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Obama's half-hour address... (NRR)

waxjunkywaxjunky 1,850 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
b, 21Does this worry anyone? It seems like Obama should just keep his head down and campaign the battle-ground states to the finish.b, 21b, 21McCain is going to criticize Obama for spending money on a half-hour political ad. I'm wondering if the upside is there at all in giving a half-hour address.b,121b, 21I suppose the speech will have the potential to be great, but I'm not sure if the content will be "rah rah" or defensive or aggressive.b, 21b, 21Thoughts?

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  • selperfugeselperfuge 1,165 Posts
    you sound poor
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Maybe it will finally put to rest all of the bullshit rumors circulating about him.
  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121NRRb,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21b,121LOL. Maybe we should just start using "NOR" until after the election.
  • waxjunkywaxjunky 1,850 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121you sound poor b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Exactly why I can't afford four more years of Republicanism.
  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Does this worry anyone? It seems like Obama should just keep his head down and campaign the battle-ground states to the finish.b, 21b, 21McCain is going to criticize Obama for spending money on a half-hour political ad. I'm wondering if the upside is there at all in giving a half-hour address.b,121b, 21I suppose the speech will have the potential to be great, but I'm not sure if the content will be "rah rah" or defensive or aggressive.b, 21b, 21Thoughts? b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Dude, unless Obama gets there and starts screaming: "I wanna kill all the crackers and steal their wives!" the "damage" this could do is pretty minimal. At worst, people will get bored and change the channel. But these days, McCain's complaining about Obama's media budget isn't exactly f*cking with "friendly with terrorists" on the level of trash talk.b,121b, 21As for the content, you already know what this will be: it will be Obama as the guy next door who is also an unflappable leader, i.e. "you can trust me even though I'm Black!"
  • waxjunkywaxjunky 1,850 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Does this worry anyone? It seems like Obama should just keep his head down and campaign the battle-ground states to the finish.b, 21b, 21McCain is going to criticize Obama for spending money on a half-hour political ad. I'm wondering if the upside is there at all in giving a half-hour address.b,121b, 21I suppose the speech will have the potential to be great, but I'm not sure if the content will be "rah rah" or defensive or aggressive.b, 21b, 21Thoughts? b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Dude, unless Obama gets there and starts screaming: "I wanna kill all the crackers and steal their wives!" the "damage" this could do is pretty minimal. At worst, people will get bored and change the channel. But these days, McCain's complaining about Obama's media budget isn't exactly f*cking with "friendly with terrorists" on the level of trash talk.b,121b, 21As for the content, you already know what this will be: it will be Obama as the guy next door who is also an unflappable leader, i.e. "you can trust me even though I'm Black!" b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Might this speech come across as a premature State of the Union address? Now, I don't really expect Obama to be subject to such hubris, but still.
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    The Obama campaign provided the New York Times with a one minute trailer of the the half hour infomercial:b,121b, 21a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/us/politics/29obama.html?partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all" target="_blank"1http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/us/pol...&pagewanted=all/a1
  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Does this worry anyone? It seems like Obama should just keep his head down and campaign the battle-ground states to the finish.b, 21b, 21McCain is going to criticize Obama for spending money on a half-hour political ad. I'm wondering if the upside is there at all in giving a half-hour address.b,121b, 21I suppose the speech will have the potential to be great, but I'm not sure if the content will be "rah rah" or defensive or aggressive.b, 21b, 21Thoughts? b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'm worried about it, too. The only reason why I'm not more worried is that Obama's been so good with branding and timing so far.b, 21b, 21But if FOX pulls some "we aren't going to air the World Series so that Mr. Obama can have his commercial - heh heh heh" bullshit, then I could see this backfiring.
  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121Does this worry anyone? It seems like Obama should just keep his head down and campaign the battle-ground states to the finish.b, 21b, 21McCain is going to criticize Obama for spending money on a half-hour political ad. I'm wondering if the upside is there at all in giving a half-hour address.b,121b, 21I suppose the speech will have the potential to be great, but I'm not sure if the content will be "rah rah" or defensive or aggressive.b, 21b, 21Thoughts? b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'm worried about it, too. The only reason why I'm not more worried is that Obama's been so good with branding and timing so far.b, 21b, 21But if FOX pulls some "we aren't going to air the World Series so that Mr. Obama can have his commercial - heh heh heh" bullshit, then I could see this backfiring. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121>> McCain presidency when it comes to Fox's ratings. There's nothing better than a Democratic presidency for a right-leaning organization like Fox to rail against. Look at their ratings climb during the Clinton admin compared to the slump they've had under Bush. Believe me, behind closed doors, Fox execs WANT an Obama win.
  • SmallAxeRickSmallAxeRick 497 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121you sound poor b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Exactly why I can't afford four more years of Republicanism. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21This makes no sense...b,121Unless you're talking about Obama, "spreading that wealth around."
  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121you sound poor b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121Exactly why I can't afford four more years of Republicanism. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21This makes no sense...b,121Unless you're talking about Obama, "spreading that wealth around." b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21^ New to the politics gameb, 21b,121b/wb,121b,121b,121/font1
    Quote:/font1h,121b,121SmallAxeRickb,121b, 21h,121
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  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts
    According to my TV Guide the only major network not carrying this is ABC.b,121b, 21They apparently have a McCain documentary they are showing instead called "Pushing Daisies"??
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121The Obama campaign provided the New York Times with a one minute trailer of the the half hour infomercial:b,121b, 21a href="http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/us/politics/29obama.html?partner=rssuserland&emc=rss&pagewanted=all" target="_blank"1http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/29/us/pol...&pagewanted=all b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121b1"IN A WORLD, WHERE CRANKY OLD MEN AND THEIR BATSHIT CRAZY SIDEKICKS WANT TO MOVE INTO THE WHITE HOUSE..."[/b]
  • verb606verb606 2,518 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121According to my TV Guide the only major network not carrying this is ABC.b,121b, 21They apparently have a McCain documentary they are showing instead called "Pushing Daisies"?? b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/funnypost.gif" alt="" /1b,121b, 21b, 21b, 21Seriously, what is the verdict on it postponing the World Series? That wouldn't happen, would it? Would it create enough ill will in Pennsylvania to affect its apparent blue status?
  • Agent45Agent45 451 Posts
    The delay to the W.S. "mini game" is only 17 minutes I think? Not really that big of a deal. If anyone complains, I'm sure Jerome Bettis and Franco Harris can sort that out.b,121b,121img src="http://mespn.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/steelers-for-barack.jpg"1
  • funky16cornersfunky16corners 7,175 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121The delay to the W.S. "mini game" is only 17 minutes I think? Not really that big of a deal. If anyone complains, I'm sure Jerome Bettis and Franco Harris can sort that out.b,121b,121img src="http://mespn.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/steelers-for-barack.jpg"1 b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b, 21It's nice to see not everyone on the Steelers is a Republican....
  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
    I keep hearing people call this a speech. I haven't watched the trailer, but it is my impression this is a commercial, or as stated above an infomercial, or a mini-documentary. b,121b, 21I don't think he will speak live, not because he might screw up, but because somebody speaking into the camera is for 30 minutes is boring. b,121b, 21When I was a kid the 30 minute political ad was a tradition, and in my house greatly anticipated. b,121b, 21As to Obama's vast campaign riches. I find the money spent on campaigns appalling. Obama's choice to forgo public financing, and McCain's use of public finance loopholes, shine a bright light on the filthy influence buying that is American politics.b,121b, 21On the other hand, I said months ago that it would take huge quantities of money to combat McCain's attempts to define Obama. He has done very well (I hope) convincing a majority of voters that he is not who they say he is.
  • DB_CooperDB_Cooper Manhatin' 7,823 Posts
    Word is, it'll be Obamaismyhomeboy at a table with 4 or 5 families talking with them about their needs and concerns, with Obamaismyhomeboy turning to the camera at times to address the American people directly.b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121b,121Obamaismyhomeboy.
  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
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  • kidinquisitivekidinquisitive 1,627 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121 b,121b, 21As to Obama's vast campaign riches. I find the money spent on campaigns appalling. Obama's choice to forgo public financing, and McCain's use of public finance loopholes, shine a bright light on the filthy influence buying that is American politics.b,121b,121On the other hand, I said months ago that it would take huge quantities of money to combat McCain's attempts to define Obama. He has done very well (I hope) convincing a majority of voters that he is not who they say he is. b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121I don't think it's all that horrible, in context. The context being that $150 million will be spent at the drop of a hat to make a total shit summer movie. So figure for the price of two crummy movies you're getting a presidential campaign instead. And a damn inspiring one at that. If he was getting all the money from corporate America then yeah, obviously, but it's my understanding it's mostly regular people giving the money.
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Taken from another msg board:b,121b, 21/font1
    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121I weep for my Grandchildren that a so called man can lie like a f*cking rug and people fall for it.b,121b,121Rev Wright said (forgive me Father) god damn America, prolly cause he knew Obama would follow through on the request.b,121b,121I'll give up my rights when they pry my cold dead hands from my weapon. The luciferions are here!! b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b, 21I guess not everyone liked it img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /1b,121b,121I did. b,121b, 21I thought it was a little over the top in the promises, but other than that I think it did exactly what it was supposed to do. I almost got a little choked up at the end (yeah yeah). We're witnessing history.
  • JustAliceJustAlice 1,308 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Taken from another msg board:b,121b, 21/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121I weep for my Grandchildren that a so called man can lie like a f*cking rug and people fall for it.b,121b,121Rev Wright said (forgive me Father) god damn America, prolly cause he knew Obama would follow through on the request.b,121b,121I'll give up my rights when they pry my cold dead hands from my weapon. The luciferions are here!! b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b, 21I guess not everyone liked it img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /1b,121b,121I did. b, 21b, 21I thought it was a little over the top in the promises, but other than that I think it did exactly what it was supposed to do. I almost got a little choked up at the end (yeah yeah). We're witnessing history. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Yeah, A bit Sensational was what came to my mind, but still it remained somewhat tasteful....no mention of John or Sarah ( I love how "they" have basically not even acknowledged S.P. aside from the VP debates ) Even so, It is what is is.b,121b,121b,121A good friend of mine said tonight, "but yeah, can't you say that about everything?"b,121b,121to which I replied..." Yup,. thats why It is what it is"
  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    that was pretty great imo
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    I like how this thread has NRR on it.b,121b,121Obama's half hour address... about ECM and modal jazz!
  • GaryGary 3,982 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I like how this thread has NRR on it.b,121b,121Obama's half hour address... about ECM and modal jazz! b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121HA!
  • jimeyjimey 279 Posts
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    font class="post"1b,121thanks for posting. watching this was amazing!
  • Jonny_PaycheckJonny_Paycheck 17,825 Posts
    I too thought it was great. McCain already sounds like a cranky old man while criticizing it...
  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I too thought it was great. McCain already sounds like a cranky old man while criticizing it... b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b,121"Failed promises, my friends!" Frankly, his characterization of this commercial as (paraphrased) "feel-good" is really missing the point. Did he really watch this? Some segments are downright somber.b,121b,121I'm still not sure how he's going to pay for half of these programs. The "no income tax for seniors making less than $50,000" pledge is a nice idea, but there's a reason why Illinois' Governor ended up screwing the CTA budget over the "free rides for seniors" bullshit that he wedged through, costing the city millions of dollars per year. Honorable ideas still cost real money to implement.
  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts
    McCain is starting to use 'air quotes' almost as much as he says 'my friends.'
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