's debut,or Mary's first two.

    Its not Paradigm-Shift shit.

  • Sayin'.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    The first album is hot but Im not about to place it next to 12Play,Guy's debut,or Mary's first two.

    Its not Paradigm-Shift shit.

    I actually kind of disagree w/ u.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    The first album is hot but Im not about to place it next to 12Play,Guy's debut,or Mary's first two.

    Its not Paradigm-Shift shit.

    I actually kind of disagree w/ u.

    Placing it next to other classics is cool in terms of Private Mind Garden, but to say its game-changin like those classics, we'll have to agree to disagree.

  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    Yeah I think time will reveal that dudes start looking to their production and writing as perfected on that record as "the sound". We'll see.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Yeah I think time will reveal that dudes start looking to their production and writing as perfected on that record as "the sound". We'll see.

    U think it will change the production game the way D'Angelo's/Erykah's/Maxwell's debuts, where there's a gang of artists taking cues from the production?

    I think the one flaw is the fact that's the first part of the album takes Prince's drum machine steez and builds on that. Nikki/Purple Kisses? Very derivative and not that "original" IMO.

    For me it was a good re-interpretation w/out the wanna be eclectic Blackman/scarf-wearin/guitar-rockin'/lace underwears steez that dudes bring along when channeling Prince.

    I just cant put dude w/ R.Kelly.........yet.
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