Crazy Neighbor Strut

mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
edited March 2009 in Strut Central
So...My wife and I have been thinking of finally taking the plunge on a house and there's been one property in particular that we've focused on - good neighborhood, good schools, and the property itself is in solid condition. Best of all, we can get it somewhere around 30% below market. The problem is...the next door neighbor is apparently bat shit crazy. We got the skinny from the folks who live around there. How crazy?He poisons neighborhood dogs. (Though no one's been able to definitively prove this). He calls cops on his neighbors 1-2/week, for things like...playing basketball in the day time in your backyard. If you're having a party, he'll come out and start photographing and videotaping people. He'll videotape your children if they're out playing by themselves. Two questions:1) This screams "deal breaker," right? 2) If it doesn't, how the fusk would you deal with someone like this? Live and let live? Mask and gloves?I've been very lucky - I've never had problems with a neighbor anywhere I've lived so a potentially confrontational situation is new to me.
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  • That's pretty crazy, and creepy about the kid thing. Roughly how old is this crazy neighbour, single or married? at least you can judge how to deal with this person.

    T

  • willie_fugalwillie_fugal 1,862 Posts

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    That's pretty crazy, and creepy about the kid thing. Roughly how old is this crazy neighbour, single or married? at least you can judge how to deal with this person.

    T

    Middle-aged. Has a live-in girlfriend. No kids. He's some white collar worker.

  • el_sparkoel_sparko 884 Posts
    Don't do it.
    You want to feel relaxed in your home, not have that feeling of minor irritation or paranoia (but justified) that some creep is keeping check on what you're doing.

  • discos_almadiscos_alma discos_alma 2,164 Posts


    There's plenty of deals elsewhere w/ less drama.

  • Don't do it.
    You want to feel relaxed in your home, not have that feeling of minor irritation or paranoia (but justified) that some creep is keeping check on what you're doing.



    Also can you imagine the point where you might need to sell your home if things get rough, it might be difficult to shift. Also let's not forget it 30% less for a reason, that's a pretty big knock off the price.

  • Offer 50% below, cite neighbour as a reason...

    There's no point buying into something which could lead you to a loss in the future. It's best to move on to somewhere else, god know what you could do to piss the person off, playing music too loud??

  • LoopDreamsLoopDreams 1,195 Posts
    O, there's gonna be lot's of deals in the next little while, take your time.
    You don't want to be saying ' hindsites 20/20 ' down the rode.

  • CousinLarryCousinLarry 4,618 Posts
    DON'T DO IT

  • NateBizzoNateBizzo 2,328 Posts
    DO NOT DO IT.

    I've seen the crazy neighbor thing go down many different ways with many different friends and it ends up being a huge regret.

    Oliver, we're starting to look too, but there is a huge lack of inventory right now. Our agent has told us that in the next month you will see a huge influx of homes hitting the market. Shit just keeps dropping like crazy. Every home we've looked at has been going down in price week by week. We looked at this house in Rockridge that has dropped 30K in the last week with no offers.

    It's a buyers market for sure right now, no need to rush into something, especially if you've got an issue like this. You may say to yourself you'll ignore him, but in the end it will end up being more than you want to deal with.

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Not worth it.

    You don't want your child anywhere near this creep.

  • A good house at a good price is tough to pass up. It's a good investment and there are a s**tload of other benefits.

    You never know what your neighbor situation will be like a week, month, year, 5 years down the road. You can find a decent place with great neighbors and they all move out within a year and a bunch of jackasses worse than this guy take their place.

    b/w
    Nice set on Wednesday.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Appreciate everyone confirming what seemed to me to be the right decision: step the F*ck away!

    I also hear what Rick is saying too (and thanks for the props on the set). I might do a little more footwork just to confirm the stories (this reflects how badly we'd like to get this post; it's literally about 100 yards from a very good elementary school plus a quarter mile from one of the best Chinese restaurants in San Gabriel.

    But yeah, we're not desperate to move either (much as I find parts of the Westside oppressively homogenous).

  • rootlesscosmorootlesscosmo 12,848 Posts

    He'll videotape your children if they're out playing by themselves.


    This screams "deal breaker,"

  • GrafwritahGrafwritah 4,184 Posts
    Oliver, we're starting to look too, but there is a huge lack of inventory right now. Our agent has told us that in the next month you will see a huge influx of homes hitting the market. Shit just keeps dropping like crazy.

    (?) Overall housing inventory is still extremely high. I think nationally its still running at a 10 month supply (should be 6).

    http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2009/01/13/nationwide-housing-supply-still-outpacing-demand/

  • discos_almadiscos_alma discos_alma 2,164 Posts
    Oliver, we're starting to look too, but there is a huge lack of inventory right now. Our agent has told us that in the next month you will see a huge influx of homes hitting the market. Shit just keeps dropping like crazy.

    (?) Overall housing inventory is still extremely high. I think nationally its still running at a 10 month supply (should be 6).

    http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2009/01/13/nationwide-housing-supply-still-outpacing-demand/

    He's talking about Rockridge, one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the East Bay, also where I live. In my zip the average house sells for $850,000 and prices have steadily been increasing[/b] despite the recession so far. It has largely been insulated from the bad times until like last month. Moving forward, shit is about to get real for many of them rich folk. I rent, thanks u very much.

  • GrafwritahGrafwritah 4,184 Posts
    Oliver, we're starting to look too, but there is a huge lack of inventory right now. Our agent has told us that in the next month you will see a huge influx of homes hitting the market. Shit just keeps dropping like crazy.

    (?) Overall housing inventory is still extremely high. I think nationally its still running at a 10 month supply (should be 6).

    http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2009/01/13/nationwide-housing-supply-still-outpacing-demand/

    He's talking about Rockridge, one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the East Bay, also where I live. In my zip the average house sells for $850,000 and prices have steadily been increasing[/b] despite the recession so far. It has largely been insulated from the bad times until like last month. Moving forward, shit is about to get real for many of them rich folk. I rent, thanks u very much.

    Interesting. Seems like that would only benefit the people who already owned property in the neighborhood. Better to buy in a place when values have gotten shit on but will likely rebound (no Detroit).

  • cpeetzcpeetz 2,112 Posts
    A good house at a good price is tough to pass up. It's a good investment and there are a s**tload of other benefits.

    You never know what your neighbor situation will be like a week, month, year, 5 years down the road. You can find a decent place with great neighbors and they all move out within a year and a bunch of jackasses worse than this guy take their place.

    He's got a point. We have a crazy neighbor, overgrown yard, constantly barking dog, abandoned cars
    parked in front of our house for months at a time and so on.
    We've had plenty of words over the years but we basically ignore one another now.
    When the weather gets nice I'll have to start dealing again as she's promised to fix her failing fence for
    the last 2 years.
    But all that said she's never called the cops on us or filmed us, that is some next level stuff.
    Good luck on your house hunt O!

  • NateBizzoNateBizzo 2,328 Posts
    Oliver, we're starting to look too, but there is a huge lack of inventory right now. Our agent has told us that in the next month you will see a huge influx of homes hitting the market. Shit just keeps dropping like crazy.

    (?) Overall housing inventory is still extremely high. I think nationally its still running at a 10 month supply (should be 6).

    http://blogs.wsj.com/developments/2009/01/13/nationwide-housing-supply-still-outpacing-demand/

    He's talking about Rockridge, one of the wealthiest neighborhoods in the East Bay, also where I live. In my zip the average house sells for $850,000 and prices have steadily been increasing[/b] despite the recession so far. It has largely been insulated from the bad times until like last month. Moving forward, shit is about to get real for many of them rich folk. I rent, thanks u very much.


    Prices will be coming down, it's already started happening. I'm happy renting now, but I'm ready to pounce if the right house in the right neighborhood for the right price (not the price you mention above) comes on the market.

  • DrWuDrWu 4,021 Posts
    I wouldn't go near that property for anything. Neighbor sanity levels are crucial to your own mental health. I gotta believe that you could find a million great deals in LA.

  • Controller_7Controller_7 4,052 Posts

    Middle-aged. Has a live-in girlfriend. No kids. He's some white collar worker.




    "YOUR BOOGALOO IS TOO LOUD!!! I"M CALLING THE COPS!"

  • Birdman9Birdman9 5,417 Posts
    DON'T DO IT



    Trust me, if you are able to find out about somebody BEFORE moving in, it's a million times worse for the people who live there.

    At my last address I had a group of hillbillies living across the street who will NEVER leave that house. NEVER. Considering what you just described, they weren't even that bad, but you couldn't tell me that at the time.

    The best you can hope for are neutral neighbors, nice folks who mind their own goddam business except to keep an eye out for trouble and suspicious shit.

  • FrankFrank 2,373 Posts


    He poisons neighborhood dogs. (Though no one's been able to definitively prove this).

    Holy shit... someone would poison one of my dogs, I'd shamlesly exploit my immunity and kill his ass dead without such thing as a second thought.

  • ariel_calmerariel_calmer 3,762 Posts
    Yeah I'd stay away, O. I can't deal with really bad neighbors. The only neighbors who really got on my nerves lately shared our split... husband was a complete jackass. A happy day when they moved out.

    He'd only talk to us when he was smashed drunk, and then talk about how he doesn't mind paying for the kid he had with his wife, but not her two kids from a previous marriage. Classy. We got into arguments about stupid things, like garbage and how he always felt entitled to the "better" parking space. They had really bad domestic disputes regularly. Finally the cops were called, not by us, actually, but I was about to a few times.

    People across the way must be completely deaf and have their television on 120 decibels about 18 hours a day. Better than the previous neighbors...

    In that building, one night a girlfriend came out, grabbed a stone from the garden (such as it is), and smashed out every one of the windows in their car. I did call the cops that time.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts

    Middle-aged. Has a live-in girlfriend. No kids. He's some white collar worker.




    "YOUR BOOGALOO IS TOO LOUD!!! I"M CALLING THE COPS!"

    Why you assuming he's White?

    (No, seriously, he's Indonesian actually).

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts


    He poisons neighborhood dogs. (Though no one's been able to definitively prove this).

    Holy shit... someone would poison one of my dogs, I'd shamlesly exploit my immunity and kill his ass dead without such thing as a second thought.

    For real. I'm surprised there hasn't been some harsher repercussions regarding this but from my sense of the neighborhood, there's not a lot of "real world moves" going on there. This d-bag tends to use the local police dept to "investigate" (read: waste their time) noise complaints while the neighbors are readying some kind of legal complaint against him.

    It's just hard to know to what extent people will take shit. This guy sounds like a class A asshole but he's never had a violent, direct confrontation with any human but who knows his capacity to escalate shit? It's like I>Lakeview Terrace[/i] except where Sam Jackson's Black cop is replaced by an Indonesian chemical engineer.

  • FrankFrank 2,373 Posts


    He poisons neighborhood dogs. (Though no one's been able to definitively prove this).

    Holy shit... someone would poison one of my dogs, I'd shamlesly exploit my immunity and kill his ass dead without such thing as a second thought.

    For real. I'm surprised there hasn't been some harsher repercussions regarding this but from my sense of the neighborhood, there's not a lot of "real world moves" going on there. This d-bag tends to use the local police dept to "investigate" (read: waste their time) noise complaints while the neighbors are readying some kind of legal complaint against him.

    It's just hard to know to what extent people will take shit. This guy sounds like a class A asshole but he's never had a violent, direct confrontation with any human but who knows his capacity to escalate shit? It's like I>Lakeview Terrace[/i] except where Sam Jackson's Black cop is replaced by an Indonesian chemical engineer.

    I guess he's just crazy enough to have people scared. Probably for a reason. I mean it doesn't sound like a good idea to test someone if he's crazy with the capacity of taking it to a violent level or crazy but easily scared and will back down if met with violence or a real threat thereof...
    I'd definitely stay away. There is already enough risk of having to deal with assholes in day to day life, no need to move next door to a sociopath.
    Chances are, he'll get his one day. Hopefully before he advances from poisoning dogs to the next logical step.

  • Sort out the neighbour good and proper "Gran Torino" style




  • O,

    we just moved because our neigbour was crazy. We discovered that being comfortable in your own home and being able to truly relax and "do your thing" is worth it's weight in gold - i'd rather have a crappy house w/ a leaking roof than go back to a "crazy neighbour" situation.

    Emotional well-being > a financial deal. Don't do it.

  • JRootJRoot 861 Posts
    We had a crazy neighbor in Chicago -- she allegedly chased after our other neighbor with a chemical suit on and some kind of chemical sprayer. She hated the developer who built our building on the property next to her house -- run ins about sand and construction debris and things -- and her hatred extended to us, the tenants.

    She used to throw rocks over the fence and at our basement neighbor's car sometimes (he didn't get a garage spot). But we coexisted with her pretty peacefully despite the insanity. I hear that our other neighbor is friends with her now (not the one she tried to poison to death - that neighbor moved away).

    We didn't know that she was batty before we bought -- if we had known, we probably still would have bought. Her problems don't seem to get to the level of this creep, though. She never called the cops on anyone (suspected drug activity in her house-related). And she never poisoned anyone's dog.
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