Candi Staton Appreciation

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  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts

    How'd you compare it to her other LP?

    This one seemed to be more "country" than Soul View Now!
    which ultimately makes me prefer that one over this, but I still
    consider this to be an excellent album, her voice is just too good.

    I think her LP on Money/Abet is my favorite of all, though.

    Countdown to Faux_Rillz telling us how good-looking Ms. Swann is:

    10 ... 9 ... 8 ...


  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts

    How'd you compare it to her other LP?

    This one seemed to be more "country" than Soul View Now!
    which ultimately makes me prefer that one over this, but I still
    consider this to be an excellent album, her voice is just too good.

    I think her LP on Money/Abet is my favorite of all, though.

    Countdown to Faux_Rillz telling us how good-looking Ms. Swann is:

    10 ... 9 ... 8 ...


    She is dimetastic on that cover.

  • Speaking of Soul LP Cover Dimepieces, Me and The One Bellcity were marveling over Eloise Laws earlier:




    I have been trying to get a copy of Swann's LP on Money off a collector who I've been buying from for a while, he's still not selling.


  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts
    Speaking of Soul LP Cover Dimepieces, Me and The One Bellcity were marveling over Eloise Laws earlier:




    I have been trying to get a copy of Swann's LP on Money off a collector who I've been buying from for a while, he's still not selling.


    Hell yeah.

    Agree w/ SOI that the Money LP is the best of the three.

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    The Abet press can usually be found for a little cheaper,
    and is generally a better pressing, too, although I say that
    having only seen a thin later Money pressing, don't know if
    there is an earlier, heavier pressing on Money as well.

  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    The Abet press can usually be found for a little cheaper,
    and is generally a better pressing, too, although I say that
    having only seen a thin later Money pressing, don't know if
    there is an earlier, heavier pressing on Money as well.

    Hmmm...I wouldn't consider my Money press of this album thin, but it's still not thick enough to pass the wobble test.


  • Dakota Staton ? Candy Staton ?


  • Dakota Staton ? Candy Staton ?

    Brownsville Staton? Graham Central Staton?

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts

    Dakota Staton ? Candy Staton ?

    Brownsville Staton? Graham Central Staton?

    Don Cherry? Don Cherry? Don Cherry?


  • Dakota Staton ? Candy Staton ?

    Brownsville Staton? Graham Central Staton?

    Candi Stoton? Tiffany Staton ?

  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    I regret selling mine to Drew.

  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    I regret selling mine to Drew.

    You can have it back.

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
    Gotcha...I always get thrown when the same artist releases multiple copies of self-titled albums (see Tim Maia on Polydor for worst case example).

    Well, that was the Brasilian way, back then. See: Os Mutantes, Gilberto Gil, Caetano Veloso, Gal Costa, etc.

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
    I love her first album and am extremely geeked to have a clean one in the shop right now.

    Downside, because her career is so thorough and her later albums so common, this is a popular candidate for the ol' "yo! I used to see this for $2 everywhere!"



    I always thought the S/T was second.

    Now I'm just hella confused.

    According to these folks: http://www.melingo.com/thesoulnet/staton.htm

    ...it goes "I'm Just a Prisoner," "Stand By Your Man," then the self-titled LP. But the tracklisting on that site doesn't match other tracklistings I've seen for her S/T album, plus the years are off by 7!

    JP: Is this the same S/T LP you're talking about?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/CANDI-STATON-SELF-TI...1QQcmdZViewItem

    No, she had a self-titled one on Fame, distributed by UA.

    I have all three right in front of me and can assure you that the order of release I posted above is correct.

    And I'll second that order. The s/t on UA was kind of a compilation, at that. The late Fame label and logo on the cover are giveaways.

    A partial Fame discography (complete until latter-day UA distribution):

    LPs
    Capitol dist:
    Fame 4200: Fame Gang - Solid Gold From Muscle Shoals
    Fame 4201: Candi Staton - I'm Just A Prisoner
    Fame 4202: Candi Staton - Stand By Your Man

    United Artists dist:
    Fame 1800: Candi Staton - s/t
    Fame 1801: Travis Wammack - s/t

    Fame 181: Clarence Carter - 60 Minutes With Clarence Carter


    45s
    VeeJay dist:
    Fame 6400: Jimmy Hughes - I'm Qualified / My Lovin' Time - 1964
    Fame 6401: Jimmy Hughes - Steal Away / Lollypops, Lace And Lipstick
    Fame 6402: Dan Penn - Close To Me / Let Them Talk
    Fame 6403: Jimmy Hughes - Try Me / Lovely Ladies
    Fame 6404: Jimmy Hughes - I'm Getting Better?? / I Want Justice - 1965
    Fame 6405: Spooner (Oldham) and the Spoons - Hey, Do You Wanna Marry / Wish You Didn't Have To Go
    Fame 6406: June Conquest - Almost Persuaded / Party Talk
    Fame 6407: Jimmy Hughes - Goodbye My Lover Goodbye / It Was Nice
    Fame 6408: (not issued)
    Fame 6409: Lonnie Ray (Dan Penn) - Just As I Am / Diamonds
    Fame 6410: Jimmy Hughes - You Really Know How To Hurt A Guy / The Loving Physician

    ATCO dist:
    Fame 1000: Jimmy Hughes - Midnight Affair / When It Comes To Dancing
    Fame 1001: James Barnett - Keep On Talking / Take A Good Look
    Fame 1002: Jimmy Hughes - Everybody Let's Dance / You Might As Well Forget Him - 1966
    Fame 1002: Terry Woodford - Gonna Make You Say Yeah / Hit The Ground
    Fame 1003: Jimmy Hughes - Neighbor Neighbor / It's A Good Thing
    Fame 1004: Terry Woodford - It's His Town / She Wants What She Can't Have
    Fame 1005: The Villagers - Laugh It Off / You're Gonna Lose That Girl
    Fame 1006: Jimmy Hughes - A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues / I Worship The Ground You Walk On
    Fame 1007: Arthur Conley - I Can't Stop (No No No) / In The Same Old Way
    Fame 1008: Art Freeman - Slippin' Around With You / I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind
    Fame 1009: Arthur Conley - Take Me (Just As I Am) / I'm Gonna Forget About You
    Fame 1010: Clarence Carter - Tell Daddy / I Stayed Away Too Long - 1967
    Fame 1011: Jimmy Hughes - Why Not Tonight / I'm A Man Of Action
    Fame 1012: Art Freeman - Everybody's Got To Cry Sometime / A Piece Of My Heart
    Fame 1013: Clarence Carter - Thread The Needle / Don't Make My Baby Cry
    Fame 1014: Jimmy Hughes - Don't Lose Your Good Thing / You Can't Believe Everything You Hear
    Fame 1015: Jimmy Hughes - Hi-Heel Sneakers / Time Will Bring You Back
    Fame 1016: Clarence Carter - The Road Of Love / She Ain't Gonna Do Right

    Capitol dist:
    Fame 1456: Candi Staton - I'd Rather Be An Old Man's Sweetheart (Than A Young Man's Fool) / For You - 1969
    Fame 1457:??George Jackson - Find 'Em, Fool 'Em, And Forget 'Em / My Desires Are Getting The Best Of Me
    Fame 1458: Fame Gang - Grits And Gravy / Soul Feud
    Fame 1459: Candi Staton - Never In Public / You Don't Love Me No More
    Fame 1460: Candi Staton - I'm Just A Prisoner (Of Your Good Lovin') / Heart On A String
    Fame 1461: James Govan - Wanted: Lover (No Experience Necessary) / Jambolyia
    Fame 1462: Tommy Strand - Funky Way To Treat Somebody / Instant Reaction??
    Fame 1463: Candi Staton - Love Machine / Love Me Tonight
    Fame 1464: Johnny Steele - Better Days Are Coming / Steal Away To Nowhere
    Fame 1465: Willie Hightower - You Used Me Baby / Walk A Mile In My Shoes
    Fame 1466: Candi Staton - Sweet Feeling / Evidence - 1970
    Fame 1467: David and the Giants - A Letter To Josephine / Super Good Feeling
    Fame 1468: George Jackson - That's How Much You Mean To Me / I'm Gonna Hold On (To What I Got)
    Fame 1469: Roscoe Robinson - Don't Pretend (Just Be Yourself) / What Color Is Love??
    Fame 1470: Candi Staton - Double Lovin' / I'd Rather Go Blind
    Fame 1471: Fame Gang - Turn My Chicken Loose / Twangin' My Thang
    Fame 1472: Candi Staton - Stand By Your Man / How Can I Put Out The Flame (When You Keep The Fire Burning)
    Fame 1473: James Govan - You Get A Lot To Like / Sometime
    Fame 1474: Willie Hightower - I Can't Love Without You / Time Has Brought A Change
    Fame 1475: Marcel Strong - Mumble In My Ear / What You're Missin' Someone's Gettin'
    Fame 1476: Candi Staton - He Called Me Baby / What Would Become Of Me - 1971
    Fame 1477: Willie Hightower - Back Road Into Town / Poor Man
    Fame 1478: Candi Staton - Mr. And Mrs. Untrue / Too Hurt To Cry
    Fame 1479: Bettye Swann - I Can't Let You Break My Heart / I'm Just Living A Lie
    Fame 1480: Tommy Strand - Am I Groovin' You / I Wanna Testify
    Fame 1481: Sami Jo - Don't Hang No Halos On Me / Get It On

    United Artists dist:
    Fame 91000: Candi Staton - In The Ghetto / Sure As Sin - 1972
    Fame 91001: Travis Wammack - Slip Away / Whatever Turns You On
    Fame 91002: Sunnshine - Niki Hoeky / same
    Fame 91003: Sami Jo - Big Silver Angel / I Think I Love You Again
    Fame 91004: Willard Posey Reunion - Just To Please You / Cissy Strut-N-American Woman
    Fame 91005: Candi Staton - Lovin' You, Lovin' Me / You Don't Love Me No More
    Fame 91006: Clarence Carter - Back In Your Arms Again / Holdin' Out
    Fame 91007: Travis Wammack - So Good / Darling, You're All That I Had
    Fame 91008: Travis Wammack - How Can I Tell You / So Good
    Fame 91009: Candi Staton - Do It In The Name Of Love / The Thanks I Get For Loving You - 1973

    Fame 179: Clarence Carter - Put On Your Shoes And Walk / I've Found Somebody New
    Fame 191: George Soule - I'll Take Care Of You / Baby Please Me
    Fame 250: Clarence Carter - 60 Minute Man / Mother In Law
    Fame 256: Candi Staton - Something's Burning / It's Not Love (But It's Not Bad)
    Fame 328: Candi Staton - Love Chain / I'm Gonna Hold On (To What I Got This Time)
    Fame 329: Tunnie Smith - Do That To Me / Finders Aren't Always Keepers
    Fame 330: Clarence Carter - I'm The Midnight Special / I've Got Another Woman

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts

    Here's a handy rule of thumb: if a record by your fave old-school soul act came out after '75, chances are it's gonna be a disco record.

    I don't blame you, I have a cutoff switch for disco too. I'll ride for Candi Staton as well, but that gutless "Young Hearts Run Free" mess has got to go. Fame Studios forever!

    Diss disco and you diss yourself!

    I'm on Pickwick's side with this one. In my opinion, Candi Staton had one of the top three soul voices ever. It's a shame to see her changing her game and ditching Muscle Shoals when she switches to WB.

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    I love her first album and am extremely geeked to have a clean one in the shop right now.

    Downside, because her career is so thorough and her later albums so common, this is a popular candidate for the ol' "yo! I used to see this for $2 everywhere!"



    I always thought the S/T was second.

    Now I'm just hella confused.

    According to these folks: http://www.melingo.com/thesoulnet/staton.htm

    ...it goes "I'm Just a Prisoner," "Stand By Your Man," then the self-titled LP. But the tracklisting on that site doesn't match other tracklistings I've seen for her S/T album, plus the years are off by 7!

    JP: Is this the same S/T LP you're talking about?

    http://cgi.ebay.com/CANDI-STATON-SELF-TI...1QQcmdZViewItem

    No, she had a self-titled one on Fame, distributed by UA.

    I have all three right in front of me and can assure you that the order of release I posted above is correct.

    And I'll second that order. The s/t on UA was kind of a compilation, at that. The late Fame label and logo on the cover are giveaways.

    A partial Fame discography (complete until latter-day UA distribution):

    LPs
    Capitol dist:
    Fame 4200: Fame Gang - Solid Gold From Muscle Shoals
    Fame 4201: Candi Staton - I'm Just A Prisoner
    Fame 4202: Candi Staton - Stand By Your Man

    United Artists dist:
    Fame 1800: Candi Staton - s/t
    Fame 1801: Travis Wammack - s/t

    Fame 181: Clarence Carter - 60 Minutes With Clarence Carter


    45s
    VeeJay dist:
    Fame 6400: Jimmy Hughes - I'm Qualified / My Lovin' Time - 1964
    Fame 6401: Jimmy Hughes - Steal Away / Lollypops, Lace And Lipstick
    Fame 6402: Dan Penn - Close To Me / Let Them Talk
    Fame 6403: Jimmy Hughes - Try Me / Lovely Ladies
    Fame 6404: Jimmy Hughes - I'm Getting Better?? / I Want Justice - 1965
    Fame 6405: Spooner (Oldham) and the Spoons - Hey, Do You Wanna Marry / Wish You Didn't Have To Go
    Fame 6406: June Conquest - Almost Persuaded / Party Talk
    Fame 6407: Jimmy Hughes - Goodbye My Lover Goodbye / It Was Nice
    Fame 6408: (not issued)
    Fame 6409: Lonnie Ray (Dan Penn) - Just As I Am / Diamonds
    Fame 6410: Jimmy Hughes - You Really Know How To Hurt A Guy / The Loving Physician

    ATCO dist:
    Fame 1000: Jimmy Hughes - Midnight Affair / When It Comes To Dancing
    Fame 1001: James Barnett - Keep On Talking / Take A Good Look
    Fame 1002: Jimmy Hughes - Everybody Let's Dance / You Might As Well Forget Him - 1966
    Fame 1002: Terry Woodford - Gonna Make You Say Yeah / Hit The Ground
    Fame 1003: Jimmy Hughes - Neighbor Neighbor / It's A Good Thing
    Fame 1004: Terry Woodford - It's His Town / She Wants What She Can't Have
    Fame 1005: The Villagers - Laugh It Off / You're Gonna Lose That Girl
    Fame 1006: Jimmy Hughes - A Shot Of Rhythm And Blues / I Worship The Ground You Walk On
    Fame 1007: Arthur Conley - I Can't Stop (No No No) / In The Same Old Way
    Fame 1008: Art Freeman - Slippin' Around With You / I Can't Get You Out Of My Mind
    Fame 1009: Arthur Conley - Take Me (Just As I Am) / I'm Gonna Forget About You
    Fame 1010: Clarence Carter - Tell Daddy / I Stayed Away Too Long - 1967
    Fame 1011: Jimmy Hughes - Why Not Tonight / I'm A Man Of Action
    Fame 1012: Art Freeman - Everybody's Got To Cry Sometime / A Piece Of My Heart
    Fame 1013: Clarence Carter - Thread The Needle / Don't Make My Baby Cry
    Fame 1014: Jimmy Hughes - Don't Lose Your Good Thing / You Can't Believe Everything You Hear
    Fame 1015: Jimmy Hughes - Hi-Heel Sneakers / Time Will Bring You Back
    Fame 1016: Clarence Carter - The Road Of Love / She Ain't Gonna Do Right

    Capitol dist:
    Fame 1456: Candi Staton - I'd Rather Be An Old Man's Sweetheart (Than A Young Man's Fool) / For You - 1969
    Fame 1457:??George Jackson - Find 'Em, Fool 'Em, And Forget 'Em / My Desires Are Getting The Best Of Me
    Fame 1458: Fame Gang - Grits And Gravy / Soul Feud
    Fame 1459: Candi Staton - Never In Public / You Don't Love Me No More
    Fame 1460: Candi Staton - I'm Just A Prisoner (Of Your Good Lovin') / Heart On A String
    Fame 1461: James Govan - Wanted: Lover (No Experience Necessary) / Jambolyia
    Fame 1462: Tommy Strand - Funky Way To Treat Somebody / Instant Reaction??
    Fame 1463: Candi Staton - Love Machine / Love Me Tonight
    Fame 1464: Johnny Steele - Better Days Are Coming / Steal Away To Nowhere
    Fame 1465: Willie Hightower - You Used Me Baby / Walk A Mile In My Shoes
    Fame 1466: Candi Staton - Sweet Feeling / Evidence - 1970
    Fame 1467: David and the Giants - A Letter To Josephine / Super Good Feeling
    Fame 1468: George Jackson - That's How Much You Mean To Me / I'm Gonna Hold On (To What I Got)
    Fame 1469: Roscoe Robinson - Don't Pretend (Just Be Yourself) / What Color Is Love??
    Fame 1470: Candi Staton - Double Lovin' / I'd Rather Go Blind
    Fame 1471: Fame Gang - Turn My Chicken Loose / Twangin' My Thang
    Fame 1472: Candi Staton - Stand By Your Man / How Can I Put Out The Flame (When You Keep The Fire Burning)
    Fame 1473: James Govan - You Get A Lot To Like / Sometime
    Fame 1474: Willie Hightower - I Can't Love Without You / Time Has Brought A Change
    Fame 1475: Marcel Strong - Mumble In My Ear / What You're Missin' Someone's Gettin'
    Fame 1476: Candi Staton - He Called Me Baby / What Would Become Of Me - 1971
    Fame 1477: Willie Hightower - Back Road Into Town / Poor Man
    Fame 1478: Candi Staton - Mr. And Mrs. Untrue / Too Hurt To Cry
    Fame 1479: Bettye Swann - I Can't Let You Break My Heart / I'm Just Living A Lie
    Fame 1480: Tommy Strand - Am I Groovin' You / I Wanna Testify
    Fame 1481: Sami Jo - Don't Hang No Halos On Me / Get It On

    United Artists dist:
    Fame 91000: Candi Staton - In The Ghetto / Sure As Sin - 1972
    Fame 91001: Travis Wammack - Slip Away / Whatever Turns You On
    Fame 91002: Sunnshine - Niki Hoeky / same
    Fame 91003: Sami Jo - Big Silver Angel / I Think I Love You Again
    Fame 91004: Willard Posey Reunion - Just To Please You / Cissy Strut-N-American Woman
    Fame 91005: Candi Staton - Lovin' You, Lovin' Me / You Don't Love Me No More
    Fame 91006: Clarence Carter - Back In Your Arms Again / Holdin' Out
    Fame 91007: Travis Wammack - So Good / Darling, You're All That I Had
    Fame 91008: Travis Wammack - How Can I Tell You / So Good
    Fame 91009: Candi Staton - Do It In The Name Of Love / The Thanks I Get For Loving You - 1973

    Fame 179: Clarence Carter - Put On Your Shoes And Walk / I've Found Somebody New
    Fame 191: George Soule - I'll Take Care Of You / Baby Please Me
    Fame 250: Clarence Carter - 60 Minute Man / Mother In Law
    Fame 256: Candi Staton - Something's Burning / It's Not Love (But It's Not Bad)
    Fame 328: Candi Staton - Love Chain / I'm Gonna Hold On (To What I Got This Time)
    Fame 329: Tunnie Smith - Do That To Me / Finders Aren't Always Keepers
    Fame 330: Clarence Carter - I'm The Midnight Special / I've Got Another Woman

    no Odia Coates?

    1975 LP with Rick Hall production

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts

    Fame 4200: Fame Gang - Solid Gold From Muscle Shoals

    I have a 45 from this LP that is pretty sick.

    Anyone who has the LP care to drop a review?

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts

    Fame 4200: Fame Gang - Solid Gold From Muscle Shoals

    I have a 45 from this LP that is pretty sick.

    Anyone who has the LP care to drop a review?

    boring. I got one in my trade crates if you'd really like to get at one

  • faux_rillzfaux_rillz 14,343 Posts

    Fame 4200: Fame Gang - Solid Gold From Muscle Shoals

    I have a 45 from this LP that is pretty sick.

    Anyone who has the LP care to drop a review?

    Tepid at best.

    Perhaps your 45 is a non-album cut?

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts

    Fame 4200: Fame Gang - Solid Gold From Muscle Shoals

    I have a 45 from this LP that is pretty sick.

    Anyone who has the LP care to drop a review?

    Tepid at best.

    Perhaps your 45 is a non-album cut?

    Yes to Faux's opinion. The album is stunningly anemic considering the potential.

    And yes, the non-album 45 by the Fame Gang is pretty good:

    Fame 1458: Fame Gang - Grits And Gravy / Soul Feud

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts


    Yes to Faux's opinion. The album is stunningly anemic considering the potential.

    And yes, the non-album 45 by the Fame Gang is pretty good:

    Fame 1458: Fame Gang - Grits And Gravy / Soul Feud

    ... and that's the one I have.

    VINDICATED[/b]

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts

    Fame 4200: Fame Gang - Solid Gold From Muscle Shoals

    I have a 45 from this LP that is pretty sick.

    Anyone who has the LP care to drop a review?

    Tepid at best.

    Perhaps your 45 is a non-album cut?

    Yes to Faux's opinion. The album is stunningly anemic considering the potential.

    And yes, the non-album 45 by the Fame Gang is pretty good:

    Fame 1458: Fame Gang - Grits And Gravy / Soul Feud

    The LP is not nearly as good as the 2 singles. Cop those and pick up the album for under $5 only.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts


    The LP is not nearly as good as the 2 singles. Cop those and pick up the album for under $5 only.

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts
    no Odia Coates?
    1975 LP with Rick Hall production

    A partial Fame discography (complete until latter-day UA distribution)[/b]

  • luckluck 4,077 Posts


    The LP is not nearly as good as the 2 singles. Cop those and pick up the album for under $5 only.

    Fair enough. I'm speaking from the completist's perspective.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts


    The LP is not nearly as good as the 2 singles. Cop those and pick up the album for under $5 only.

    Fair enough. I'm speaking from the completist's perspective.

    Wait - you're collecting everything on Fame?

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    no Odia Coates?
    1975 LP with Rick Hall production

    A partial Fame discography (complete until latter-day UA distribution)[/b]

    Doh!

    Fame 1801: Travis Wammack - s/t

    Fame 181: Clarence Carter - 60 Minutes With Clarence Carter

    I have never picked up that Clarence Carter, how is it?

    and I don't think I've even heard of the Travis Wammack, anyone got a review?

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    I ride for that Travis Wammack LP.

    Not gonna be everyone's thing, but about
    as soulful as a southern rock LP can get.
    Charged-up cover of "Funk #49" and a surprisingly
    good version of the FAME standard "You Better Move On."

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    ... and the Clarence Carter is good, I think he has
    a couple more on Fame from the early 70's, maybe they
    come post-UA distro? The CC albums are on some grown &
    sexy bluesy soul tip. I think maybe the ones after this
    are on ABC but recorded at FAME, like this one:



    From 1974, which is quite good, with the soul epic "On Your Way Down"

  • GuzzoGuzzo 8,611 Posts
    ... and the Clarence Carter is good, I think he has
    a couple more on Fame from the early 70's, maybe they
    come post-UA distro? The CC albums are on some grown &
    sexy bluesy soul tip. I think maybe the ones after this
    are on ABC but recorded at FAME, like this one:



    From 1974, which is quite good, with the soul epic "On Your Way Down"[/b]

    ABSO-Frickin'-LUTELY!!!

    I think I love this track more than any other Clarence Carter song.
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