all in all, couldnt any other motherfuckers get some anthemic songs out before inauguration day? did it absolutely have to be young jeezy??!?
where's chuck and flav?????
lol. dude Jeezy is a way more authentic voice for pretty much ANY message than is Flav these days.
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
All this stuff, whether implied or stated outright, about how Jay's lyric isn't complex enough, or deep enough, or profound enough, is Straight. Up. Bullshit.
This is exactly like the calypsos, or the griots, or the talking blues. It's talking about what's going on right now in a way in which its intended audience (and beyond) will be able to connect with and relate to. It is what rap music is all about. How the F*ck are people missing this?
As for getting hung up on the materialistic aspect, well, that's just some wood-for-the trees shit. This is Jay, remember - this is what he does. Moreover, for the most part, this is what rap does. Remember too that he's riffing on Jeezy's concept here. I can understand how people might think the tone is a little off in places, but again, this is Jay. Is he supposed to feel embarrassed about his lifestyle now? For the next four years? Or, lord willing, for the next eight years? He knows he's a man who's done alright while others have struggled, but he's also saying that this doesn't matter right now; that this is something much, much bigger. Bellyaching about references to cars and jewellery in a rap song is like complaining about ice-cream being cold. If you want poetry, go read a poem. There's a time and a place for everything, and one thing isn't any better than the other just because it comes from the Library of Congress instead of a mixtape you bought off Ty-Ty on the corner.
I would also like for Mad Drama Teacher to explain to me--preferably in annoyingly condescending detail--why the burger I enjoyed last night was, in fact, not at all delicious.
Meaty it was teeth gnashing smashing lettuce and pickles crunching I AM MUNCHING LUNCHING ENJOYING MY MEAL is it art? my burger? my whopper? my life? blody babies dying penises tittys ART POETRY WHOPPERS TITTYS PENISES DRAMA
I would also like for Mad Drama Teacher to explain to me--preferably in annoyingly condescending detail--why the burger I enjoyed last night was, in fact, not at all delicious.
I know what you're saying. "There's no accounting for taste."
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Can you throw 'em o'er your shoulder like a Continental soldier? Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Do they make a lusty clamor when you hit them with a hammer? Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Can you bounce 'em off the wall like an Indian rubber ball? Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Do they have a hollow sound when you drag 'em on the ground? Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Do they have a mellow tingle when you hit 'em with a shingle? Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Do they have a salty taste when you wrap 'em 'round your waist? Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro? Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow? Do they chime like a gong when you pull upon your dong? Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
DocMcCoy"Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,917 Posts
Comedy. Now they're all about "bringing the country together"? What happened to "real America" vs. "the liberal elite"? Red states vs. blue states? National unity wasn't an issue then?
I mean, Bobo leaving in a huff aside... did everyone really miss the point of the original poast? It's not about Jay's lyrics - and certainly not Jeezy's - but the whole vibe of the place, the crowd's reaction, the excitement and joy of that clip... That's why I poasted it, that's what struck me about it, gave me goosebumps honestly. And instead dudes want to debate the lyricism of Jay's verse or the materialism in the original track.
I mean, talk about missing the forest for the trees.
I realize we're a long way from Public Enemy (and Reasonable Doubt) these days, but damn... Some of you sound like you masturbate a lot because you actually believe it kills kittens.
I mean, Bobo leaving in a huff aside... did everyone really miss the point of the original poast? It's not about Jay's lyrics - and certainly not Jeezy's - but the whole vibe of the place, the crowd's reaction, the excitement and joy of that clip... That's why I poasted it, that's what struck me about it, gave me goosebumps honestly. And instead dudes want to debate the lyricism of Jay's verse or the materialism in the original track.
I mean, talk about missing the forest for the trees.
I realize we're a long way from Public Enemy (and Reasonable Doubt) these days, but damn... Some of you sound like you masturbate a lot because you actually believe it kills kittens.
HAHAHAHA... I played both sides of the fence (loving the OG, bitching about the materialistic lyrics) but, I hear what you're saying.
Especially after seeing the dinosaurs O'Reilly and Miller (seriously, he's got like Early Onset Old Asshole disease...) cover their eyes as people cheer for their boy to leave.
I mean, Bobo leaving in a huff aside... did everyone really miss the point of the original poast? It's not about Jay's lyrics - and certainly not Jeezy's - but the whole vibe of the place, the crowd's reaction, the excitement and joy of that clip... That's why I poasted it, that's what struck me about it, gave me goosebumps honestly. And instead dudes want to debate the lyricism of Jay's verse or the materialism in the original track.
I mean, talk about missing the forest for the trees.
not to sound like a dick, but i could poast a hundred videos of crowds going bezerker to musical performances. i totally understand the vibe that was captured and was touched by it as well. it's just sad to me that this was the epic song of week. it also bothered me that of all the throw away "hot song for the week" joints that jay or jeezy do, they both chose this one to talk about their money, maybach, diamonds, etc...it's not fitting. call me "mad doggie" or disconnected or whatever you all may like, but they are both capable of doing more and i am not accepting that turd of a song in my catalouge of things that i'll remember about this week.
I mean, Bobo leaving in a huff aside... did everyone really miss the point of the original poast? It's not about Jay's lyrics - and certainly not Jeezy's - but the whole vibe of the place, the crowd's reaction, the excitement and joy of that clip... That's why I poasted it, that's what struck me about it, gave me goosebumps honestly. And instead dudes want to debate the lyricism of Jay's verse or the materialism in the original track.
I mean, talk about missing the forest for the trees.
not to sound like a dick, but i could poast a hundred videos of crowds going bezerker to musical performances. i totally understand the vibe that was captured and was touched by it as well. it's just sad to me that this was the epic song of week. it also bothered me that of all the throw away "hot song for the week" joints that jay or jeezy do, they both chose this one to talk about their money, maybach, diamonds, etc...it's not fitting. call me "mad doggie" or disconnected or whatever you all may like, but they are both capable of doing more and i am not accepting that turd of a song in my catalouge of things that i'll remember about this week.
I hear u but wouldnt a We Love Obama song been way too obvious.
And lets be real - do you really expect Jay-Z to start droppin heavy science in that situation.
I dont think the Talib Kwali approach would have worked at this time, ot at least w/ this song.
I wouldnt own that song in "studio" form either but thats not the case.
I dont even call it a full song - its just some "random" moment that hit during Obama's ascension to office.
I hear u but wouldnt a We Love Obama song been way too obvious.
And lets be real - do you really expect Jay-Z to start droppin heavy science in that situation.
I dont think the Talib Kwali approach would have worked at this time, ot at least w/ this song.
I wouldnt own that song in "studio" form either but thats not the case.
I dont even call it a full song - its just some "random" moment that hit during Obama's ascension to office.
Why project more onto it than what it is?
"I want a 'real' anthem - fusk this clip."
i was never in need of any "obama anthem". IMO that video/song is just a reflection of the sad state of what passes for music/what the public will accept in '09. especially coming from a man that many consider to be one of the GOATs. that is all. i feel no need to read into it any further. the fact that jay felt it cool to bring up his baller status on a song about OBAMA BECOMING PRESIDENT speaks wonders about him.
no diss, but the fact that a handful of you dudes on here can't accept the fact that a few of us find this song extremely weak makes you all look insecure. that song is on "eeny, meeny, miny, moe" status and you guys are trying to defend it for whatever reason.
I hear u but wouldnt a We Love Obama song been way too obvious.
And lets be real - do you really expect Jay-Z to start droppin heavy science in that situation.
I dont think the Talib Kwali approach would have worked at this time, ot at least w/ this song.
I wouldnt own that song in "studio" form either but thats not the case.
I dont even call it a full song - its just some "random" moment that hit during Obama's ascension to office.
Why project more onto it than what it is?
"I want a 'real' anthem - fusk this clip."
i was never in need of any "obama anthem". IMO that video/song is just a reflection of the sad state of what passes for music/what the public will accept in '09. especially coming from a man that many consider to be one of the GOATs. that is all. i feel no need to read into it any further. the fact that jay felt it cool to bring up his baller status on a song about OBAMA BECOMING PRESIDENT speaks wonders about him.
no diss, but the fact that a handful of you dudes on here can't accept the fact that a few of us find this song extremely weak makes you all look insecure. that song is on "eeny, meeny, miny, moe" status and you guys are trying to defend it for whatever reason.
expect more from your favorite lyricists.
Cmon Cas - how does are disagreement equate insecurity on anyone's part. That's extra.
with all the music that gets clowned around here the "i accept it for what it is" defense is weak and you know it. you can accept anything for what it is...it doesn't mean that it's not teh suck.
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lol. dude Jeezy is a way more authentic voice for pretty much ANY message than is Flav these days.
This is exactly like the calypsos, or the griots, or the talking blues. It's talking about what's going on right now in a way in which its intended audience (and beyond) will be able to connect with and relate to. It is what rap music is all about. How the F*ck are people missing this?
As for getting hung up on the materialistic aspect, well, that's just some wood-for-the trees shit. This is Jay, remember - this is what he does. Moreover, for the most part, this is what rap does. Remember too that he's riffing on Jeezy's concept here. I can understand how people might think the tone is a little off in places, but again, this is Jay. Is he supposed to feel embarrassed about his lifestyle now? For the next four years? Or, lord willing, for the next eight years? He knows he's a man who's done alright while others have struggled, but he's also saying that this doesn't matter right now; that this is something much, much bigger. Bellyaching about references to cars and jewellery in a rap song is like complaining about ice-cream being cold. If you want poetry, go read a poem. There's a time and a place for everything, and one thing isn't any better than the other just because it comes from the Library of Congress instead of a mixtape you bought off Ty-Ty on the corner.
You guys suck
Still, congrats America!
teeth gnashing smashing
lettuce and pickles crunching
I
AM
MUNCHING
LUNCHING
ENJOYING
MY
MEAL
is it art? my burger?
my whopper?
my life?
blody babies dying
penises
tittys
ART
POETRY
WHOPPERS
TITTYS
PENISES
DRAMA
I know what you're saying. "There's no accounting for taste."
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you throw 'em o'er your shoulder like a Continental soldier?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Do they make a lusty clamor when you hit them with a hammer?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Can you bounce 'em off the wall like an Indian rubber ball?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Do they have a hollow sound when you drag 'em on the ground?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Do they have a mellow tingle when you hit 'em with a shingle?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Do they have a salty taste when you wrap 'em 'round your waist?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
Do your balls hang low? Do they swing to and fro?
Can you tie 'em in a knot? Can you tie 'em in a bow?
Do they chime like a gong when you pull upon your dong?
Can you do the double shuffle when your balls hang low?
O'Reilly called Jeezy "little" though; nagl.
"Highland Park" dude it's "HYDE Park." idiot.
I mean, talk about missing the forest for the trees.
I realize we're a long way from Public Enemy (and Reasonable Doubt) these days, but damn... Some of you sound like you masturbate a lot because you actually believe it kills kittens.
HAHAHAHA... I played both sides of the fence (loving the OG, bitching about the materialistic lyrics) but, I hear what you're saying.
Especially after seeing the dinosaurs O'Reilly and Miller (seriously, he's got like Early Onset Old Asshole disease...) cover their eyes as people cheer for their boy to leave.
Bring it!
not to sound like a dick, but i could poast a hundred videos of crowds going bezerker to musical performances. i totally understand the vibe that was captured and was touched by it as well. it's just sad to me that this was the epic song of week. it also bothered me that of all the throw away "hot song for the week" joints that jay or jeezy do, they both chose this one to talk about their money, maybach, diamonds, etc...it's not fitting. call me "mad doggie" or disconnected or whatever you all may like, but they are both capable of doing more and i am not accepting that turd of a song in my catalouge of things that i'll remember about this week.
Crowd should have booed them off the stage for that nonsense
time to look forward, not backwards
LOL. so true
istill liked it
I hear u but wouldnt a We Love Obama song been way too obvious.
And lets be real - do you really expect Jay-Z to start droppin heavy science in that situation.
I dont think the Talib Kwali approach would have worked at this time, ot at least w/ this song.
I wouldnt own that song in "studio" form either but thats not the case.
I dont even call it a full song - its just some "random" moment that hit during Obama's ascension to office.
Why project more onto it than what it is?
"I want a 'real' anthem - fusk this clip."
i was never in need of any "obama anthem". IMO that video/song is just a reflection of the sad state of what passes for music/what the public will accept in '09. especially coming from a man that many consider to be one of the GOATs. that is all. i feel no need to read into it any further. the fact that jay felt it cool to bring up his baller status on a song about OBAMA BECOMING PRESIDENT speaks wonders about him.
no diss, but the fact that a handful of you dudes on here can't accept the fact that a few of us find this song extremely weak makes you all look insecure. that song is on "eeny, meeny, miny, moe" status and you guys are trying to defend it for whatever reason.
expect more from your favorite lyricists.
Cmon Cas - how does are disagreement equate insecurity on anyone's part.
That's extra.
You expect more - I accept what it is.
^^that's my bottom line.^^
how is this song acceptable?
with all the music that gets clowned around here the "i accept it for what it is" defense is weak and you know it. you can accept anything for what it is...it doesn't mean that it's not teh suck.