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font class="post"1 b,121b, 21What did British Music sound like before this? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121img src="http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Gastenboek/georgemetbajo.jpg"1b,121george formby? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121During the 50s what were British Teens creating? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Well there weren't 'teens' until you Americans invented them, so they were probably aping Americans. b,121b,121But Britain was still suffering the effects of WWII in the 50s so your average teenager wouldn't have been able to afford to do much. But I've heard that the tradjazz scene were like the ravers of their day. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Being poor never restricted creativity. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Well it's relative. Being poor in a rich country isn't as restrictive as being poor in a poor country. Something like a guitar for instance would've been very expensive, and out reach for your average working class British teenager. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I feel you. So when does youth culture turn the corner?b,121b, 21When were the Beatles giggin'? When did Jagger and them start cloning African-Americans?b,121b, 21Were there kids doin Skiffle and then heard Little Richard and get open?
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font class="post"1 b,121b, 21What did British Music sound like before this? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121img src="http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Gastenboek/georgemetbajo.jpg"1b,121george formby? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121During the 50s what were British Teens creating? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Well there weren't 'teens' until you Americans invented them, so they were probably aping Americans. b,121b,121But Britain was still suffering the effects of WWII in the 50s so your average teenager wouldn't have been able to afford to do much. But I've heard that the tradjazz scene were like the ravers of their day. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Being poor never restricted creativity. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Well it's relative. Being poor in a rich country isn't as restrictive as being poor in a poor country. Something like a guitar for instance would've been very expensive, and out reach for your average working class British teenager. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I feel you. So when does youth culture turn the corner?b,121b, 21When were the Beatles giggin'? When did Jagger and them start cloning African-Americans?b,121b, 21Were there kids doin Skiffle and then heard Little Richard and get open? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Between skiffle and the Stones, there were white musicians like Cyril Davies and Alexis Korner who brought the blues to the UK.b,121b,121(And we're also forgetting about that first wave of British rock before the Beatles took off - the Shadows, the Tornadoes [who did Pipeline], Heinz, Mike Berry.)b,121b,121And this is the short version.b,121b,121Oh, and also in pre-'64 England, there was also THIS duo:b,121img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61TPVEF3KVL._SL500_AA240_.jpg"1b,121b,121Sappy tune, but a CLASSIC album cover!!!
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font class="post"1 b,121b, 21What did British Music sound like before this? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121img src="http://www.engelfriet.net/Alie/Gastenboek/georgemetbajo.jpg"1b,121george formby? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121During the 50s what were British Teens creating? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121b,121Well there weren't 'teens' until you Americans invented them, so they were probably aping Americans. b,121b,121But Britain was still suffering the effects of WWII in the 50s so your average teenager wouldn't have been able to afford to do much. But I've heard that the tradjazz scene were like the ravers of their day. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Being poor never restricted creativity. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Well it's relative. Being poor in a rich country isn't as restrictive as being poor in a poor country. Something like a guitar for instance would've been very expensive, and out reach for your average working class British teenager. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121I feel you. So when does youth culture turn the corner?b,121b, 21When were the Beatles giggin'? When did Jagger and them start cloning African-Americans?b,121b, 21Were there kids doin Skiffle and then heard Little Richard and get open? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Between skiffle and the Stones, there were white musicians like Cyril Davies and Alexis Korner who brought the blues to the UK.b,121b,121(And we're also forgetting about that first wave of British rock before the Beatles took off - the Shadows, the Tornadoes [who did Pipeline], Heinz, Mike Berry.)b,121b,121And this is the short version.b,121b,121Oh, and also in pre-'64 England, there was also THIS duo:b,121img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61TPVEF3KVL._SL500_AA240_.jpg"1b,121b,121Sappy tune, but a CLASSIC album cover!!! b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121Thanks SirPickwickb,121b,121b,121I wrote out a lengthy answer but it got lost in the "This form is no longer valid" spiderwhole. b,121b,121b,121To sum it up.b,121b,121WWII ends - people happy - make babies - 15 years later - economy recovers - large increase in number of teenagers = 60s youth culture boom.b,121b,121The British have always followed American music / youth culture, playing catch-up, then re-interpreting it (slightly)b,121b,121I don't know the real reasons why The Stones and the other blues influenced groups, switched from being influence by current White US music, to older Black American music (Apart from the obvious.)
There used to be this vinyl two-record set on Sire in the seventies called Roots Of British Rock, which answers all your questions about what UK kids did before the Beatles took off...it's more or less a summation of the British pop scene as it was in the fifties and early sixties...and when I say "pop," I do mean "pop"...for every one actual rock & roll song (like Mike Berry's awesome "Tribute To Buddy Holly"), there were about three pop/skiffle/trad-jazz-type acts, like the Caravelles or Mr. Acker Bilk. Out of print for decades, but still pops up every now and then cheap in used stores. Plus, the cover photo of the 13-year-old kid in his bedroom, playing a hollow-bodied electric guitar and sitting on top of one of those real little amps they used to make back in the fifties...total classic. (Not an actual '50s photo, the shot is obviously a 1970's simulation of the fifties, but STILL...)b,121b,121No blues, but for that you'd have to track down Sire's History Of British Blues.
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