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Fast Rhymes - Rakim Critique

batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
I usually place Rakim w/ Kane & G.Rap. b, 21b, 21But I think those 2 edge him out when its time to get quick.b, 21b,121And Overall he comes up a lil slow. Juice is kinda fast but still.b,121No Omega is a very good attempt.b, 21b, 21Thoughts?
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  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    I agree with all of that. He gets both of them in slow delivery tho. b, 21No Omega is my SCHITT.
  • cascas 1,484 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I agree with all of that. He gets both of them in slow delivery tho. b, 21No Omega is my SCHITT. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21damn. that was the post that i was going to make.
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    We aint talmbout slow flow.
  • LokoOneLokoOne 1,823 Posts
    But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b,121b, 21I think why Rakim doesnt sound as good as G Rap on fast flows is cuase his voice is deeper, so something about the tone just doesnt work...just like Guru rapping fast, sounds off.
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b,121b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21For real? Nuff respect to Percee, but come on now...
  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,475 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b,121b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21For real? Nuff respect to Percee, but come on now... b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Seriously. Kane and G Rap are pretty much fast-rap standard-bearers. King Sun and Chubb Rock could really bust on some uptempo shit, too.
  • djkingottodjkingotto 1,704 Posts
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  • Mr. CasualMr. Casual 953 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b,121b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21For real? Nuff respect to Percee, but come on now... b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Seriously. Kane and G Rap are pretty much fast-rap standard-bearers. King Sun and Chubb Rock could really bust on some uptempo shit, too. b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21E-40 could bust them up
  • LokoOneLokoOne 1,823 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b,121b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21For real? Nuff respect to Percee, but come on now... b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21I dont know man.I love G Rap, and BDK but I gotta say... Percee has maintained that style and I saw him performing live last year and he was killing it, like a machine gun on the mic... didnt miss a beat or a word (and thats live, no punch ins, no dubs!)... I mean if you listen to the Madlib remix of Percee last LP, it sounds shit cus the beats are too slow for him...thats what made me really appreciate his quick delivery skills.b,121b, 21and we can't forget Treach (at least the first few NBN albums anyways...)
  • Controller_7Controller_7 4,052 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b,121b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21For real? Nuff respect to Percee, but come on now... b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21I dont know man.I love G Rap, and BDK but I gotta say... Percee has maintained that style and I saw him performing live last year and he was killing it, like a machine gun on the mic... didnt miss a beat or a word (and thats live, no punch ins, no dubs!)... I mean if you listen to the Madlib remix of Percee last LP, it sounds shit cus the beats are too slow for him...thats what made me really appreciate his quick delivery skills.b,121b, 21and we can't forget Treach (at least the first few NBN albums anyways...) b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Percee is legendary because you know it's him when you hear him and he's dropped some classics, but he's like a greatest hits ep to G Rap's at least 4 or 5 solid albums. G Rap is the man. Live and Let Die is my shit. To me, G Rap is one of the better GOATS because he made good albums. Good choice of production, good stories, good rhymes, unique voice. He's the winner for me as GOAT because he has made the most albums I can listen to straight through. BDK is a GOAT, but album wise he's not as strong. Percee, sorry, but he's a solid ep.b,121b, 21 img src="http://www.propartganda.com/king/images/goat.jpg"1
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b,121b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21For real? Nuff respect to Percee, but come on now... b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21I dont know man.I love G Rap, and BDK but I gotta say... Percee has maintained that style and I saw him performing live last year and he was killing it, like a machine gun on the mic... didnt miss a beat or a word (and thats live, no punch ins, no dubs!)... b, 21b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 212 months ago:b, 21b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1b, 21b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1b, 21b, 21/font1
    Quote:/font1h,121b,121and we can't forget Treach (at least the first few NBN albums anyways...) b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Now I KNOW you're not for real. Treach? Why don't you throw in Chip Fu and the Micro Machines dude if we're talking about dudes who can just say words fast? img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /1b,121b, 21For real tho, Percee is real nice dude and one of the illest fast rap MCs especially in his prime/ "Let the Homicides Begin"/"Lung Collapsing" days. He just doesn't fit with Madlib style beats.
  • Young_PhonicsYoung_Phonics 8,039 Posts
    dayb,121b, 21NBN got JOINTS. Actually after watching hip-hop honors it made me want to cop/check/stealfromtheinternet their greatest hits.b, 21b,121IDOMYDIRTONMYLONELIES
  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    Nah I'm not writing off all their records, I'm just saying throwing Treach in the mix of BDK, G Rap, Percee for GOAT status is nutso.b, 21b, 21This is supposed to be about Rakim anyway. lol
  • Hotsauce84Hotsauce84 8,450 Posts
    Eligh.
  • m_dejeanm_dejean Quadratisch. Praktisch. Gut. 2,946 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I usually place Rakim w/ Kane & G.Rap. b,121b, 21But I think those 2 edge him out when its time to get quick.b, 21b, 21And Overall he comes up a lil slow. Juice is kinda fast but still.b, 21No Omega is a very good attempt.b, 21b, 21Thoughts? b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Well, the way I see it, he switched from the more discernable, nasal voicing of the early singles like "Eric B Is President" to the more deep, mumbly thing pretty early on (balls hadn't dropped yet?). And while I love the deep-voiced Rakim, the high-pitched yoot Rakim probably would have been more distinctive on fast jams.b, 21b,121I always liked LL Cool J on uptempo jams, even if it wasn't his specialty. He kills it on "Walking With A Panther": "It Get's No Rougher", "Nytro", "Why Do You Think They Call It Dope?" (using the same JB sample as "No Omega"). He sounds good when he's amped.
  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    i would rather listen to treach than percee p for sureb,121b, 21kool g rap is the most listenable of all these dudes to me though
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121But can any off them F*ck with Percee P on the fast tip?b, 21b,121I think why Rakim doesnt sound as good as G Rap on fast flows is cuase his voice is deeper, so something about the tone just doesnt work...just like Guru rapping fast, sounds off. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/pasue23is.gif" alt="" /1b,121b, 21b, 21and Guru sound off at any tempo.b, 21b,121Ill put LL up in here. Same generation.b, 21b, 21I should be able to hear what cats are sayin. b, 21Not That Post Das-Efx diddily widdily shit.
  • DelayDelay 4,530 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Ill put LL up in here. Same generation. b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121NO DOUBT. his verse on "rampage" is just as good as "men at work" or "raw".
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
    Yo, I think Treach is one of the greatest of all time, but we're talking FAST RAPPING here, so let's get back on topic...b,121b, 21/font1
    Quote:/font1h,121b,121I usually place Rakim w/ Kane & G.Rap. b,121b, 21But I think those 2 edge him out when its time to get quick.b, 21b, 21b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Yes.b, 21b, 21/font1
    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b,121b,121And Overall he comes up a lil slow. Juice is kinda fast but still.b,121No Omega is a very good attempt.b,121 b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Yes
  • twoplytwoply Only Built 4 Manzanita Links 2,917 Posts
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  • ThermosThermos 307 Posts
    img src="http://www.humblemagnificent.com/discography/edanstills/FASTRAPCVR.jpg"1b,121b, 211. Big Daddy Kane & Kool G Rap - 'Raw' b, 212. Melle Mel - Freestyle b, 213. Organized Konfusion - 'Prisoners Of War' b, 214. Public Enemy - 'Welcome To The Terrordome'(instrumental)b,1215. Unique - 'Axe-Maniac' b, 216. Bizzie Boyz - 'Mission Accomplished' b, 217. Something For The Bassline b, 218. Lord Finesse & A.G. - 'Back To Back Rhyming' b, 219. Pete Rock & CL Smooth - 'The Creator' b, 2110. Big Daddy Kane - 'Warm It Up Kane' b, 2111. At The Drop Of A Dime (instrumental)b,12112. Dismasters - 'Small Time Hustler' b, 2113. Dismasters - 'Black & Proud' b, 2114. Black, Rock & Ron - 'Stop The World' b, 2115. MC Jewel - 'Reflection Of Perfection' b, 2116. Main Source - 'He Got So Much Soul' b, 2117. Freshco & Miz - 'Now Ya Know' b, 2118. Kool G Rap & DJ Polo - 'Kool Is Back' b, 2119. Percee P & Ekim - 'Lung Collapsing Lyrics' b, 2120. Ultramagnetic MC's - 'Chorus Line' b, 2121. K-Solo - 'Real Solo Please Stand Up' b, 2122. EPMD & LL Cool J - 'Rampage (Remix)' b, 2123. Kid Capri - 'Jokes On You Jack'(instrumental)b,12124. Black Sheep - 'Strobelite Honey (Remix)' b, 2125. Jaz O & Jay-Z - 'It's That Simple' b, 2126. Sir Ibu (of Divine Force) - 'I'm The Peacemakerb, 2127. Eric B & Rakim - 'Know The Ledge'b,121b, 21&b,121b, 21This is a favorite of mines:b,121b, 21a href="" target="_blank"1Intelligent Hoodlum - Arrest The President/a1
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Superlover Cee & Casanova Rud - Gets No Deeper(Remix)
  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,475 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Superlover Cee & Casanova Rud - Gets No Deeper(Remix) b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21Any time I make a beat that's anywhere close to this song's BPM, I run Supe's acapella over it. I must have made 10 different remixes of it at this point. Dude is killing it.
  • CosmoCosmo 9,768 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Superlover Cee & Casanova Rud b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Just saying those names summons Enki like the Candyman.
  • HarveyCanalHarveyCanal "a distraction from my main thesis." 13,234 Posts
    Let me know when y'all start talking about chopped fast rap.
  • DJ_EnkiDJ_Enki 6,475 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121Superlover Cee & Casanova Rud b,121b,121h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Just saying those names summons Enki like the Candyman. b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21It's funny because it's true! ENKI CATNIP!
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Let me know when y'all start talking about chopped fast rap. b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21As long as its of the era..... img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /1
  • kalakala 3,362 Posts
    my fave steez b,121but will it ever arise again?
  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121my fave steez b,121but will it ever arise again? b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21It never died.
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