"Biden Angered By Tough Questions"

onetetonetet 1,753 Posts
edited October 2008 in Strut Central
already posted? b, 21b, 21this clip is interesting on its own merits; it's one of the best examples I've seen of a major Democratic candidate having tough yet reasonable answers to highly politicized badgering from right-wing media. b, 21b, 21but what interests me even more is the way its being circulated on youtube as some sort of victory for the right. the title and text attached to this clip ( "Biden Angered by Tough Questions," a href="" target="_blank"1 )b, 21suggests that Biden somehow failed here. Is the hope that people will simply see the headline, and not watch? Is it for the benefit of people too stupid to digest the content themselves, who will be reassured by the title that although they don't understand the exchange between the reporter and Biden, "their team won"? Or are there really people out there who will view this and feel that Biden "cracked" under the pressure from "tough questions"?b, 21b, 21It reminds me of the (sigh) Joe The Plumber incident. Most anyone who watched the clip of Obama's interaction with JTP saw measured, reasonable, content-driven answers to JTP's questions... and yet the right attempts to claim a victory. b, 21b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1
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  • DocMcCoyDocMcCoy "Go and laugh in your own country!" 5,920 Posts
    Surely it should be "Biden Baffled, Slightly Irritated By Stupid Questions"?

  • Well done Biden

  • People in America are completely losing their mind with the the word "socialist." What I mean is, do they understand that taxes are to fund programs that help the majority of Americans? That's where we're moving with increasingly socialized (there I said it) medicine. Taxes themselves "spread the wealth around" but those who are against it also want more from their government.... serious disconnect. b, 21b, 21/font1
    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Palin said an Obama presidency would lead to government moving into the role of taking care of Americans. She says "they do this in other countries where the people are not free."b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21a href="http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-ne-palin" target="_blank"1http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-ap-ne-palin/a1,0,5140303.storyb,121b, 21There was also a better quote where Palin referenced Obama wanting to get into people's investments and bank accounts, but I can't now find it.

  • who WAS writing her questions? holy F*ck

  • When does he show "anger"?

  • onetetonetet 1,753 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121When does he show "anger"? b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21exactly. b, 21b, 21Obama = Karl Marx is about as ridiculous as you can get, but Biden managed to be effectively dismissive in both content and demeanor. And still, apparently there are people out there that think this reflects poorly on him, instead of being another example of political bias and general airheadery in the media.


  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
    Hey,b,121b, 21I think Joe Biden expertly handled the reporter's incredibly loaded questions. If anything, the interviewer comes off looking like a buffoon, while Biden looked notably unphased and assured in his responses. Spinning this interview to confirm the GOP's position just shows how amazing (and self-serving) perceptual biases can be!!! GTFOOHWTBS!!!b,121b, 21Peace,b,121b, 21Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • darkdark 52 Posts
    Is this fox news or something? Those questions were ridiculous. Big co-sign w/ Big Stacks.

  • his look at 4:26 is priceless.

  • "The right wing blogs are all worked into a lather over an interview Joe Biden did recently with WFTV, a local television station in Orlando. They seem to think Biden somehow embarrassed himself or got rattled during the interview. The fact that they think that is further evidence of the rapidly widening gulf between the reality most of us inhabit and the alternate universe where most right wing bloggers now reside."

  • he was getting mad. i don't blame him.b,121b, 21man I would of love to of been a fly on the wall after he got finished.

  • onetetonetet 1,753 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121"The right wing blogs are all worked into a lather over an interview Joe Biden did recently with WFTV, a local television station in Orlando. They seem to think Biden somehow embarrassed himself or got rattled during the interview. The fact that they think that is further evidence of the rapidly widening gulf between the reality most of us inhabit and the alternate universe where most right wing bloggers now reside." b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21yup. my point in posting it was as follows... i'm genuinely curious if any of the right-wingers reposting and discussing this interview GENUINELY think this reflects poorly on Biden, or they simply feel like McCain and Palin have given them so few positives -- and Obama and Biden so few negatives -- to work with that they have to use Dem-positive raw material and try to retitle and repackage it as negatives. are they really at that level of desperation?b,121b, 21or are they pitching to the lowest common denominator Republican, that special individual who will watch this and think "YES! Someone finally called Biden out as a Marxist to his face!!! You go girl!" and then plug up their ears so they don't hear Biden's reasonable (if appropriately stern) dismantling of the accusation.

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Well done Biden b,121b, 21h,121
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  • JoeMojoJoeMojo 720 Posts
    Holy shit, what's wrong with that woman? This was almost like a Saturday Night Live skit. Good job on Biden's part.

  • dayday 9,612 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121 img src="http://blogs.warwick.ac.uk/images/cpayne/2006/06/05/charlie-sigh-769156.jpg"1 b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21You said it. b,121b, 21Every day I get a little more ashamed of my country. Nov. 4th can't come soon enough.b,121b, 21fui1[/i]cking crackersb,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1

  • Agent45Agent45 451 Posts
    I like how Fox News tried to turn this into a story. Holy Hell. This whole thing is embarrassing for McCain supporters.

  • dont get too depressed at that riffraff...b,121b, 21check this rhetoric:b,121b, 21object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1b, 21b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/green30sv.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/green30sv.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/green30sv.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/green30sv.gif" alt="" /1

  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    Orlando TV "Journalist" Barbara West's Husband is a GOP Media Consultant/b1b,121b, 21img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HYyTF_voonQ/SQOnt_NWH6I/AAAAAAAAA7Q/lOZFt7h7Wfs/s200/wade+west.jpg"1b, 21b, 21Joe Biden got asked some questions from Orlando WFTV reporter Barbara West on Thursday that where loaded with false statements.b,121b, 21Well it turns out that her husband, Wade West, is a political and media consultant for Republican politicians. The GOP talking points Barbara West used in her interview may have come directly from the McCain Palin communications team via her husband Wade.b,121b, 21From Barbara West's website "I am married to Wade West, an international media consultant to politicians, professionals and organizations."b,121b, 21West's media communication and fundraising skills have made him a popular consultant for Republican political candidates ranging from local elections, to more than 85 members of Congress and members of the President???s cabinet.b,121b, 21Wade West is also a Republican donor. West donated $250 to the NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. He gave $500 to Will McBride a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Florida. As well as $500 to John Mica and $1,000 to Richard Keller both GOP congressional candidates in Florida.b,121b, 21(source/a1)

  • Big_StacksBig_Stacks "I don't worry about hittin' power, cause I don't give 'em nuttin' to hit." 4,670 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Orlando TV "Journalist" Barbara West's Husband is a GOP Media Consultant/b1b,121b, 21img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HYyTF_voonQ/SQOnt_NWH6I/AAAAAAAAA7Q/lOZFt7h7Wfs/s200/wade+west.jpg"1b, 21b, 21Joe Biden got asked some questions from Orlando WFTV reporter Barbara West on Thursday that where loaded with false statements.b,121b, 21Well it turns out that her husband, Wade West, is a political and media consultant for Republican politicians. The GOP talking points Barbara West used in her interview may have come directly from the McCain Palin communications team via her husband Wade.b,121b, 21From Barbara West's website "I am married to Wade West, an international media consultant to politicians, professionals and organizations."b,121b, 21West's media communication and fundraising skills have made him a popular consultant for Republican political candidates ranging from local elections, to more than 85 members of Congress and members of the President???s cabinet.b,121b, 21Wade West is also a Republican donor. West donated $250 to the NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. He gave $500 to Will McBride a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Florida. As well as $500 to John Mica and $1,000 to Richard Keller both GOP congressional candidates in Florida.b,121b, 21(source/a1) b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Wow, you gotta love "objective" journalism! img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/talib-doodoo.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/nagl2.gif" alt="" /1 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/weaksauce.gif" alt="" /1b,121b, 21Peace,b,121b, 21Big Stacks from Kakalak

  • onetetonetet 1,753 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Orlando TV "Journalist" Barbara West's Husband is a GOP Media Consultant/b1b,121b, 21img src="http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_HYyTF_voonQ/SQOnt_NWH6I/AAAAAAAAA7Q/lOZFt7h7Wfs/s200/wade+west.jpg"1b, 21b, 21Joe Biden got asked some questions from Orlando WFTV reporter Barbara West on Thursday that where loaded with false statements.b,121b, 21Well it turns out that her husband, Wade West, is a political and media consultant for Republican politicians. The GOP talking points Barbara West used in her interview may have come directly from the McCain Palin communications team via her husband Wade.b,121b, 21From Barbara West's website "I am married to Wade West, an international media consultant to politicians, professionals and organizations."b,121b, 21West's media communication and fundraising skills have made him a popular consultant for Republican political candidates ranging from local elections, to more than 85 members of Congress and members of the President???s cabinet.b,121b, 21Wade West is also a Republican donor. West donated $250 to the NATIONAL REPUBLICAN CONGRESSIONAL COMMITTEE. He gave $500 to Will McBride a Republican candidate for U.S. Senate in Florida. As well as $500 to John Mica and $1,000 to Richard Keller both GOP congressional candidates in Florida.b,121b, 21(source/a1) b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1 b,121b, 21img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/bucs.gif" alt="" /1b,121b, 21that explains a lot

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121Well done Biden b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21No doubt - headline should have been the opposite:b,121"Biden Maintains Poise While Being Ambushed by Bullshit"b,121b, 21Gotta love his ending, quick and dismissive.

  • ignastyignasty 163 Posts
    As someone alright pointed out, same exact thing they are doing with the JoeThePlumber incident.b,121b, 21In general, they seemed to have this strategy going into the debates, e.g. depicting McCain as "on the attack, backing Obama into a corner" etc. etc. In reality, Obama appeared poised and competent and McCain rather disorganized and frazzled, if you will. b, 21b, 21The analysis immediately after the third debate (the only one I watched completely), mostly from the right-wing commentators, claimed the first half-hour as a victory for McCain. Some of the left seemed to be conceding the same. As someone with quite a bit of public speaking experience, John McCain in the first half-hour of that debate reminded me of myself when I am not adequately prepared and searching for a talking point that can get things back on track. A lot of what he said seemed rather disconnected and incoherent.b,121b, 21I think this strategy is being co-opted from the Orwellian mastery of Karl Rove, from the Clear Skies Act all the way back to the Swift Boat-John Kerry thing...except some are now less willing to swallow that pill, maybe.b,121b, 21As for the socialism thing, frankly, I think it's hilarious. The desperation oozing from the McCain campaign is palpable. I heard Lindsey Graham on Meet the Press today imply that Obama's plans to increase spending AND taxes was somehow irresponsible. It made me LOL.

  • yall think its gonna get uglier in the next few days??b,121as my pop said tonight...they are resorting to this ridiculous, simpleton,divisive bullshit cause "...they got nothing to offer and are out of ideas"

  • onetetonetet 1,753 Posts
    as a point of comparison, here she is interviewing McCain...b,121b, 21http://www.wftv.com/video/17712615/index.html/a1

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121as a point of comparison, here she is interviewing McCain...b,121b, 21http://www.wftv.com/video/17712615/index.html/a1 b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21Yeah, this shit is disgusting. I mean, I don't mind that mediab, 21outlets "lean" left or right in their editorial policies andb,121approaches, to a point. But this shit is just a party machineb,121operating without any pretense of neutrality or integrity.

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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121b, 21As for the socialism thing, frankly, I think it's hilarious. The desperation oozing from the McCain campaign is palpable. b, 21b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21they wouldn't do it if it didn't work. you could pretty much run a donkey and a chimp on the bill and put some fancy pr department behind them and probably get quite a few votes. someone should do that as an experiment.

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    Quote:/font1h,121b,121/font1Quote:/font1h,121b,121b, 21b,121object width="425" height="344"1param name="movie" value=""1/param1param name="allowFullScreen" value="true"1/param1embed src="" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" allowfullscreen="true" width="425" height="344"1/embed1/object1 b,121b, 21h,121
    font class="post"1b,121b, 21 img src="/ubbthreads/images/graemlins/emil.gif" alt="" /1 b,121b, 21h,121font class="post"1b,121b, 21holy shit! giantleech's crowd.

  • PunditPundit 438 Posts
    didn't michael moore already do that with a ficus tree?

  • LaserWolfLaserWolf Portland Oregon 11,518 Posts
    These are the types of questions journalists should be asking and politicians should be answering. b, 21b, 21I just wish that Obama, McCain and Palin were regularly asked equal as hard and loaded questions. b, 21b, 21People are talking about Obama is commie. Journalist should give him the chance to respond. b, 21b, 21Likewise McCain should have to answer questions about being erratic for 4 minutes. "But if you are not erratic, why did you say you were suspending your election, then keep running ads?" and on and on for 4 minutes.
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