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  • nzshadownzshadow 5,526 Posts
    I like Deep Blue Sea

    When i was courting my wife, i took her to the bar i was working at, we did 5 shots of my bosses special: kahlua, melon liquor, tequila (layered, in that order) and then went to see deep blue sea.

    from what i remember, that movie was fuckin great.

    Ohhh yes, i am a classy guy.

    sorry ladies, im taken.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Deep Blue Sea = best Samuel Jackson self-parody ever


  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    Did anyone else see The Swarm, another b-movie about tampering with nature/playing God, about a swarm of killer bees, the worst movie I've eever seen...

    I saw that in the movies dude. Michael Caine steez.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Ouch, Dargis rips the film a new one.

    Small note: Dargis goes after the film, right or wrong, for having a bunch of LA-based writers, directors and producers exploit 9/11 imagery...but Dargis, far as I know, has always lived in LA too, even if she is the co-head of the NY Times' movie section.

  • verb606verb606 2,518 Posts
    I like Deep Blue Sea

    When i was courting my wife, i took her to the bar i was working at, we did 5 shots of my bosses special: kahlua, melon liquor, tequila (layered, in that order) and then went to see deep blue sea.

    from what i remember, that movie was fuckin great.

    Ohhh yes, i am a classy guy.

    sorry ladies, im taken.


    That's funny. When I was courting my wife, our first official date was at a small bar that I was hoping would have some chill downtempo grooves playing, but instead it was dead as shit (it was a Sunday night) and the staff were all sitting around watching Deep Blue Sea. Not the greatest backdrop for a date, but we're married now, so it's all good.

  • "my head is like a shark's fin!"

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    Apart from the fact that you kind of want to see all the humans dead, I thought this was pretty good as a horror/monster film though all the blatant 9/11 imagery (for what purpose?) gets the

  • thropethrope 750 Posts
    pretty much agree with you 100%. better than i thought it would be. even with very douchey main characters making retarded decisions the whole time, and only like 10 minutes of monster time on screen. i still liked it. (but yes the 9-11 home video'ish imagery was very *cringe*)

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    pretty much agree with you 100%. better than i thought it would be. even with very douchey main characters making retarded decisions the whole time, and only like 10 minutes of monster time on screen. i still liked it. (but yes the 9-11 home video'ish imagery was very *cringe*)

    As a monster/horror film - I thought it worked well in terms of creating an atmosphere of dread and fear and I liked how they rendered the monster. Overall, the film "worked" for me though I thought a lot of the critical hate-fest (see NY Times or Salon or Slate) were dead-on in their criticisms.

    BTW: they had a preview for the new Star Trek film before "Cloverfield." Pity I wasn't in a crowd with a bunch of Trekkie geeks. Shit would have been awesome.

  • yuichiyuichi Urban sprawl 11,332 Posts
    I like Deep Blue Sea


    Did anyone else see The Swarm, another b-movie about tampering with nature/playing God, about a swarm of killer bees, the worst movie I've eever seen...

    haha. This movie was great!

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    For anyone who is going to go see the film:

    During the last scene, pay special attention and tell me if you see anything out of the ordinary.

    And also, stay until the end of the credits.

  • dayday 9,611 Posts
    For anyone who is going to go see the film:

    During the last scene, pay special attention and tell me if you see anything out of the ordinary.

    And also, stay until the end of the credits.

    Saw it tonight and actually stayed until the end credits (I was hoping there'd be some kind of payoff after the 6 month jerk off with no happy ending). I heard something but I was talking to my wife and didn't quite catch it. What are you referring to in the last scene?

    Personally, I think they should have shown the video and then had some kind of explanation about what happened or how the monster came to be. That and the shitty acting are what ruined the movie for me. I still give it a 3.5 out of 5. That helicopter scene made me feel like I was really there. Any movie that can make you feel something gets points from me.

    All in all it wasn't bad. I'd say a little above average overall.

  • dollar_bindollar_bin I heartily endorse this product and/or event 2,326 Posts


    All in all it wasn't bad. I'd say a little above average overall.



    My told my wife I thought it was slightly better than Independence Day, but only slightly. There was enough Monster Mayhem??? to allow me to choose to overlook the things that are annoying. I would have liked more Monster Mayhem??? but then again if I had my way the movie would be nothing but Monster Mayhem???.

  • Monster Mayhem???





  • imdb.com:

    The title "Cloverfield"; initially just a codename for the movie, is named for the boulevard in Santa Monica where the Bad Robot offices were located during the making of the film.

    What a lame reason for a movie title.

    How dare you test the genius of such men as the writer of "Angel" and "Buffy" the TV series;

    Whoah! Television writers don't come much better than Joss Whedon. Guy has some kind of genius...

  • I agree that the concepts of Monsters in NYC and realistic first person camera terror are played out.

    But combining the 2 is still intriguing to me, and I like monster movies.



    Soooooooo......I enjoyed it and it was exactly what I hoped for.
    Seems like the consensus is that the movie worked.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    SPOILER ALERT SPOILER ALERT


































    The last scene in the movie, which takes place at Coney Island a MONTH before all the shit goes down...supposedly, if you look at where Rob is shooting out onto the ocean, you can see an object come down and splash into the sea. It happens very quickly and apparently toward the beginning of the scene so it's easy to miss.

    From what I've been reading, this is NOT the monster splashing down but rather, a satellite which, in theory, was responsible for "waking" the monster. JJ has said in interviews that the monster is not extra-terrestrial but rather, something that was newly "born" into the world. Yeah folks - the monster is a toddler (which makes you wonder what the adult version looks like. Yikes).

    In any case, at the very end of the credits, there's a garbled message which, if played backwards, says, "It's still alive." I SMELL SEQUEL!!!

    After having the weekend to mull it over, I have to say: I really did enjoy the film even though - as noted before - I thought all the criticisms of it were dead on in terms of 1) the casting being wack, 2) the acting being wack, 3) too much quesy-cam, blah blah blah.

    I also thought the scene where you get a close-up of the monster (before Hud gets killed) was unnecessary and actually detracted. The monster was experienced better from either a distance (since you got a sense of its insane scale) or in bits and flashes. But overall, I actually felt that tingle of "holy shit, what is that?!" throughout the film which meant, despite its other flaws, the movie managed to get me to suspend my disbelief in those moments.

    I didn't mind that they didn't "explain" the monster. I don't need an origin story. I would, however, like to know what happens next after they carpetbomb Manhattan and that thing is still

  • Cloverfield is the shit. Most fun I've had in the theater since "The Devil's Rejects". See it in the theater.

  • JustAliceJustAlice 1,308 Posts
    I SMELL SEQUEL!!!



    Also the Girl in the helicopter possibly escapes??
    Sequel was my first thought after what happened right after that.

    We stayed till the end, but I couldn't hear what he said.

    Over all I thought it was pretty cool. They warned us that the movie was causing motion sickness for some people. I thought that was pretty funny, but kind of true.
    Though the beers and bowls didn't help with that.

    I really liked the inside the tilted skyscraper scenes for my own crazy dream related weirdness.

    Stepping in to the triage center at the department store was a huge stretch even considering the content of the entire movie...everything else seemed somewhat possible...you know aside from the gigantic monster...but what were the chances that one would just happen upon a mobile ER / Army HQ at any random subway station mall stop off?

  • I'd forgotten that game completely. The good old days of pre porn computing.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I don't think a sequel would necessarily involve any the characters from the first film. The director hinted - and this seemed more speculative than anything else - that there could have been MANY tapes from that evening, any of which could be turned into a sequel. My guess - and this is just a guess - is that any sequel would probably included more explanation of the monster's origins. Which I suspect will be kind of lame.

    BTW, WTF was up with the looting scene? That bugged me since it's pretty much the only Black people you see in the whole movie and moreover, I thought there was little to no looting during 9/11 or the Blackout from a few years ago. But a giant monster attacks Manhattan and people's first thought is, "yo, I need a new 19" television"?

    I call bulllllllllshit.

    And yeah, the titled skyscraper was cool, visually.
    I SMELL SEQUEL!!!



    Also the Girl in the helicopter possibly escapes??
    Sequel was my first thought after what happened right after that.

    We stayed till the end, but I couldn't hear what he said.

    Over all I thought it was pretty cool. They warned us that the movie was causing motion sickness for some people. I thought that was pretty funny, but kind of true.
    Though the beers and bowls didn't help with that.

    I really liked the inside the tilted skyscraper scenes for my own crazy dream related weirdness.

    Stepping in to the triage center at the department store was a huge stretch even considering the content of the entire movie...everything else seemed somewhat possible...you know aside from the gigantic monster...but what were the chances that one would just happen upon a mobile ER / Army HQ at any random subway station mall stop off?

  • white_teawhite_tea 3,262 Posts
    I haven't seen this film but I can only hope they turn it into a trilogy (maybe more).

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    I haven't seen this film but I can only hope they turn it into a trilogy (maybe more).



  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts
    I don't think a sequel would necessarily involve any the characters from the first film. The director hinted - and this seemed more speculative than anything else - that there could have been MANY tapes from that evening, any of which could be turned into a sequel. My guess - and this is just a guess - is that any sequel would probably included more explanation of the monster's origins. Which I suspect will be kind of lame.


  • dayday 9,611 Posts


    BTW, WTF was up with the looting scene? That bugged me since it's pretty much the only Black people you see in the whole movie and moreover, I thought there was little to no looting during 9/11 or the Blackout from a few years ago. But a giant monster attacks Manhattan and people's first thought is, "yo, I need a new 19" television"?

    I call bulllllllllshit.


    I took my pops to see this yesterday and some things were made clearer and some had more of an impact (the 9/11-eqsue scene in particular) the second time around.

    But to address your point, Rob's phone died and he needed batteries and as luck would have it, an electronics store is being broken into at the exact same moment
    It was also a way to show the news with footage of the monster in the city and let the newscaster introduce the parasites into the story.

    It's still all bullshit though.


    One more thing about a sequel, if it's just footage from another vantage point wouldn't it essentially be the same movie? I think they should dead it and wrap things up how they started it: online.

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts



    Also the Girl in the helicopter possibly escapes??

    I don't really see a sequel revolving around the survivors from the first film. There's no instant storyline to sell, especially with characters so blandly uninteresting that dying is about as compelling as they get.

  • JustAliceJustAlice 1,308 Posts



    Also the Girl in the helicopter possibly escapes??

    I don't really see a sequel revolving around the survivors from the first film. There's no instant storyline to sell, especially with characters so blandly uninteresting that dying is about as compelling as they get.


    I agree with you on this. The characters reminded me of Joeys that come into the bar every weekend, I wasn't feeling sorry for them at all. I don't really see a sequel revolving around the possible survivors either, but my theory was simply that because maybe there were survivors (Maybe???) there would be a sequel.

    When something lives on, walks away or escapes that usually equals sequel to me. The monster won the battle, shit is not over. Jurassic Park was a good example of being able to visualize continuation beyond the film through the subtle clues and obvious ones. Either way, there was definitely more than one road to C2.

  • batmonbatmon 27,574 Posts

  • mannybolonemannybolone Los Angeles, CA 15,025 Posts
    my theory was simply that because maybe there were survivors (Maybe???) there would be a sequel.
    .

    $50,000,000 earned in just two weeks = "will be a sequel."

    The brilliant part about the film is that, by using the handheld gimmick, you could generate a sequel just based on someone else's footage without ever having to involve the characters from the first film.

  • DjArcadianDjArcadian 3,633 Posts


    I started re-reading this (thanks HAZ!) last night to prepare for the film. Will there be a Carrie/Girl Wonder in the movie?

    Have you read the new Frank Miller/Jim Lee Batman comic book? I haven't read a comic book in years but I was tempted enough to pick this up. Read about 3 issues. Total trash. Both of them were phoning it in.
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