font class="post"1b,121b, 21"but wise-are the ones- with the eyes- in the back- of the head". MONCH. img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oj.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oj.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/oj.gif" alt="" /1
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121my fave steez b,121but will it ever arise again? b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21It never died. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21It mutated into chopped fast rap ala Twista, Project Blowed, Gangsta Pat, Bone, Brotha Lynch Hung, Tech Nine, Guerilla Maab, etc.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121my fave steez b,121but will it ever arise again? b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21It never died. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21It mutated into chopped fast rap ala Twista, Project Blowed, Gangsta Pat, Bone, Brotha Lynch Hung, Tech Nine, Guerilla Maab, etc. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21I'm glad you caught my pass.
There's a huge difference betweenb,121b, 21FAST RAP: Rapping over beats that are at least 116 BPM.b, 21FAST RAPPING: Rapping fast by fitting as many words as you can into each bar.b,121b,121Let's stay focused here guys.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121There's a huge difference betweenb,121b, 21FAST RAP: Rapping over beats that are at least 116 BPM.b, 21FAST RAPPING: Rapping fast by fitting as many words as you can into each bar.b,121b,121Let's stay focused here guys. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21Actually, there is no difference...fast rapping could be given the accapella treatment and layed over any speed beat that just so happens to fit its intervals. b,121b, 21And chopped rap is just a certain style of fast rap, pretty much the only one that's been relevant the past 15 years. Just ask Busta.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121There's a huge difference betweenb,121b, 21FAST RAP: Rapping over beats that are at least 116 BPM.b, 21FAST RAPPING: Rapping fast by fitting as many words as you can into each bar.b,121b,121Let's stay focused here guys. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21Actually, there is no difference...fast rapping could be given the accapella treatment and layed over any speed beat b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21like mash-ups?
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121There's a huge difference betweenb,121b, 21FAST RAP: Rapping over beats that are at least 116 BPM.b, 21FAST RAPPING: Rapping fast by fitting as many words as you can into each bar.b,121b,121Let's stay focused here guys. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21Actually, there is no difference...fast rapping could be given the accapella treatment and layed over any speed beat b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21like mash-ups? b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Technically I suppose, but don't "mash-ups" imply that the dj doing them is gay?
The UK scene had plenty of fast rap:b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1b, 21b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121Dude, just because you're rapping fast, it doesn't make the beat faster.b,121b,121h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21And? Who aside from you has ever said that fast rap only entails a fast beat to match the fast rapping?b,121b,121The dude who started the thread doesn't seem to have a problem recognizing that all of that (most glorious) golden age shit that you seem to be so hung up on has since become relegated as the pre-cursor to what has now been the dominant fast rap style for about 15 years. b,121b,121/font1
Quote:/font1h,121b,121And can you please post an example of Fast Chopped Rap? b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21Already did...especially in relation to Cali Rag's verse at the end of the clip. b,121b, 21I also listed a group of artists that should give you a really good indication of what chopped fast rap is.b, 21b, 21Continue to knownot if you wish though.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121Nah, I speak yours. You refuse to speak mine. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I still barely have an idea of what you are saying, and what you are insinuating. We can have a f*cking discussion without it being combative, you know...b,121b,121Thanks for the above examples. What is the "chopped" that you are talking about though? Is it the DJ technique does when running doubles, as in "chopped and screwed?"
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Nah, I speak yours. You refuse to speak mine. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b, 21I still barely have an idea of what you are saying, and what you are insinuating. We can have a f*cking discussion without it being combative, you know...b,121b,121Thanks for the above examples. What is the "chopped" that you are talking about though? Is it the DJ technique does when running doubles, as in "chopped and screwed?" b,121b,121h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21You started with that "let's not lose focus" ish, not me...again, Batmon and I are on the same page.b,121b,121Anyway...b,121b,121Chopping is just a particular style of phrasing raps where a certain syncopation gets put on each line. b,121b, 21And if you listen to that Dougie D clip, you can hear how the whole brunt of a verse doesn't have to be fast, as certain fast segments carry the speed of the whole thing.
Yeah I see what you're saying with his phrasing. Didn't know that actually had a name other than "style."b, 21b, 21As for the focus thing, I was just busting balls. But still, just because a rapper is rapping fast, it doesn't make it a fast song - which is what I believe the general accepted definition of what a "fast rap" song means.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
Fast Rap...b,121b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1 b,121b, 21Bitten Chopped Fast Rap...b,121b,121a href="" target="_blank"1 b,121b, 21Going way back to an argument on here from like 4 years agao...the fast rap Jay-Z was doing with Jaz circa 1989 has very little to do with the chopped fast rap Jay-Z was biting and trying to portray himself as an "originator" of in 1999.
HarveyCanal"a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
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Quote:/font1h,121b,121Yeah I see what you're saying with his phrasing. Didn't know that actually had a name other than "style."b, 21b, 21As for the focus thing, I was just busting balls. But still, just because a rapper is rapping fast, it doesn't make it a fast song - which is what I believe the general accepted definition of what a "fast rap" song means. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Fast rhymes = name of thread.b,121b,121Fast rap songs = what you have apparently interpreted the thread to mean. b,121b, 21No problem though...I definitely like the discussion that comes out of it.
Yeah that's definitely what I interpreted this post to be, although apparantly I'm not alone. But both can live here.b, 21b, 21POST SOME MORE FAST RAP, DUDES.
Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Yeah I see what you're saying with his phrasing. Didn't know that actually had a name other than "style."b, 21b, 21As for the focus thing, I was just busting balls. But still, just because a rapper is rapping fast, it doesn't make it a fast song - which is what I believe the general accepted definition of what a "fast rap" song means. b,121b, 21h,121
font class="post"1b,121b,121Fast rhymes = name of thread.b,121b,121Fast rap songs = what you have apparently interpreted the thread to mean. b,121b, 21No problem though...I definitely like the discussion that comes out of it. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b,121But really Batmon's initial post was about how Rakim never really excelled over fast beats like he did over the over the slow ones. So what we were talmbout is rap with beats above 115 bpms, or wherever in that range you wanna set the bar.
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