Obama Clinton Race Chasm
LaserWolf
Portland Oregon 11,517 Posts
Have people seen this article?http://www.inthesetimes.com/article/3597/the_clinton_firewall/Google the phrase ???Clinton firewall??? and you will come up with an ever-lengthening list of scenarios that Hillary Clinton???s presidential campaign has said will stop Barack Obama???s candidacy. The New Hampshire primary, said her campaign, would be the firewall to end Obamamania. Then Super Tuesday was supposed to be the firewall. Then Texas. Now Pennsylvania and Indiana.For four months, the political world has been hypnotized by this string-along game, not bothering to ask what this Clinton tactic really is. The ???just wait until the next states??? mantra has diverted our attention from the firewall???s grounding in race and democracy. But now, with only a few months until the Democratic National Convention in Denver, the firewall???s true composition is coming into focus. Whether Obama can overcome this barrier will likely decide who becomes the Democrats??? presidential nominee.The Race ChasmSince at least the South Carolina primary, the Clinton campaign???s message has been stripped of its poll-tested nuance and become a rather crass drumbeat aimed at reminding voters that Obama is black. Whether it is former President Clinton likening Obama???s campaign to Jesse Jackson???s; Clinton aides telling the Associated Press that Obama is ???the black candidate,??? or Geraldine Ferraro tapping into anti-affirmative action anger by claiming Obama???s success is a product of his skin color, barely a week goes by without a white Clinton surrogate injecting race into the nominating contest.That is one of the twin pillars of the Clinton firewall???a well-honed strategy aimed at maximizing ???the Race Chasm.??? The Race Chasm may sound like a conventional discussion of the black-white divide, but it is one of the least-discussed geographic, demographic and political dynamics driving the contest between Clinton and Obama. I call it the Race Chasm because of what it looks like on a graph. Here???s how it works.To date, 42 states and the District of Columbia have voted in primaries or caucuses. Factor out the two senators??? home states (Illinois, New York and Arkansas), the two states where Edwards was a major factor (New Hampshire and Iowa) and the one state where only Clinton was on the ballot (Michigan) and you are left with 37 elections where the head-to-head Clinton-Obama matchup has been most clear. Subtract the Latino factor (a hugely important but wholly separate influence on the election) by removing the four states whose Hispanic population is over 25 percent (California, New Mexico, Texas and Arizona), and you are left with 33 elections that best represent how the black-white split has impacted the campaign.As the Race Chasm graph shows, when you chart Obama???s margin of victory or defeat against the percentage of African-Americans living in that state, a striking U trend emerges. That precipitous dip in Obama???s performance in states with a big-but-not-huge African-American population is the Race Chasm???and that chasm is no coincidence.On the left of the graph, among the states with the smallest black population, Obama has destroyed Clinton. With the candidates differing little on issues, this trend is likely due, in part, to the fact that black-white racial politics are all but non-existent in nearly totally white states. Thus, Clinton has fewer built-in advantages. Though some of these states like Idaho or Wyoming have reputations for intolerance thanks to the occasional militia headlines, black-white interaction in these places is not a part of people???s daily lives, nor their political decisions. Put another way, the dialect of racism???the hints of the Ferraro comment and codes of Bill Clinton???s Jesse Jackson reference, for instance???is not politically effective because such language has not historically been a significant part of the local political discussion. That???s especially true in the liberal-skewed Democratic primary.On the right of the graph among the states with the largest black populations, Obama has also crushed Clinton. Unlike the super-white states, these states???many in the Deep South???have a long and sordid history of day-to-day, black-white racial politics, with Richard Nixon famously pioneering Republican???s ???southern strategy??? to maximize the racist segregationist vote in general elections. ???But in the Democratic primary the black vote is so huge [in these states], it can overwhelm the white vote,??? says Thomas Schaller, a political science professor at the University of Maryland???Baltimore. That black vote has gone primarily to Obama, helping him win these states by big margins.It is in the chasm where Clinton has consistently defeated Obama. These are geographically diverse states from Ohio to Oklahoma to Massachusetts where racial politics is very much a part of the political culture, but where the black vote is too small to offset a white vote racially motivated by the Clinton campaign???s coded messages and tactics. The chasm exists in the cluster of states whose population is above 6 percent and below 17 percent black, and Clinton has won most of them by beating Obama handily among white working-class voters.In sum, Obama has only been able to eke out victories in three states with Race Chasm demographics, where African-American populations make up more than 6 percent but less than 17 percent of the total population. And those three states provided him extra advantages: He won Illinois, his home state; Missouri, an Illinois border state; and Connecticut, a state whose Democratic electorate just two years before supported Ned Lamont???s insurgent candidacy against Joe Lieberman, and therefore had uniquely developed infrastructure and political cultures inclined to support an outsider candidacy. Meanwhile, three-quarters of all the states Clinton has won are those with Race Chasm demographics.Pennsylvania Gov. Ed Rendell (D), a Clinton supporter, publicly acknowledged this dynamic in February. He suggested to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette editorial board that Obama???s ethnicity could prevent him from winning the state, which, at 10.6 percent black, falls squarely in the Race Chasm.???You???ve got conservative whites here, and I think there are some whites who are probably not ready to vote for an African-American candidate,??? Rendell said.That was echoed by Obama supporter David K. Levdansky, a state representative from western Pennsylvania. ???For all our wanting to believe that race is less of an issue than ever before, the reality of racism still exists,??? he told the New York Times. ???It???s not that [Pennsylvanians] don???t think he???s qualified, but some people fear that it might be empowering the black community by electing Obama.???Primaries are now looming in a critical group of Race Chasm states???Pennsylvania, Indiana (8.8 percent black), Kentucky (7.5 percent black) and West Virginia (only 3 percent black, but a place influenced by the Ohio, Maryland, Virginia and Pennsylvania media markets, which undoubtedly makes race politics more customary than in other mostly white states).Clinton, knowing the Race Chasm can fortify her firewall, has subsequently intensified her efforts to put race front and center in the campaign, most recently attacking Jeremiah Wright, Obama???s former pastor who has delivered fiery speeches indicting white racism. She is so determined to raise race issues in advance of these Race Chasm contests that she gave an in-person interview to the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review specifically to criticize Wright. For reference, the Tribune-Review is a conservative newspaper in western Pennsylvania owned by the same Richard Mellon Scaife who funded the anti-Clinton witchhuntsof the ???90s.Clearly, each primary and caucus contest has its own unique politics, and race is not the only factor moving votes. Despite the oversimplified punditry that comes with presidential campaigns, demographic groups???white, black or any other???do not vote as monoliths. That said, a phenomenon as stark as the Race Chasm over 33 elections is obviously affecting the campaign???particularly considering the regional and red-blue diversity of each state cluster on the graph.???When the black population is really small, racial polarization is small enough that Obama can win, and when the black population is large, any polarization is drowned out by the overwhelming size of the Democratic black vote,??? says Schaller, who recently authored the book Whistling Past Dixie analyzing demographic voting trends. ???But in the middle range, polarization is sizeable enough that black voters cannot overcome it, and these are the states where she wins.???The SuperdelegatesClinton has two reasons to try to highlight race and maximize the Race Chasm, both related to the second pillar of her firewall: the superdelegates. These are the senators, congress people, governors and party officials who control roughly 40 percent of the Democratic National Convention votes needed to secure the nomination.First and most obvious, she wants to win as many of the remaining states as possible to keep her tally of ???pledged??? delegates (i.e., delegates won in primaries and caucuses) as large as possible. The Politico.com correctly reported in March that ???Clinton has virtually no chance of winning??? the race for pledged delegates. But winning some remaining states and keeping the count close will make it easier for her to argue the race was almost a tie, and thus theoretically easier to convince superdelegates to throw their support to her, even if she loses the popular vote and the pledged delegate count.Clinton, in fact, is already making the argument that she is only narrowly behind. ???We???re separated by, you know, a little more than a hundred delegates,??? she told Time, not bothering to note that a hundred delegates is more than the entire delegate count from major states like Missouri or Wisconsin.Additionally, in trying to maximize the Race Chasm by focusing on race-tinged issues, Clinton is tacitly making an ???electability??? argument to superdelegates. (This is not a stupid strategy in courting officials who are all, in one way or another, election-focused political operatives.) Part of that ???electability??? argument hinges on portraying Obama as ???unelectable??????and what better way to do that than stoke as many race-focused controversies as possible? It is a standard primary tactic: Launch a line of attack???in this case, the ???Wright controversy??????and then claim the attack will be used by Republicans to defeat an opponent???in this case Obama???should he become the general election candidate. Of course, it doesn???t hurt Clinton???s cause that, close to half of the superdelegates are white, according to The Politico.Ruthless, but probably uselessAs ugly as it is, the Clinton firewall strategy is stunning in its ruthlessness. It has been half a century since the major triumphs of the civil rights and party reform movements, yet a major Democratic candidate is attempting to secure a presidential nomination by exploiting racial divides and negotiating backroom superdelegate deals.But success is not likely.Even if Clinton wins big in the remaining Race Chasm states, Obama has advantages in Montana, Oregon, North Carolina and South Dakota???smaller states, to be sure, but likely enough pledged delegates to keep a significant lead. Clinton, therefore, would have a difficult time convincing superdelegates to go against the will of the people in their states.That leaves the ???electability??? argument with the superdelegates???and the problem for Clinton there is that polls show Obama is at least as ???electable??? as Clinton, if not more so.A state-by-state SurveyUSA poll in March found both Obama and Clinton defeating Republican nominee John McCain in a hypothetical general election matchup???and Obama actually getting four more Electoral College votes than Clinton. In Colorado, a key swing state, a March Rasmussen Reports poll found Obama tying McCain, but McCain clobbering Clinton by 14 percentage points. A February Rasmussen poll reported a similar phenomenon in Pennsylvania, with McCain beating Clinton by two points, but Obama beating McCain by 10.And then there is the Pew poll taken immediately after the major wave of media surrounding the Wright controversy. The survey showed both Obama and Clinton defeating McCain, but more significantly, Obama actually performing slightly better among white voters than Clinton???a blow to those Clinton backers hoping that superdelegates may begin to fear a white voter backlash against the Illinois senator.If her turn to more hardball tactics is any indication, Clinton may be trying to preempt the firewall strategy???s failure. In two bold moves at the end of March, her campaign launched a two-pronged initiative to intimidate Democratic leaders and to strongarm pledged delegates who are already committed to Obama through primaries and caucuses.First, the Clinton campaign organized 20 major Democratic Party financiers to release a letter to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi upbraiding her for appearing on ABC News and saying, ???If the votes of the superdelegates overturn what happened in the elections, it would be harmful to the Democratic Party.??? According to the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, the contributors who signed the letter have given a combined $23.6 million to Democrats since 1999. These mega-donors, clearly wielding their financial heft as an implied threat, claimed that Pelosi had taken an ???untenable position??? by merely suggesting superdelegates should avoid overturning the results of democratic primaries and caucuses.At the same time, Clinton told Time that technically, even pledged delegates who are supposed to represent the will of voters are permitted to change their vote at the Democratic National Convention. ???Every delegate with very few exceptions is free to make up his or her mind however they choose,??? she said, introducing the possibility of a new, more brass-knuckled kind of delegate campaign. ???We talk a lot about so-called pledged delegates, but every delegate is expected to exercise independent judgment.???A late March NBC News poll reports that if a candidate ???loses among delegates selected by voters but still wins the nomination,??? a plurality (41 percent) of Democratic voters believe that candidate would be ???not legitimate.??? Many of those surveyed probably remember both the recent episodes of stolen elections, and the past eras of brokered conventions and corrupt, often racist political machines stuffing ballot boxes.The latter, in fact, was precisely how the epithet ???Democrat Party??????as opposed to ???Democratic Party??????was coined. As the language-obsessed William Safire documented 24 years ago in a New York Times column, the term ???Democrat Party??? was created by Republican leaders in the mid-20th century to imply that their opponents???many bigoted segregationists and machine pols???were, in fact, undemocratic.After the Florida and Ohio debacles in the 2000 and 2004 election, Republican lamentations about democracy are, of course, absurd. Additionally, many machines have long ago decayed ??? except for the one inside the Democratic Party itself???the Clinton machine. If that machine???s firewall strategy continues to exploit the Race Chasm and threaten to trample the will of voters, Clinton will be asking the Democratic Party, one that has come to champion racial tolerance and democracy, to truly become the Democrat Party???one that ignores those ideals in favor of a single Democrat.David Sirot
a is a senior editor at In These Times and a bestselling author whose newest book, "The Uprising," will be released in June of 2008. He is a fellow at the Campaign for America's Future and a board member of the Progressive States Network -- both nonpartisan organizations. His blog is at www.credoaction.com/sirota.
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He has a theory why that is.
I thought it was interesting.
this article is garbage. hillary all but ignored the Wright issue, except for stating that if it was her Minister, she would have had either said something to him, or not gone to his church - which is hardly controversial.
amazing how bill clinton went from being "the first black president"...to a race baiter. no doubt that race (and gender) has and will be a part of the road to the white house, but imo, the media took leaps and bounds to cast the clintons in a negative light. very few, if any, of the "controversial" race related comments were made by hillary, and none of the race related comments made by bill were lies, nor has anyone accused him of that. god forbid bill says that, when asked about how race and gender are playing a part in the campaign, bill points out that black voters make up a majority of dems in south carolina, a state twice won by jesse jackson. And that is the most controversial race relates statement of the entire campaign!
please.
Are you really saying that the entire Wright issue wasn't sanctioned by Hillary? That she was not in support of it and kept it going? She was it's prime benificiary and prime mover.
Yes... it is amazing.
Sanctioned by hillary? what does that even mean? she didn't put the videos on youtube, nor does she control the media. John Mccain wrote an editorial on it. Hillary was basically invisible during the controversy, except for some bootleg interview in a local pittsburgh newspaper- where all she said was that Wright would not be her minister.
lets save the hillary hate for something that is even worthy of discussion. get your facts straight.
ok hold up...I'm not a hillary basher, I could really give a fuck about all this mess, but are you really saying you don't think a fuckin POLITICIAN couldn't be behind something like that without having it point directly back to themselves? Why wouldn't she be behind it? I'm sure it was her or McCain, maybe both, but noone else has the motive to release potentially crippling info on a candidate than his rivals. But it's not like THEY do it, someone in their camp does. are you really that naive?
Your girl Hillary didn't mention the Wright issue when it was in full firestorm mode. But, a few weeks later after the "non-issue" sniper fire BS, she sat down with the former Clinton nemisis who runs a PA newspaper and discussed the issue. She was the one who was asked about it, but the timing and her decision to discuss it at that point were suspect.
It is indeed startling and amazing how the Clintons' reputation has been sullied among Democrats.
"I'm not gonna vote for Obama because He doesn't believe in God"
Me :[/b] "What? ....where'd you hear that?"
Her:[/b] "At school"
Me:[/b] "Which one of the kids said that?"
Her:[/b] "it wasn't a kid ...it was Miss **** "
Me:[/b]
Her:[/b] "One of the kids asked Miss **** if she was a republican or a democrat and she said a republican.....so i asked Miss **** who she was going to vote for and she said she didn't know ........then i said i'm going to vote for Obama.....then Miss **** said she wasn't going to vote for Obama because he was a Mu..Mu...Mu..Mus....
Me:[/b] "Muslim ?"
Her:[/b] "YEA ,A MUSLYNN ! .......and that those people don't believe in God"
1.) Obama is a Muslim
2.) Obama is too close to his Christian pastor who helped bring him closer to Jesus
Which one is it?
Actually, she made very calculated statements denouncing Wright for the purpose of smearing Obama by association on multiple occasions. And her statements all came after Obama had already distanced himself as the political game demanded, making her own "position" on the issue all the more ludicrous. "I don't just distance myself from controversial statements by my pastor- I would never belong to a church where controversial statements might be made in the future".
understatement of the century.
I can't tell you how many people have cited Hillary's sneakiness/dirtiness, etc. as reasons not to support her, but who can cite exactly ZERO real examples of this supposed behavior.
yes there's been some politics played. and sure Hillary has done it more and better. she's up against a dude with charisma she cannot hope to match. of course she's gonna do what she has to.
but the pure relish with which the media has embraced this ha-ha-ha-she-thought-she-was-entitled-to-the-presidency-until-young-fresh-faced-Obama-came-along-so-take-that!-Hillary narrative has been over the top.
they are both strong candidates and neither has resorted to anything out of bounds. but the media are lazy and need to cast a good guy and a bad guy so as to avoid nuance.
huh? dude, of course her statement "came after" Obama's: she was responding to his statement.
He said he objects to some of Wright's stuff, and she said fine well why not leave the church then? she took a clear position in order to differentiate herself from her opponent, i.e. "well I would never have belonged to this church in the first place." what's so "ludicrous" about this statement exactly?
What kind of argument is this? There is no evidence linking her to the Wright videos. But you are suggesting the inverse of what is logical, that because we don't know who leaked the videos, we just assume that it was her, simply because she, along with millions of other people, does not want obama to get elected.
I would have a little (or big) talk with the principle.
1) The teacher should not take political sides.
2) The teacher should have her political (and religious) facts straight before opening her trap.
Ur right, but honestly, most teachers are talking about this like other folks at other jobs. Its current events. In a perfect world the teacher stays neutral, but thats not reality.
well, talking this ignorant schitt among colleagues in the teachers lounge is qualitatively different than feeding this BS to the kids. teachers have a job that is somewhat unique in this regard; I don't think your comparison is apt.
It's not a huge deal, but she was quiet when it happened. It started to fade into memory, then Hillary had a pressing need to change the subject from getting shot at to something else. That's when she made some statements. It's not what she said but when she said it.
But hey maybe Mark Penn planned that out for her. He's been doing a terrific job. I am glad Hillary runs such a tight ship, it's a testament to her experience and leadership.
whoa dude, no personal shit here.
Of course she fucked up, but do u actually think there arent THOUSANDS of teachers who think this shit in America and she is some rare case.
*eyeroll*
I love this argument. "she's losing the campaign so how can we trust her to lead the country?!"
And your teachers NEVER said any misinformed bullshit in the classroom?
The Wright story was going to come out. With or without Clinton.
It's too bad this story is seen as just an attack on Clinton. That is not what the story is about. The story is about how the % of Black population effects the race and how that figures into the candidates strategies.
I don't think the point is she is an evil race baiter. I think the point is that she knows in PA the race chasm favors her. Thus she talked to a Pittsburgh paper where she knew her (non-controversial) message would help her with the demographic that favors her in states like PA.
I'd rather talk about the race chasm theory, than whether or not the article anti-Clinton, or if Clinton is evil. I have no doubt that the smart people on both campaigns have looked into these numbers and use them to shape who they talk to and what they say.
oh dude for sure they did. but your point was that people all over the country are discussing this in the workplace. I said fine but when you're a teacher you need to be a little more careful. talk that schitt at the water cooler with other ignoran teachers all you want, but not in front of the kids.
I agree, I wouldn't let that slide.
The teacher should not be fired. That is an over reaction.
As a concerned and involved parent in your child's education you might not want to let it slide. I would mention something to the teacher or principle, even if it is just in passing.
Just my opinion, I don't have children so I really I have no place to comment.
The school shouldn't fire her, but I think she should be suspended and some damage control (ie learning about other religions) would help, too.
I agree. all citizens have a stake in how our public schools our run.
you are defending the right of a teacher to not only talk to a child about religion, but ignorantly and offensively state that obama is a muslim and doesn't believe in god?
come'on. what does it take to get fired? if she had said that she wouldn't vote for obama because he is black (instead of muslim), would it then be okay to fire her?
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True, but as a teacher, she has a moral and ethical responsibility to shut the fuk up and fall back on that shit...or, at the the very least, get her facts straight.