OK, how much is she paying you? LOL. Why would the guy say he wasn't going to talk about what Obama was doing back then if he was referring to something as utterly non-controversial and praiseworthy as being a community organizer?
who cares? either he criticized obama for making up a fabricated racial issue....and then dropped a subtle dig on obama that intentionally related to his drug use....OR....he did the exact same thing, but unintentionally gave obama a dig that people have interpreted to relate to his drug use.
Well, you could somewhat respect the guy if he just came out and said, yeah, I was talking about his drug use. To make up this transparently false cover story just makes him seem like a slimy little shill.
honestly I'm not defending dude because I don't know who he is, BUT it's not a totally unbelievable explanation. Obama's book is largely about his experiences as a community organizer in Chicago (or so I hear). Dude is making it seem like Obama was making pissant moves going door-to-door on some bush league shit while Hillary was already making power moves in DC. it's a lame thing to say about him because, well, what he was doing was important. and he's younger and less experienced so of course he wasn't making the same moves Hillary was at that point in his life. it's actually a totally, utterly ridiculous attempt to dis Obama.
but its nonetheless at least a probable explanation for his remark. he wasn't necessarily referring to the drug use.
OK, how much is she paying you? LOL. Why would the guy say he wasn't going to talk about what Obama was doing back then if he was referring to something as utterly non-controversial and praiseworthy as being a community organizer?
who cares? either he criticized obama for making up a fabricated racial issue....and then dropped a subtle dig on obama that intentionally related to his drug use....OR....he did the exact same thing, but unintentionally gave obama a dig that people have interpreted to relate to his drug use.
Well, you could somewhat respect the guy if he just came out and said, yeah, I was talking about his drug use. To make up this transparently false cover story just makes him seem like a slimy little shill.
Right. Keep in mind: we're talking about the man who founded the "Blaxploitation as Entertainment" Network. The "slimy" and "shill" quotients have been ascertained.
And anyone who swallows the fetid tripe that Mr. Johnson WASN'T referencing Obama's drug use needs to sober up and return to the text that needs no context. That is easily the worst coverup since "macaca."
This has little to do with the Clintons, at this point.
And anyone who swallows the fetid tripe that Mr. Johnson WASN'T referencing Obama's drug use needs to sober up and return to the text that needs no context. That is easily the worst coverup since "macaca."
This has little to do with the Clintons, at this point.
this has nothing to do with the clintons. he's not a spokesperson and the only reason its getting any publicity at all is because Johnson is Black. and what if he was referencing Obama's drug use? he didn't say that invalidates him as a candidate and he didn't preach about the evils of drug use, if taken as a drug reference it still couldn't even be taken literally. hillary was helping the community while obama was getting high on coke? come on. even if he was referencing obama's drug use, it was tongue in cheek.
And anyone who swallows the fetid tripe that Mr. Johnson WASN'T referencing Obama's drug use needs to sober up and return to the text that needs no context. That is easily the worst coverup since "macaca."
This has little to do with the Clintons, at this point.
this has nothing to do with the clintons. he's not a spokesperson and the only reason its getting any publicity at all is because Johnson is Black. and what if he was referencing Obama's drug use? he didn't say that invalidates him as a candidate and he didn't preach about the evils of drug use, if taken as a drug reference it still couldn't even be taken literally. hillary was helping the community while obama was getting high on coke? come on. even if he was referencing obama's drug use, it was tongue in cheek. [/b]
DUDE: You are Jim Jonesing up in this bitch. is right.
This is politics. Maybe you need to come to Chicago and breathe the air that quadrennially resurrects corpses so they can vote for Daley.
And anyone who swallows the fetid tripe that Mr. Johnson WASN'T referencing Obama's drug use needs to sober up and return to the text that needs no context. That is easily the worst coverup since "macaca."
This has little to do with the Clintons, at this point.
this has nothing to do with the clintons. he's not a spokesperson and the only reason its getting any publicity at all is because Johnson is Black. and what if he was referencing Obama's drug use? he didn't say that invalidates him as a candidate and he didn't preach about the evils of drug use, if taken as a drug reference it still couldn't even be taken literally. hillary was helping the community while obama was getting high on coke? come on. even if he was referencing obama's drug use, it was tongue in cheek. [/b]
DUDE: You are Jim Jonesing up in this bitch. is right.
This is politics. Maybe you need to come to Chicago and breathe the air that quadrennially resurrects corpses so they can vote for Daley.
I'm not crying. I'm laughing at you.
DUDE: You're talking about "the worst coverup since macaca"....about a non-politician who, in the worst possible scenario, inferred that obama did something he admitted to.
you think clinton scripted his comments???? give her some credit. thats the kool aid i'm drinking? please.
bill got more % of black votes than any candidate in history...but the clintons must be racist and any successful black guy who supports hillary must have some hidden agenda, right?
Clinton's campaign has been subtly bringing up the drug issue for MONTHS now.
Read the quote: "I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book"
If that isn't reference to some sort of illicit activity...
Clinton is painting herself as an innocent bystander. And like Gus in The Wire says, "there ain't many of those anymore." It's total bullshit.
Her new tactic is to paint Obama as a "divider". It's all over the papers today. If she pulls this off it will be truly one of the great passive-aggressive, slimeball washington politricks of my lifetime. It'll be up there with Willie Horton and the Swiftboat ads.
The Clinton machine knows EXACTLY what they're doing, trust that... isn't that your argument for voting for them???
Clinton's campaign has been subtly bringing up the drug issue for MONTHS now.
Read the quote: "I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book"
If that isn't reference to some sort of illicit activity...
Clinton is painting herself as an innocent bystander. And like Gus in The Wire says, "there ain't many of those anymore." It's total bullshit.
Her new tact is to paint Obama as a "divider". It's all over the papers today. If she pulls this off it will be truly one of the great passive-aggressive, slimeball washington politricks of my lifetime. It'll be up there with Willie Horton and the Swiftboat ads.
The Clinton machine knows EXACTLY what they're doing, trust that... isn't that your argument for voting for them???
Here's what kills me......
Politics by definition in 2007 are sleazy and the Clinton's are at the head of the class.
While I'm not gonna sit here and ask anyone to believe the conspiracy theory BS about how many people the Clinton's have had killed, I will tell you a simple trick they use that should be recognized.
The "campaign"(not Bill & Hillary per se)claim that there is some dark secret out there about Obama and they anonymously "leak" this to a reporter(Novack)who is recognized by everyone as a conservative.
Novack, like any foaming at the mouth political reporter, rushes the story to press and when it hit's the Clinton's distance themselves while saying "He's a plant for the Republican's, what do you expect".
And the left eats that shit up while pointing at Novack and claiming he's an evil conservative out to hurt the Clintons.
The result is..
1) There is this black cloud of doubt painted above Obama's head.
2) Novack is made out to be a bad guy when he is just an overzealous reporter wanting to break the most outrageous story possible.
3) The Clinton's walk away smelling like a rose, blaming the evil conservatives for everything.
Clinton's campaign has been subtly bringing up the drug issue for MONTHS now.
Read the quote: "I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book"
If that isn't reference to some sort of illicit activity...
Clinton is painting herself as an innocent bystander. And like Gus in The Wire says, "there ain't many of those anymore." It's total bullshit.
Her new tact is to paint Obama as a "divider". It's all over the papers today. If she pulls this off it will be truly one of the great passive-aggressive, slimeball washington politricks of my lifetime. It'll be up there with Willie Horton and the Swiftboat ads.
The Clinton machine knows EXACTLY what they're doing, trust that... isn't that your argument for voting for them???
Here's what kills me......
Politics by definition in 2007 are sleazy and the Clinton's are at the head of the class.
While I'm not gonna sit here and ask anyone to believe the conspiracy theory BS about how many people the Clinton's have had killed, I will tell you a simple trick they use that should be recognized.
The "campaign"(not Bill & Hillary per se)claim that there is some dark secret out there about Obama and they anonymously "leak" this to a reporter(Novack)who is recognized by everyone as a conservative.
Novack, like any foaming at the mouth political reporter, rushes the story to press and when it hit's the Clinton's distance themselves while saying "He's a plant for the Republican's, what do you expect".
And the left eats that shit up while pointing at Novack and claiming he's an evil conservative out to hurt the Clintons.
The result is..
1) There is this black cloud of doubt painted above Obama's head.
2) Novack is made out to be a bad guy when he is just an overzealous reporter wanting to break the most outrageous story possible.
3) The Clinton's walk away smelling like a rose, blaming the evil conservatives for everything.
Clinton's campaign has been subtly bringing up the drug issue for MONTHS now.
Read the quote: "I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book"
If that isn't reference to some sort of illicit activity...
Clinton is painting herself as an innocent bystander. And like Gus in The Wire says, "there ain't many of those anymore." It's total bullshit.
Her new tact is to paint Obama as a "divider". It's all over the papers today. If she pulls this off it will be truly one of the great passive-aggressive, slimeball washington politricks of my lifetime. It'll be up there with Willie Horton and the Swiftboat ads.
The Clinton machine knows EXACTLY what they're doing, trust that... isn't that your argument for voting for them???
Here's what kills me......
Politics by definition in 2007 are sleazy and the Clinton's are at the head of the class.
While I'm not gonna sit here and ask anyone to believe the conspiracy theory BS about how many people the Clinton's have had killed, I will tell you a simple trick they use that should be recognized.
The "campaign"(not Bill & Hillary per se)claim that there is some dark secret out there about Obama and they anonymously "leak" this to a reporter(Novack)who is recognized by everyone as a conservative.
Novack, like any foaming at the mouth political reporter, rushes the story to press and when it hit's the Clinton's distance themselves while saying "He's a plant for the Republican's, what do you expect".
And the left eats that shit up while pointing at Novack and claiming he's an evil conservative out to hurt the Clintons.
The result is..
1) There is this black cloud of doubt painted above Obama's head.
2) Novack is made out to be a bad guy when he is just an overzealous reporter wanting to break the most outrageous story possible.
3) The Clinton's walk away smelling like a rose, blaming the evil conservatives for everything.
And idiots believe them.
what incident are you refering to here?
Novak Stands by Obama Dirt Story, Compares Clinton Campaign Tactics to Nixon Monday, November 19, 2007
WASHINGTON ??? Columnist Robert Novak stood by his story Monday that the Clinton campaign is spreading the word that it's holding back on dishing dirt on Barack Obama, and charged the Democratic frontrunner with playing "Nixon tricks."
Novak, a FOX News contributor, added that he did not believe there were any Republicans behind the effort ??? as some have alleged since his column was published Saturday ??? to force Democrats to fight against each other.
Novak's initial report said: "Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information" about Obama, "but has decided not to use it. The nature of the alleged scandal was not disclosed."
On Monday, Novak told FOX News that claims that there is actual dirt on Obama might not pass the sniff test.
"This is very similar to the kind of trick that Richard Nixon used to pull, where he would say, 'I know some very bad information about the communists supporting George McGovern, but I can't put that out because it wouldn't be right, but I'm just too good of a guy,' " Novak said.
A message left seeking comment from a Clinton campaign spokesman was not immediately returned.
RelatedStories Obama Slams Clinton on NAFTA, Calls Novak Column 'Slime Politics' Clinton Camp Says It Has No Dirty Secrets About Obama After Columnist Bob Novak Suggests Alleged Scandal Video 'Scandalous' Information Novak also said he still had no proof that there really is scandalous information about Obama, only that he's certain that Clinton's campaign told well-connected Democrats that they had such information.
"Now whether there is any such scandalous information, I don???t' know, but what I know is I'm confident in my sources, who I trust. We're told this by Clinton people that there was such information out."
Obama responded angrily after Novak's column was published, challenging Clinton's campaign to come forward with the information, if it exists.
"Sen. Clinton should either make public any and all information referred to in the item, or concede the truth: that there is none. She of all people, having complained so often about the politics of personal destruction, should move quickly to either stand by or renounce these tactics."
He also denounced the attacks as reminiscent of the "Swift boat" campaign against Sen. John Kerry in the 2004 presidential race, in which his supporters say his military record was attacked with unsubstantiated reports by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group.
Clinton's campaign has denied any knowledge of the story, and suggested that Republicans might be behind the report. Novak is a conservative columnist.
Clinton spokesman Jay Carson said Saturday that Obama was "walking right into a Republican trap."
But Novak said the claims of Republican involvement are unsubstantiated.
"The whole method of the Clinton campaign is when anything derogatory comes up, they say the Republicans are spreading it. But there was no Republicans involved in any of my reporting on this," Novak said Monday.
Novak also suggested that Obama could use the information to his advantage, especially in the heated primary battle in Iowa, where Obama and Clinton were statistically tied in polls last week.
"Senator Obama's only hope is to portray Sen. Clinton as a manipulative, almost Nixonian-type of candidate who would do anything to win and can't be trusted. Obviously, Senator Obama is in a different position ??? he must win in Iowa," Novak said, but, "Iowa caucus-goers might be put off by any kind of allegation of dirty tricks on the part of the Clinton campaign."
Already happening, emails are circulating now... It's a matter of time before it hits the mainstream media.
Taken from a emailed that is heavily circulated here at my job:
" Click on the website and see that there is an unabashedly RACIST running for president. What if one of the white men or Hill were a member of a church that declared itself "UNASHAMEDLY WHITE?" What would the media have done to them already.
Subject: Obama's church
Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting.
Obama's church:
Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Are you aware that Obama's middle name is Mohammed? Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get?Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa!
I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all of our family & friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below: This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:
After Hillary Clinton supporter Bob Johnson argued at a Clinton rally that Barack Obama has no standing on the issue of race because he was a teenager doing drugs "in the neighborhood" back when the Clintons were working on issues important to minorities, no one asked this question: What on earth is Hillary Clinton doing using Johnson, the founder of BET, as a campaign surrogate?
According to a 2001 profile in the New Republic, "Johnson is not a man with a deep sense of social obligation." He has a long history of teaming with the Bush Administration to fight against progressive goals (many of which would benefit the African-American community) in order to further his own financial ends. A few years ago, for example, he got a group of rich African-Americans together to falsify evidence and argue in favor of eliminating the death tax, a key Bush Administration goal. "As Robert Johnson of Black Entertainment Television argues," said President Bush, "the death tax and double taxation weighs heavily on minorities." This, of course, is false, and both Bush and Johnson knew it. The death tax only hits those who have large estates to leave to their children, a population far more white than black.
Johnson has engaged in union-busting. "On one occasion he laid off or reduced the hours of BET workers who joined an electricians' union, an action that a federal judge subsequently ruled illegal," writes Jonathan Chait in TNR.
And he fought for President Bush's Social Security privatization plan. Johnson served on the President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security. From that post, he argued that blacks don't receive as much from the current Social Security system than whites because they are more likely to die before retirement age. That argument is specious for two reasons. I'll let Chait explain:
"First, Social Security does more than pay benefits to retirees. It also gives benefits to the families of workers who die or are disabled at a young age. Since black workers are more likely to suffer workplace injuries, they benefit disproportionately from this part of the program. And the more Social Security tax dollars are drained away into private accounts--as Bush proposes to do--the less that is available for survivors' benefits.
"Second, Social Security's retirement benefits are progressive: They offer a higher rate of return to lower-paid workers. Since black workers, on average, earn less than the population at large, they benefit from this redistribution. This more than makes up for any loss they suffer from dying younger. On the whole, then, Social Security redistributes money from whites to blacks. Most plans for private accounts do not. As with the estate tax, Johnson has his racial analysis backward."
Johnson also has a long history of refusing to give back to the black community, while shamelessly using his race to further his own ends (i.e. make more money). The TNR profile is worth reading in full. Hopefully someone in the Clinton campaign will do so, and reconsider their connection to Johnson.
Robert L. Johnson came to the Bush administration's attention when it needed him most. The cause of the White House's duress was an annoyingly munificent collection of millionaires, headed by Bill Gates Sr., who had banded together to oppose President Bush's plan to abolish the estate tax. In newspaper ads and press conferences, they held forth on the obligation of the wealthy to give back to society. So effectively did they seize the moral high ground that even the most fervent opponents of the estate tax resigned themselves to it. "(I)t is looking increasingly doubtful," reported The Wall Street Journal a week later, "that large estates will escape federal taxation altogether."
Evidently this didn't sit well with Johnson, the billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television (BET), whose family stood to gain millions if Bush succeeded. Johnson is not a man with a deep sense of social obligation. Not long ago, when an interviewer prodded him for his views on philanthropy, Johnson scoffed, "(B)eing a very wealthy person is not something that I wake up in the morning and say, 'Gee, I got all this money. How do I give it away?'" There is, however, an important exception to this every-man-for-himself ethos: society's duty to aid extremely wealthy African Americans. This social obligation Johnson takes very seriously.
So Johnson did what he often does when his interests are at stake: He played the race card. Johnson gathered a collection of black business leaders and demanded an end to the estate tax. Taking out newspaper ads of their own, Johnson's group attacked the tax for draining wealth from the black community. Unlike "very wealthy white Americans" who supported the tax, he declared, "We as African Americans have come to our wealth on a different path, a different road than they have." Gates and his friends, Johnson implied, were not really promoting the common good; they were trying to keep the black man down. All of a sudden, it was not so clear who held the moral high ground. Estate tax repeal had become a civil rights issue.
Almost no one--not even the White House--had thought to frame the issue this way. And for good reason: It is a bizarre inversion of the truth. "Elimination of the Estate Tax," Johnson's ad argued, using extraneous capitalizations for emphasis, "will help close the wealth gap in this nation between African American families and White families." But the estate tax is paid only by people who inherit large fortunes, and black people, as one might suspect, are far less likely than white people to do so. (Blacks make up about 12 percent of the population, but less than one-half of 1 percent of estate tax payers.) And the revenues from the tax, obviously, fund government programs, which tend to help those with low incomes, who are disproportionately black. Repealing the estate tax, therefore, would dramatically widen the wealth gap.
But Johnson gave Bush the cover he needed to once again cast himself as a champion of minority interests. "As Robert Johnson of Black Entertainment Television argues, the death tax and double taxation weighs heavily on minorities," said Bush, who added that his plan would allow people to transfer wealth "from one generation to the next, regardless of a person's race."
Fortunately for Johnson, and even more fortunately for his heirs, estate tax repeal subsequently passed into law. But Johnson's campaign to abolish the estate tax was more than just a way to save a few million bucks. It was the beginning of a political partnership between the CEO of BET and the president of the United States, one that has now turned its attention to an even grander cause: the privatization of Social Security. On May 2, Bush appointed Johnson to his commission charged with transforming the popular program. Once again, Johnson has racialized a long-standing conservative crusade. We must turn Social Security into a system with individual investment accounts, he argues, because the existing program unfairly shortchanges blacks. Social Security overhaul is Bush's most radical--and most politically perilous--aspiration. That the administration has entrusted Johnson with this task, despite his lack of expertise (and, indeed, his lack of any history of public interest in the issue),
is a measure of the ideological reliability with which it now regards him. Johnson, according to one analyst, "is trying to position himself as Bush's go-to guy in the African American community." And it looks like he's succeeding.
At first blush, there is something peculiar about this burgeoning partnership. Before Bush took office, Johnson cut the standard political profile of a member of the black bourgeoisie--his strongest political connections were with the civil rights establishment, and he donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrats. And yet his alliance with the president is not as strange as it may appear. Johnson has spent his career converting the moral capital of the black struggle for equality to his own personal economic advantage. One of Bush's central innovations has been to cloak an economic agenda radically geared to the interests of the wealthy in multicultural imagery. In a sense, the business strategy of Robert Johnson and the political strategy of George W. Bush were destined for each other.
Johnson presents himself as the very opposite of a shrewd manipulator of racial politics. His preferred self-image is that of a bottom-line businessman who does his best to disregard racial barriers. A New York Times profile last year began with Johnson recounting how, early in his career, he swallowed his anger while a white colleague told a racist joke at a bar. (Profiles of Johnson often feature him recounting racial slights, always to make the point that he is not bothered by them.) The Times summed up Johnson's ethos this way: "That philosophy--keep emotions in check, don't let issues of race get in the way of the deal--has helped Mr. Johnson, 54, become one of the country's most successful black entrepreneurs."
But while Johnson's talent as a businessman is undeniable--he has, after all, earned more than $1 billion from scratch--he didn't come by his fortune through the classic build-a-better-mousetrap method of American capitalism. Rather, his genius lies in finding certain corners of the economy where he can guarantee himself a steady stream of risk-free profit without having to provide goods or services of any special value. He does so by making himself politically indispensable to his business partners. Johnson's career has less in common with Henry Ford than with, say, the Soviet gas monopoly. And to acquire such franchises, he offers not baksheesh but racial absolution.
Johnson first demonstrated this ability in 1979, when, as a cable TV lobbyist, he came up with the one true innovation in his business career: a cable TV station targeted to black viewers. At the time, cities represented cable's only remaining untapped market. And cable companies that could claim to support black culture enjoyed a political advantage in the race to wire them. All of which set the stage for Johnson's sweetheart deal. A Denver-based cable giant called TCI put up half a million dollars to acquire a minority share of Johnson's new network, which he called Black Entertainment Television. Johnson got the majority stake--after putting up just $15,000 of his own money. The benefit to TCI was clear: It could tell the mayors and city councils in charge of doling out contracts that it carried and financed a black-owned, black-themed station. "Under traditional investment standards, the return on investment has not been what one would look for," a TCI official told The Washington Post ten years later. But that, he added, doesn't account for "how much goodwill we get from making a major attempt to provide programming of interest to the minority community." Johnson, meanwhile, reaped a windfall.
Of course, now that Johnson had a cable station, he had to put content on the air. But this turned out to be pretty simple, too. Since BET's main purpose was to score political points for Johnson's financial patron, the actual programming hardly mattered. As Johnson liked to tell his staff, "We don't have to reinvent the wheel. We just have to paint it black." During its first couple of years, BET broadcast only two hours per week--an old movie on Friday nights. It took four years to expand to 24-hour broadcasting, and its main criterion still seems to be finding ways to fill airtime at no cost. The network devotes hour after hour to infomercials--"Black Entertainment Television," goes one joke, "is neither black nor entertainment." And it relies heavily on music videos, which studios provide to the network for free in order to promote their albums and which, as of two years ago, accounted for more than half of BET's content.
Unfortunately, the videos tend to feature the least edifying elements of African American culture--gangsta rappers and booty-shaking dancers. That's one reason Johnson and BET have for years come under withering criticism within the African American community. One BET executive confessed at a music conference in June 1996 that she doesn't permit her daughter to watch the station. Aaron McGruder, who authors an edgy cartoon about black life, has made a living disparaging Johnson. In one strip, a character asserts that he "used to be a firm believer" that "powerful black business people would then act in the best interests of black America." But then "BET shot a few holes in that theory."
Johnson has also endured criticism for serving as a front man for TCI--a role he reprised in 1984 when he acquired the rights to provide cable television to Washington, D.C. Like many other local governments, Washington's city council put great emphasis on finding a locally owned, minority contractor. Even though the council's cable committee recommended another firm, Johnson's group won the bid, in large part--as the Post suggested at the time--because its shareholders included a number of cronies and financial donors of then-Mayor Marion Barry.
Johnson promised that his company "would not be back seeking relief from promises we could not keep." But, within a few months, Johnson acknowledged (as did cable contractors in other cities) that he could not keep his commitment without millions of dollars in concessions from the city. Johnson also obtained tens of millions in additional financing from TCI, giving it financial control of the operation. With Johnson and his local, minority partners reduced to figureheads, a Post columnist observed, "Would the D.C. City Council have given the cable franchise in the first place to a white company from Denver with local black managers? I doubt it."
Johnson has a blunt reply to such detractors. "There are thousands of white businessmen who never get asked, 'Are you a hero?' and never are asked what they have given back to the white community," he told c-span in 1992, "What are my responsibilities to black people at large? If I help my family get over and deal with the problems they might confront, then I have achieved that one goal that is my responsibility to society at large."
As Johnson tells it, he asks only to be treated like any other entrepreneur, black or white. But he applies his disregard for race selectively. When he's asked to help the black community, he's just a businessman. On the other hand, when Johnson's own interests are at stake, he portrays himself as a stand-in for black America. Race is his catchall justification for all sorts of socially and economically noxious behavior. He has turned the racial mau-mau into a business plan.
For example, Johnson has a long record of quashing efforts by his underpaid employees to unionize. On one occasion he laid off or reduced the hours of BET workers who joined an electricians' union, an action that a federal judge subsequently ruled illegal. He justifies such behavior by accusing the unions of racial bias for trying to organize a black-owned network. "I don't see them taking part in the $(naacp's threatened network$) boycott. I don't see them writing open letters to the networks about their lack of black representation. Why do they pick on BET? Why not ABC or NBC or Fox?"
In 1994 Johnson brought his tactics to th
e world of professional sports when he decided he wanted to purchase Washington's NBA franchise, the Bullets. When the team's owner, Abe Pollin, turned down his entreaties, Johnson tried another tack. "I told him, 'Abe, you're from the suburbs, I'm from the city,'" he recounted to the Post, "'You're white, I'm black. The city is mostly black, and the players are too.'" When Pollin resisted this line of reasoning, Johnson declared that he wanted to bring a second NBA franchise to the area. The league, he acknowledged, traditionally discourages the establishment of a new franchise in such close proximity to an existing one. But, he mused, it might not want to oppose a prospective black owner. That plan failed, too, but only after Johnson waged a protracted fight against Pollin's effort to build a new arena in downtown Washington--just the sort of economic development most boosters of the majority-black city encourage.
But the quintessential Robert Johnson business deal was unveiled last spring, when United Airlines announced its intention to purchase its main rival, US Airways. The merger was politically perilous, since the Clinton Justice Department did not seem favorably disposed toward another merger in such a heavily consolidated industry. The airlines tried to solve this problem by cutting Johnson in on the deal. Under the proposed arrangement, Johnson would create a new airline, DC Air. DC Air would lease its planes and runway spots from United, with which--in theory--it would also compete.
It was yet another no-lose proposition for Johnson. He would get a pre-fab airline--complete with planes, parts, and the people to make it work--for well below market value. (Continental Airlines subsequently offered to pay 50 percent more than Johnson for the same assets.) In return, Johnson provided United essentially the same thing Virgil "the Turk" Sollozzo wanted from Don Corleone: police and political protection. Johnson enjoyed a close relationship with President Clinton, having donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic campaigns. Airline analysts speculated--but, of course, could not prove--that United believed Johnson's influence could help make antitrust concerns disappear.
Johnson quickly went about using race to demonize the merger's opponents. In a hearing on June 15 of last year, James Oberstar, the top-ranking Democrat on the House Transportation Committee, pointed out that DC Air would be dependent on its supposed rival, United. "That's not a real competitive environment," Oberstar noted. At that point he slipped in an unfortunate phrase: "That's a plantation." Oberstar later explained that he was trying to draw an analogy to the serf-like status of the District of Columbia, which is sometimes called "the last plantation." But US Airways Chairman Stephen Wolf saw the remark on c-span, and--no doubt sensing an opportunity--phoned Johnson, who pounced. Calling Oberstar's remark "blatant racism," he demanded that the congressman apologize and recuse himself from the issue. Oberstar dutifully apologized, but Johnson played the race card again the following January, accusing New York Senator Charles E. Schumer, a merger critic, of favoring DC Air's rivals "because they are white businesspersons."
Despite Johnson's best efforts, the Justice Department delayed the merger. In fact, its review dragged on past the end of the year (before being officially nixed at the end of July). But, even before the deal fell through, something happened that completely overturned its political calculus: Bush took office. All at once, Johnson's connections with Clinton were useless. "I think with $(Johnson's$) issue on the airlines," speculates Harry Alford, a fellow black anti-estate-tax activist, "he saw he had to get both sides of the aisle."
As alford implies, it is highly unlikely that Johnson would have undergone such a rapid political metamorphosis had his business dealings not demanded it. Yet his newfound conservatism is not entirely philosophically incoherent. The premise of Johnson's special pleading has always been that his business interests are the only legitimate civil rights issue. His right to amass more wealth trumps his employees' interest in higher wages, the community's interest in non-debasing black entertainment, and travelers' interest in affordable airfares. The fact that many of the people on the other side of the equation are black does not enter into Johnson's accounting. And, in recent months, he seems to have discovered that the moral logic that propelled his spectacular business career has an application in the world of public policy as well.
Johnson's interest in the estate tax is, of course, a direct consequence of his financial interests. His membership on the President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security, on the other hand, came about by accident. In mid-March, Johnson delivered a speech at Brown University about his life. By happenstance, Sam Beard was in the audience. Beard is a full-time evangelist for Social Security privatization. He is particularly intent on sharing the gospel with nonconservatives--he treated me to a soliloquy in the course of telling this story--and can explain the idea so it sounds not like the product of right-wing think tanks but like the natural outgrowth of the Great Society. Beard saw in Johnson an ideal convert. "His whole presentation is about wealth," recounts Beard, meaning this as a compliment. Beard struck up a conversation with Johnson and, finding him receptive, asked whether he would like to serve on a presidential commission on the topic if invited to. Johnson said yes.
Chuck Blahous, the White House staffer in charge of Social Security reform, does not recall the precise genesis of Johnson's involvement. "We were looking for diversity of background," he explains. In fact, there is nothing in the public record to suggest that Johnson had any previous interest in the topic. And that may have worked in his favor. Johnson's obvious role on the commission is to argue that Social Security privatization will help blacks, who, he claims, are treated unfairly by the current system. Pro-privatization think tanks, such as the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute, have argued that for years, pumping out position papers and targeting the black media. But the idea never received much mainstream attention until Bush anointed Johnson to take it up. Johnson well understands his role--he brings up the racial angle at every turn, generally leaving to others the broader case for personal accounts. He doesn't have to reinvent the case for privatization. He just has to paint it black.
Johnson's argument is rooted in a simple misunderstanding. "African Americans who contribute to the Social Security system and payroll taxes," he says, "also have one of the highest mortality rates, so in the end, they may not receive the full benefits of what they put in Social Security." And it's true that blacks, on average, die younger than whites. Social Security pays its retirement benefits only as long as a worker is alive. Therefore, privatizers conclude, blacks would particularly benefit from individual retirement accounts. That way, those who die early won't get less benefits--extra money in their account will be passed on to their heirs.
There are two reasons this conclusion is false. First, Social Security does more than pay benefits to retirees. It also gives benefits to the families of workers who die or are disabled at a young age. Since black workers are more likely to suffer workplace injuries, they benefit disproportionately from this part of the program. And the more Social Security tax dollars are drained away into private accounts--as Bush proposes to do--the less that is available for survivors' benefits.
Second, Social Security's retirement benefits are progressive: They offer a higher rate of return to lower-paid workers. Since black workers, on average, earn less than the population at large, they benefit from this redistribution. This more than makes up for any
loss they suffer from dying younger. On the whole, then, Social Security redistributes money from whites to blacks. Most plans for private accounts do not. As with the estate tax, Johnson has his racial analysis backward.
But Johnson's argument is more than untrue; it is deeply revealing. Before Social Security, retirees couldn't know how much of a pension to allot themselves out of their savings, if they had any, because they didn't know how long they would live. If they spent too much, they might outlive their savings. Social Security fixed that problem by giving retired workers a guaranteed income for as long as they lived. Johnson, and Bush's commission, now argue that it would make more sense to give each retiree an individual account. It's true that this one feature, by itself, would tend to benefit those who die younger. But, of course, nobody can be certain that he or she will die young. Suppose we were to discover that, say, Italian-Americans are somewhat less likely than other Americans to lose their homes from natural disasters. One could then make the case that federal disaster relief constitutes a net transfer of wealth out of their community, and that they should oppose it. The important point here is not even that blacks wouldn't benefit from Social Security privatization. It's that Johnson implicitly rejects the very idea that politics is about the common good.
Conservatives used to vehemently--sometimes even eloquently--oppose this kind of thinking. Color-blindness, they once insisted, was the only moral basis for decent public policy. But the Bush administration has changed that. It boasts incessantly about its racial, ethnic, and gender diversity and has hatched a slew of initiatives targeted at specific constituencies. For women, the White House is pushing the "Winning Women" campaign. For Catholics, Bush appropriates the language of the Church. For Mexican-Americans, Bush last month floated an amnesty program that wouldn't apply to all immigrants--just this one, politically important immigrant group. Bush, of course, did not invent identity politics; his contribution has been to tether it to policies geared toward the interests of accumulated wealth.
In short, Bushism and Johnsonism are made for each other; their nascent alliance represents a historic synthesis of the racial separatism of the left and the libertarianism of the right. Johnson, even more than Bush, seemed to recognize this commonality from the beginning. "If he's smart," the businessman said of the president last April, "he'd take the opportunity to reach out to these African American business leaders and say, 'We agree on at least one thing. What else can we talk about?'" The answer, alas, is plenty.
Jonathan Chait is a senior editor at The New Republic.
Already happening, emails are circulating now... It's a matter of time before it hits the mainstream media.
Taken from a emailed that is heavily circulated here at my job:
" Click on the website and see that there is an unabashedly RACIST running for president. What if one of the white men or Hill were a member of a church that declared itself "UNASHAMEDLY WHITE?" What would the media have done to them already.
Subject: Obama's church
Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting.
Obama's church:
Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Are you aware that Obama's middle name is Mohammed? Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get?Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa!
I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all of our family & friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below: This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:
not for nothing, but I think African Americans are getting short-changed by social security.
According to the National Vital Statistics Reports . . . The difference in life expectancy is even more striking among African American men, who have a life expectancy of only 66.1 years, compared to the national average of 73.6 years for all men.
I think it would be more fair that families be able to keep some of that money rather than have it go back into the pot. Sometimes it only takes a few thousand dollars to start a small business, buy a house, a taxi medalion, etc. Many of the other groups that had to lift themselves up despite discrimination, like the Irish and the Italians, did so at a time when there was no (or little) federal income tax, so they kept their money from the beginning.
Already happening, emails are circulating now... It's a matter of time before it hits the mainstream media.
Taken from a emailed that is heavily circulated here at my job:
" Click on the website and see that there is an unabashedly RACIST running for president. What if one of the white men or Hill were a member of a church that declared itself "UNASHAMEDLY WHITE?" What would the media have done to them already.
Subject: Obama's church
Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting.
Obama's church:
Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Are you aware that Obama's middle name is Mohammed? Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get?Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa!
I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all of our family & friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below: This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:
Already happening, emails are circulating now... It's a matter of time before it hits the mainstream media.
Taken from a emailed that is heavily circulated here at my job:
" Click on the website and see that there is an unabashedly RACIST running for president. What if one of the white men or Hill were a member of a church that declared itself "UNASHAMEDLY WHITE?" What would the media have done to them already.
Subject: Obama's church
Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting.
Obama's church:
Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Are you aware that Obama's middle name is Mohammed? Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get?Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa!
I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all of our family & friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below: This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:
Wooo hooo - jackpot. Not only does the author lift the first sentence right out of the government website, he then goes on to ignore the fact that the payment is laughable, by replacing any facts with conclusions pulled out of his/her ass. There is a high possibility that Motown is the author of this article.
"First, Social Security does more than pay benefits to retirees. It also gives benefits to the families of workers who die or are disabled at a young age. Since black workers are more likely to suffer workplace injuries, they benefit disproportionately from this part of the program. And the more Social Security tax dollars are drained away into private accounts--as Bush proposes to do--the less that is available for survivors' benefits.
Government Law - Social Security Law - Survivors
How about a brief overview of survivors benefits?
Social Security is more than monthly retirement benefits. Monthly benefits, depending upon the particular circumstances, can be paid to:
If you have enough credits at the time of your death, family members may be eligible for benefits. Eligible family members include:
(1) widows and widowers age 62 or older
(2) disabled widow/widower age 50 or older
(3) widow/widower caring for a child under age 16 or a disabled child who receives social security benefits
(5) unmarried children under age 18 - or under age 19 while a full-time student in elementary or secondary school - or age 18 or older who is severely disabled
(6) parents who were dependent upon you for at least half of their support.
A one-time $255 lump sum benefit may also be payable.[/b]
Divorced widows/widowers may also be eligible for benefits - after your death - based upon your social security account.
rock you cant be trusted with that large a lump sum of money, because you are like a child. That's why this system must be preserved to protect you from your own impulses. Rather than trust you with your money, the system will ensure that you are taken care of by giving you a little bit of money at a time. Not, a lot, but enough to keep you poor and, of course, voting democrat.
rock you cant be trusted with that large a lump sum of money, because you are like a child. That's why this system must be preserved to protect you from your own impulses. Rather than trust you with your money, the system will ensure that you are taken care of by giving you a little bit of money at a time. Not, a lot, but enough to keep you poor and, of course, voting democrat.
Shit....with THAT kind of money I can pay someone to vote for me!
And the left eats that shit up while pointing at Novack and claiming he's an evil conservative out to hurt the Clintons.
The result is..
1) There is this black cloud of doubt painted above Obama's head.
2) Novack is made out to be a bad guy when he is just an overzealous reporter wanting to break the most outrageous story possible.
3) The Clinton's walk away smelling like a rose, blaming the evil conservatives for everything.
And idiots believe them.
novack is full of shit and he got called out on this tmz type story the day his bogus article ran. did you forget novack's role in the Libby/Plame mess before you wrote that he's "made out to be a bad guy" but just "an overzealous reporter". its one thing not to reveal your sources, but how about not revealing your story!??!!
he succeeded in creating a buzz about what shocking dirt the clinton campaign supposedly had on obama, but then he just stfu when everyone challenged his journalistic ethics and integrity....AGAIN....by refusing to even say what the dirt was/is. go take that shit back to fox news.
this whole hillary/obama race issue is beyond stupid and i guess i was just bored last night for even getting into it. the Clintons policies and the voting records of Blacks in favor of the Clintons is all that needs to be said.
Johnson got a little carried away, but what was his main point? that the Obama camp must thing Black folks across the country are stupid if he is going to even engage in this ridiculous debate over whether the clintons are racist. Blacks have overwhelmingly supported the clintons. so are they a bunch of idiots or did the Clintons just succeed in fooling them all these years?
And regardless of whether you think Johnson makes sense or is talking out of his ass, he's NOT a paid Clinton spokesman. should we get into all the things that have been said by people who are campaigning for Obama? did you catch jesse jackson jr. giving a speech about hillary's crocodile tears last week? who cares.
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honestly I'm not defending dude because I don't know who he is, BUT it's not a totally unbelievable explanation. Obama's book is largely about his experiences as a community organizer in Chicago (or so I hear). Dude is making it seem like Obama was making pissant moves going door-to-door on some bush league shit while Hillary was already making power moves in DC. it's a lame thing to say about him because, well, what he was doing was important. and he's younger and less experienced so of course he wasn't making the same moves Hillary was at that point in his life. it's actually a totally, utterly ridiculous attempt to dis Obama.
but its nonetheless at least a probable explanation for his remark. he wasn't necessarily referring to the drug use.
Right. Keep in mind: we're talking about the man who founded the "Blaxploitation as Entertainment" Network. The "slimy" and "shill" quotients have been ascertained.
And anyone who swallows the fetid tripe that Mr. Johnson WASN'T referencing Obama's drug use needs to sober up and return to the text that needs no context. That is easily the worst coverup since "macaca."
This has little to do with the Clintons, at this point.
this has nothing to do with the clintons. he's not a spokesperson and the only reason its getting any publicity at all is because Johnson is Black. and what if he was referencing Obama's drug use? he didn't say that invalidates him as a candidate and he didn't preach about the evils of drug use, if taken as a drug reference it still couldn't even be taken literally. hillary was helping the community while obama was getting high on coke? come on. even if he was referencing obama's drug use, it was tongue in cheek.
DUDE: You are Jim Jonesing up in this bitch.
This is politics. Maybe you need to come to Chicago and breathe the air that quadrennially resurrects corpses so they can vote for Daley.
I'm not crying. I'm laughing at you.
Agreed. That was the coldest post I've ever read.
DUDE: You're talking about "the worst coverup since macaca"....about a non-politician who, in the worst possible scenario, inferred that obama did something he admitted to.
you think clinton scripted his comments???? give her some credit. thats the kool aid i'm drinking? please.
bill got more % of black votes than any candidate in history...but the clintons must be racist and any successful black guy who supports hillary must have some hidden agenda, right?
Clinton's campaign has been subtly bringing up the drug issue for MONTHS now.
Read the quote: "I won't say what he was doing, but he said it in the book"
If that isn't reference to some sort of illicit activity...
Clinton is painting herself as an innocent bystander. And like Gus in The Wire says, "there ain't many of those anymore." It's total bullshit.
Her new tactic is to paint Obama as a "divider". It's all over the papers today. If she pulls this off it will be truly one of the great passive-aggressive, slimeball washington politricks of my lifetime. It'll be up there with Willie Horton and the Swiftboat ads.
The Clinton machine knows EXACTLY what they're doing, trust that... isn't that your argument for voting for them???
Yeah, I read that too. Why any independent or "change" democrat would vote for this kind of old-guard dirty politics is beyond me.
Here's what kills me......
Politics by definition in 2007 are sleazy and the Clinton's are at the head of the class.
While I'm not gonna sit here and ask anyone to believe the conspiracy theory BS about how many people the Clinton's have had killed, I will tell you a simple trick they use that should be recognized.
The "campaign"(not Bill & Hillary per se)claim that there is some dark secret out there about Obama and they anonymously "leak" this to a reporter(Novack)who is recognized by everyone as a conservative.
Novack, like any foaming at the mouth political reporter, rushes the story to press and when it hit's the Clinton's distance themselves while saying "He's a plant for the Republican's, what do you expect".
And the left eats that shit up while pointing at Novack and claiming he's an evil conservative out to hurt the Clintons.
The result is..
1) There is this black cloud of doubt painted above Obama's head.
2) Novack is made out to be a bad guy when he is just an overzealous reporter wanting to break the most outrageous story possible.
3) The Clinton's walk away smelling like a rose, blaming the evil conservatives for everything.
And idiots believe them.
what incident are you refering to here?
Novak Stands by Obama Dirt Story, Compares Clinton Campaign Tactics to Nixon
Monday, November 19, 2007
WASHINGTON ??? Columnist Robert Novak stood by his story Monday that the Clinton campaign is spreading the word that it's holding back on dishing dirt on Barack Obama, and charged the Democratic frontrunner with playing "Nixon tricks."
Novak, a FOX News contributor, added that he did not believe there were any Republicans behind the effort ??? as some have alleged since his column was published Saturday ??? to force Democrats to fight against each other.
Novak's initial report said: "Agents of Sen. Hillary Clinton are spreading the word in Democratic circles that she has scandalous information" about Obama, "but has decided not to use it. The nature of the alleged scandal was not disclosed."
On Monday, Novak told FOX News that claims that there is actual dirt on Obama might not pass the sniff test.
"This is very similar to the kind of trick that Richard Nixon used to pull, where he would say, 'I know some very bad information about the communists supporting George McGovern, but I can't put that out because it wouldn't be right, but I'm just too good of a guy,' " Novak said.
A message left seeking comment from a Clinton campaign spokesman was not immediately returned.
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'Scandalous' Information Novak also said he still had no proof that there really is scandalous information about Obama, only that he's certain that Clinton's campaign told well-connected Democrats that they had such information.
"Now whether there is any such scandalous information, I don???t' know, but what I know is I'm confident in my sources, who I trust. We're told this by Clinton people that there was such information out."
Obama responded angrily after Novak's column was published, challenging Clinton's campaign to come forward with the information, if it exists.
"Sen. Clinton should either make public any and all information referred to in the item, or concede the truth: that there is none. She of all people, having complained so often about the politics of personal destruction, should move quickly to either stand by or renounce these tactics."
He also denounced the attacks as reminiscent of the "Swift boat" campaign against Sen. John Kerry in the 2004 presidential race, in which his supporters say his military record was attacked with unsubstantiated reports by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth group.
Clinton's campaign has denied any knowledge of the story, and suggested that Republicans might be behind the report. Novak is a conservative columnist.
Clinton spokesman Jay Carson said Saturday that Obama was "walking right into a Republican trap."
But Novak said the claims of Republican involvement are unsubstantiated.
"The whole method of the Clinton campaign is when anything derogatory comes up, they say the Republicans are spreading it. But there was no Republicans involved in any of my reporting on this," Novak said Monday.
Novak also suggested that Obama could use the information to his advantage, especially in the heated primary battle in Iowa, where Obama and Clinton were statistically tied in polls last week.
"Senator Obama's only hope is to portray Sen. Clinton as a manipulative, almost Nixonian-type of candidate who would do anything to win and can't be trusted. Obviously, Senator Obama is in a different position ??? he must win in Iowa," Novak said, but, "Iowa caucus-goers might be put off by any kind of allegation of dirty tricks on the part of the Clinton campaign."
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But of course this link is from Fox News and they are evil conservatives out to get the Clinton's.
Already happening, emails are circulating now... It's a matter of time before it hits the mainstream media.
Taken from a emailed that is heavily circulated here at my job:
" Click on the website and see that there is an unabashedly RACIST running for president. What if one of the white men or Hill were a member of a church that declared itself "UNASHAMEDLY WHITE?" What would the media have done to them already.
Subject: Obama's church
Obama mentioned his church during his appearance with Oprah. It's the Trinity Church of Christ. I found this interesting.
Obama's church:
Please read and go to this church's website and read what is written there. It is very alarming.
Barack Obama is a member of this church and is running for President of the U.S. If you look at the first page of their website, you will learn that this congregation has a non-negotiable commitment to Africa. No where is AMERICA even mentioned. Notice too, what color you will need to be if you should want to join Obama's church... B-L-A-C-K!!! Doesn't look like his choice of religion has improved much over his (former?) Muslim upbringing.
Are you aware that Obama's middle name is Mohammed? Strip away his nice looks, the big smile and smooth talk and what do you get?Certainly a racist, as plainly defined by the stated position of his church! And possibly a covert worshiper of the Muslim faith, even today. This guy desires to rule over America while his loyalty is totally vested in a Black Africa!
I cannot believe this has not been all over the TV and newspapers. This is why it is so important to pass this message along to all of our family & friends. To think that Obama has even the slightest chance in the run for the presidency, is really scary.
Click on the link below:
This is the web page for the church Barack Obama belongs to:
www.tucc.org/about.htm "
Mother Jones Blog
January 14, 2008
After Hillary Clinton supporter Bob Johnson argued at a Clinton rally that Barack Obama has no standing on the issue of race because he was a teenager doing drugs "in the neighborhood" back when the Clintons were working on issues important to minorities, no one asked this question: What on earth is Hillary Clinton doing using Johnson, the founder of BET, as a campaign surrogate?
According to a 2001 profile in the New Republic, "Johnson is not a man with a deep sense of social obligation." He has a long history of teaming with the Bush Administration to fight against progressive goals (many of which would benefit the African-American community) in order to further his own financial ends. A few years ago, for example, he got a group of rich African-Americans together to falsify evidence and argue in favor of eliminating the death tax, a key Bush Administration goal. "As Robert Johnson of Black Entertainment Television argues," said President Bush, "the death tax and double taxation weighs heavily on minorities." This, of course, is false, and both Bush and Johnson knew it. The death tax only hits those who have large estates to leave to their children, a population far more white than black.
Johnson has engaged in union-busting. "On one occasion he laid off or reduced the hours of BET workers who joined an electricians' union, an action that a federal judge subsequently ruled illegal," writes Jonathan Chait in TNR.
And he fought for President Bush's Social Security privatization plan. Johnson served on the President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security. From that post, he argued that blacks don't receive as much from the current Social Security system than whites because they are more likely to die before retirement age. That argument is specious for two reasons. I'll let Chait explain:
"First, Social Security does more than pay benefits to retirees. It also gives benefits to the families of workers who die or are disabled at a young age. Since black workers are more likely to suffer workplace injuries, they benefit disproportionately from this part of the program. And the more Social Security tax dollars are drained away into private accounts--as Bush proposes to do--the less that is available for survivors' benefits.
"Second, Social Security's retirement benefits are progressive: They offer a higher rate of return to lower-paid workers. Since black workers, on average, earn less than the population at large, they benefit from this redistribution. This more than makes up for any loss they suffer from dying younger. On the whole, then, Social Security redistributes money from whites to blacks. Most plans for private accounts do not. As with the estate tax, Johnson has his racial analysis backward."
Johnson also has a long history of refusing to give back to the black community, while shamelessly using his race to further his own ends (i.e. make more money). The TNR profile is worth reading in full. Hopefully someone in the Clinton campaign will do so, and reconsider their connection to Johnson.
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Paint It Black: Robert Johnson, W.'s favorite race baiter.[/b]
http://www.tnr.com/politics/story.html?id=3ecbba91-f447-455b-98a3-d92f522a4814
The New Republic
September 3, 2001
by Jonathan Chait
Robert L. Johnson came to the Bush administration's attention when it needed him most. The cause of the White House's duress was an annoyingly munificent collection of millionaires, headed by Bill Gates Sr., who had banded together to oppose President Bush's plan to abolish the estate tax. In newspaper ads and press conferences, they held forth on the obligation of the wealthy to give back to society. So effectively did they seize the moral high ground that even the most fervent opponents of the estate tax resigned themselves to it. "(I)t is looking increasingly doubtful," reported The Wall Street Journal a week later, "that large estates will escape federal taxation altogether."
Evidently this didn't sit well with Johnson, the billionaire founder of Black Entertainment Television (BET), whose family stood to gain millions if Bush succeeded. Johnson is not a man with a deep sense of social obligation. Not long ago, when an interviewer prodded him for his views on philanthropy, Johnson scoffed, "(B)eing a very wealthy person is not something that I wake up in the morning and say, 'Gee, I got all this money. How do I give it away?'" There is, however, an important exception to this every-man-for-himself ethos: society's duty to aid extremely wealthy African Americans. This social obligation Johnson takes very seriously.
So Johnson did what he often does when his interests are at stake: He played the race card. Johnson gathered a collection of black business leaders and demanded an end to the estate tax. Taking out newspaper ads of their own, Johnson's group attacked the tax for draining wealth from the black community. Unlike "very wealthy white Americans" who supported the tax, he declared, "We as African Americans have come to our wealth on a different path, a different road than they have." Gates and his friends, Johnson implied, were not really promoting the common good; they were trying to keep the black man down. All of a sudden, it was not so clear who held the moral high ground. Estate tax repeal had become a civil rights issue.
Almost no one--not even the White House--had thought to frame the issue this way. And for good reason: It is a bizarre inversion of the truth. "Elimination of the Estate Tax," Johnson's ad argued, using extraneous capitalizations for emphasis, "will help close the wealth gap in this nation between African American families and White families." But the estate tax is paid only by people who inherit large fortunes, and black people, as one might suspect, are far less likely than white people to do so. (Blacks make up about 12 percent of the population, but less than one-half of 1 percent of estate tax payers.) And the revenues from the tax, obviously, fund government programs, which tend to help those with low incomes, who are disproportionately black. Repealing the estate tax, therefore, would dramatically widen the wealth gap.
But Johnson gave Bush the cover he needed to once again cast himself as a champion of minority interests. "As Robert Johnson of Black Entertainment Television argues, the death tax and double taxation weighs heavily on minorities," said Bush, who added that his plan would allow people to transfer wealth "from one generation to the next, regardless of a person's race."
Fortunately for Johnson, and even more fortunately for his heirs, estate tax repeal subsequently passed into law. But Johnson's campaign to abolish the estate tax was more than just a way to save a few million bucks. It was the beginning of a political partnership between the CEO of BET and the president of the United States, one that has now turned its attention to an even grander cause: the privatization of Social Security. On May 2, Bush appointed Johnson to his commission charged with transforming the popular program. Once again, Johnson has racialized a long-standing conservative crusade. We must turn Social Security into a system with individual investment accounts, he argues, because the existing program unfairly shortchanges blacks. Social Security overhaul is Bush's most radical--and most politically perilous--aspiration. That the administration has entrusted Johnson with this task, despite his lack of expertise (and, indeed, his lack of any history of public interest in the issue), is a measure of the ideological reliability with which it now regards him. Johnson, according to one analyst, "is trying to position himself as Bush's go-to guy in the African American community." And it looks like he's succeeding.
At first blush, there is something peculiar about this burgeoning partnership. Before Bush took office, Johnson cut the standard political profile of a member of the black bourgeoisie--his strongest political connections were with the civil rights establishment, and he donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrats. And yet his alliance with the president is not as strange as it may appear. Johnson has spent his career converting the moral capital of the black struggle for equality to his own personal economic advantage. One of Bush's central innovations has been to cloak an economic agenda radically geared to the interests of the wealthy in multicultural imagery. In a sense, the business strategy of Robert Johnson and the political strategy of George W. Bush were destined for each other.
Johnson presents himself as the very opposite of a shrewd manipulator of racial politics. His preferred self-image is that of a bottom-line businessman who does his best to disregard racial barriers. A New York Times profile last year began with Johnson recounting how, early in his career, he swallowed his anger while a white colleague told a racist joke at a bar. (Profiles of Johnson often feature him recounting racial slights, always to make the point that he is not bothered by them.) The Times summed up Johnson's ethos this way: "That philosophy--keep emotions in check, don't let issues of race get in the way of the deal--has helped Mr. Johnson, 54, become one of the country's most successful black entrepreneurs."
But while Johnson's talent as a businessman is undeniable--he has, after all, earned more than $1 billion from scratch--he didn't come by his fortune through the classic build-a-better-mousetrap method of American capitalism. Rather, his genius lies in finding certain corners of the economy where he can guarantee himself a steady stream of risk-free profit without having to provide goods or services of any special value. He does so by making himself politically indispensable to his business partners. Johnson's career has less in common with Henry Ford than with, say, the Soviet gas monopoly. And to acquire such franchises, he offers not baksheesh but racial absolution.
Johnson first demonstrated this ability in 1979, when, as a cable TV lobbyist, he came up with the one true innovation in his business career: a cable TV station targeted to black viewers. At the time, cities represented cable's only remaining untapped market. And cable companies that could claim to support black culture enjoyed a political advantage in the race to wire them. All of which set the stage for Johnson's sweetheart deal. A Denver-based cable giant called TCI put up half a million dollars to acquire a minority share of Johnson's new network, which he called Black Entertainment Television. Johnson got the majority stake--after putting up just $15,000 of his own money. The benefit to TCI was clear: It could tell the mayors and city councils in charge of doling out contracts that it carried and financed a black-owned, black-themed station. "Under traditional investment standards, the return on investment has not been what one would look for," a TCI official told The Washington Post ten years later. But that, he added, doesn't account for "how much goodwill we get from making a major attempt to provide programming of interest to the minority community." Johnson, meanwhile, reaped a windfall.
Of course, now that Johnson had a cable station, he had to put content on the air. But this turned out to be pretty simple, too. Since BET's main purpose was to score political points for Johnson's financial patron, the actual programming hardly mattered. As Johnson liked to tell his staff, "We don't have to reinvent the wheel. We just have to paint it black." During its first couple of years, BET broadcast only two hours per week--an old movie on Friday nights. It took four years to expand to 24-hour broadcasting, and its main criterion still seems to be finding ways to fill airtime at no cost. The network devotes hour after hour to infomercials--"Black Entertainment Television," goes one joke, "is neither black nor entertainment." And it relies heavily on music videos, which studios provide to the network for free in order to promote their albums and which, as of two years ago, accounted for more than half of BET's content.
Unfortunately, the videos tend to feature the least edifying elements of African American culture--gangsta rappers and booty-shaking dancers. That's one reason Johnson and BET have for years come under withering criticism within the African American community. One BET executive confessed at a music conference in June 1996 that she doesn't permit her daughter to watch the station. Aaron McGruder, who authors an edgy cartoon about black life, has made a living disparaging Johnson. In one strip, a character asserts that he "used to be a firm believer" that "powerful black business people would then act in the best interests of black America." But then "BET shot a few holes in that theory."
Johnson has also endured criticism for serving as a front man for TCI--a role he reprised in 1984 when he acquired the rights to provide cable television to Washington, D.C. Like many other local governments, Washington's city council put great emphasis on finding a locally owned, minority contractor. Even though the council's cable committee recommended another firm, Johnson's group won the bid, in large part--as the Post suggested at the time--because its shareholders included a number of cronies and financial donors of then-Mayor Marion Barry.
Johnson promised that his company "would not be back seeking relief from promises we could not keep." But, within a few months, Johnson acknowledged (as did cable contractors in other cities) that he could not keep his commitment without millions of dollars in concessions from the city. Johnson also obtained tens of millions in additional financing from TCI, giving it financial control of the operation. With Johnson and his local, minority partners reduced to figureheads, a Post columnist observed, "Would the D.C. City Council have given the cable franchise in the first place to a white company from Denver with local black managers? I doubt it."
Johnson has a blunt reply to such detractors. "There are thousands of white businessmen who never get asked, 'Are you a hero?' and never are asked what they have given back to the white community," he told c-span in 1992, "What are my responsibilities to black people at large? If I help my family get over and deal with the problems they might confront, then I have achieved that one goal that is my responsibility to society at large."
As Johnson tells it, he asks only to be treated like any other entrepreneur, black or white. But he applies his disregard for race selectively. When he's asked to help the black community, he's just a businessman. On the other hand, when Johnson's own interests are at stake, he portrays himself as a stand-in for black America. Race is his catchall justification for all sorts of socially and economically noxious behavior. He has turned the racial mau-mau into a business plan.
For example, Johnson has a long record of quashing efforts by his underpaid employees to unionize. On one occasion he laid off or reduced the hours of BET workers who joined an electricians' union, an action that a federal judge subsequently ruled illegal. He justifies such behavior by accusing the unions of racial bias for trying to organize a black-owned network. "I don't see them taking part in the $(naacp's threatened network$) boycott. I don't see them writing open letters to the networks about their lack of black representation. Why do they pick on BET? Why not ABC or NBC or Fox?"
In 1994 Johnson brought his tactics to th e world of professional sports when he decided he wanted to purchase Washington's NBA franchise, the Bullets. When the team's owner, Abe Pollin, turned down his entreaties, Johnson tried another tack. "I told him, 'Abe, you're from the suburbs, I'm from the city,'" he recounted to the Post, "'You're white, I'm black. The city is mostly black, and the players are too.'" When Pollin resisted this line of reasoning, Johnson declared that he wanted to bring a second NBA franchise to the area. The league, he acknowledged, traditionally discourages the establishment of a new franchise in such close proximity to an existing one. But, he mused, it might not want to oppose a prospective black owner. That plan failed, too, but only after Johnson waged a protracted fight against Pollin's effort to build a new arena in downtown Washington--just the sort of economic development most boosters of the majority-black city encourage.
But the quintessential Robert Johnson business deal was unveiled last spring, when United Airlines announced its intention to purchase its main rival, US Airways. The merger was politically perilous, since the Clinton Justice Department did not seem favorably disposed toward another merger in such a heavily consolidated industry. The airlines tried to solve this problem by cutting Johnson in on the deal. Under the proposed arrangement, Johnson would create a new airline, DC Air. DC Air would lease its planes and runway spots from United, with which--in theory--it would also compete.
It was yet another no-lose proposition for Johnson. He would get a pre-fab airline--complete with planes, parts, and the people to make it work--for well below market value. (Continental Airlines subsequently offered to pay 50 percent more than Johnson for the same assets.) In return, Johnson provided United essentially the same thing Virgil "the Turk" Sollozzo wanted from Don Corleone: police and political protection. Johnson enjoyed a close relationship with President Clinton, having donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democratic campaigns. Airline analysts speculated--but, of course, could not prove--that United believed Johnson's influence could help make antitrust concerns disappear.
Johnson quickly went about using race to demonize the merger's opponents. In a hearing on June 15 of last year, James Oberstar, the top-ranking Democrat on the House Transportation Committee, pointed out that DC Air would be dependent on its supposed rival, United. "That's not a real competitive environment," Oberstar noted. At that point he slipped in an unfortunate phrase: "That's a plantation." Oberstar later explained that he was trying to draw an analogy to the serf-like status of the District of Columbia, which is sometimes called "the last plantation." But US Airways Chairman Stephen Wolf saw the remark on c-span, and--no doubt sensing an opportunity--phoned Johnson, who pounced. Calling Oberstar's remark "blatant racism," he demanded that the congressman apologize and recuse himself from the issue. Oberstar dutifully apologized, but Johnson played the race card again the following January, accusing New York Senator Charles E. Schumer, a merger critic, of favoring DC Air's rivals "because they are white businesspersons."
Despite Johnson's best efforts, the Justice Department delayed the merger. In fact, its review dragged on past the end of the year (before being officially nixed at the end of July). But, even before the deal fell through, something happened that completely overturned its political calculus: Bush took office. All at once, Johnson's connections with Clinton were useless. "I think with $(Johnson's$) issue on the airlines," speculates Harry Alford, a fellow black anti-estate-tax activist, "he saw he had to get both sides of the aisle."
As alford implies, it is highly unlikely that Johnson would have undergone such a rapid political metamorphosis had his business dealings not demanded it. Yet his newfound conservatism is not entirely philosophically incoherent. The premise of Johnson's special pleading has always been that his business interests are the only legitimate civil rights issue. His right to amass more wealth trumps his employees' interest in higher wages, the community's interest in non-debasing black entertainment, and travelers' interest in affordable airfares. The fact that many of the people on the other side of the equation are black does not enter into Johnson's accounting. And, in recent months, he seems to have discovered that the moral logic that propelled his spectacular business career has an application in the world of public policy as well.
Johnson's interest in the estate tax is, of course, a direct consequence of his financial interests. His membership on the President's Commission to Strengthen Social Security, on the other hand, came about by accident. In mid-March, Johnson delivered a speech at Brown University about his life. By happenstance, Sam Beard was in the audience. Beard is a full-time evangelist for Social Security privatization. He is particularly intent on sharing the gospel with nonconservatives--he treated me to a soliloquy in the course of telling this story--and can explain the idea so it sounds not like the product of right-wing think tanks but like the natural outgrowth of the Great Society. Beard saw in Johnson an ideal convert. "His whole presentation is about wealth," recounts Beard, meaning this as a compliment. Beard struck up a conversation with Johnson and, finding him receptive, asked whether he would like to serve on a presidential commission on the topic if invited to. Johnson said yes.
Chuck Blahous, the White House staffer in charge of Social Security reform, does not recall the precise genesis of Johnson's involvement. "We were looking for diversity of background," he explains. In fact, there is nothing in the public record to suggest that Johnson had any previous interest in the topic. And that may have worked in his favor. Johnson's obvious role on the commission is to argue that Social Security privatization will help blacks, who, he claims, are treated unfairly by the current system. Pro-privatization think tanks, such as the Heritage Foundation and the Cato Institute, have argued that for years, pumping out position papers and targeting the black media. But the idea never received much mainstream attention until Bush anointed Johnson to take it up. Johnson well understands his role--he brings up the racial angle at every turn, generally leaving to others the broader case for personal accounts. He doesn't have to reinvent the case for privatization. He just has to paint it black.
Johnson's argument is rooted in a simple misunderstanding. "African Americans who contribute to the Social Security system and payroll taxes," he says, "also have one of the highest mortality rates, so in the end, they may not receive the full benefits of what they put in Social Security." And it's true that blacks, on average, die younger than whites. Social Security pays its retirement benefits only as long as a worker is alive. Therefore, privatizers conclude, blacks would particularly benefit from individual retirement accounts. That way, those who die early won't get less benefits--extra money in their account will be passed on to their heirs.
There are two reasons this conclusion is false. First, Social Security does more than pay benefits to retirees. It also gives benefits to the families of workers who die or are disabled at a young age. Since black workers are more likely to suffer workplace injuries, they benefit disproportionately from this part of the program. And the more Social Security tax dollars are drained away into private accounts--as Bush proposes to do--the less that is available for survivors' benefits.
Second, Social Security's retirement benefits are progressive: They offer a higher rate of return to lower-paid workers. Since black workers, on average, earn less than the population at large, they benefit from this redistribution. This more than makes up for any loss they suffer from dying younger. On the whole, then, Social Security redistributes money from whites to blacks. Most plans for private accounts do not. As with the estate tax, Johnson has his racial analysis backward.
But Johnson's argument is more than untrue; it is deeply revealing. Before Social Security, retirees couldn't know how much of a pension to allot themselves out of their savings, if they had any, because they didn't know how long they would live. If they spent too much, they might outlive their savings. Social Security fixed that problem by giving retired workers a guaranteed income for as long as they lived. Johnson, and Bush's commission, now argue that it would make more sense to give each retiree an individual account. It's true that this one feature, by itself, would tend to benefit those who die younger. But, of course, nobody can be certain that he or she will die young. Suppose we were to discover that, say, Italian-Americans are somewhat less likely than other Americans to lose their homes from natural disasters. One could then make the case that federal disaster relief constitutes a net transfer of wealth out of their community, and that they should oppose it. The important point here is not even that blacks wouldn't benefit from Social Security privatization. It's that Johnson implicitly rejects the very idea that politics is about the common good.
Conservatives used to vehemently--sometimes even eloquently--oppose this kind of thinking. Color-blindness, they once insisted, was the only moral basis for decent public policy. But the Bush administration has changed that. It boasts incessantly about its racial, ethnic, and gender diversity and has hatched a slew of initiatives targeted at specific constituencies. For women, the White House is pushing the "Winning Women" campaign. For Catholics, Bush appropriates the language of the Church. For Mexican-Americans, Bush last month floated an amnesty program that wouldn't apply to all immigrants--just this one, politically important immigrant group. Bush, of course, did not invent identity politics; his contribution has been to tether it to policies geared toward the interests of accumulated wealth.
In short, Bushism and Johnsonism are made for each other; their nascent alliance represents a historic synthesis of the racial separatism of the left and the libertarianism of the right. Johnson, even more than Bush, seemed to recognize this commonality from the beginning. "If he's smart," the businessman said of the president last April, "he'd take the opportunity to reach out to these African American business leaders and say, 'We agree on at least one thing. What else can we talk about?'" The answer, alas, is plenty.
Jonathan Chait is a senior editor at The New Republic.
This makes me want to fucklng cry.
According to the National Vital Statistics Reports . . . The difference in life expectancy is even more striking among African American men, who have a life expectancy of only 66.1 years, compared to the national average of 73.6 years for all men.
I think it would be more fair that families be able to keep some of that money rather than have it go back into the pot. Sometimes it only takes a few thousand dollars to start a small business, buy a house, a taxi medalion, etc. Many of the other groups that had to lift themselves up despite discrimination, like the Irish and the Italians, did so at a time when there was no (or little) federal income tax, so they kept their money from the beginning.
Yeah, but it didn't stick back then, and was basically revealed to be ridiculous, O'Reilly fodder. And still here we are...
Government Law - Social Security Law - Survivors
How about a brief overview of survivors benefits?
Social Security is more than monthly retirement benefits. Monthly benefits, depending upon the particular circumstances, can be paid to:
If you have enough credits at the time of your death, family members may be eligible for benefits. Eligible family members include:
(1) widows and widowers age 62 or older
(2) disabled widow/widower age 50 or older
(3) widow/widower caring for a child under age 16 or a disabled child who receives social security benefits
(5) unmarried children under age 18 - or under age 19 while a full-time student in elementary or secondary school - or age 18 or older who is severely disabled
(6) parents who were dependent upon you for at least half of their support.
A one-time $255 lump sum benefit may also be payable.[/b]
Divorced widows/widowers may also be eligible for benefits - after your death - based upon your social security account.
because he's, you know, black...
Shit....with THAT kind of money I can pay someone to vote for me!
novack is full of shit and he got called out on this tmz type story the day his bogus article ran. did you forget novack's role in the Libby/Plame mess before you wrote that he's "made out to be a bad guy" but just "an overzealous reporter". its one thing not to reveal your sources, but how about not revealing your story!??!!
he succeeded in creating a buzz about what shocking dirt the clinton campaign supposedly had on obama, but then he just stfu when everyone challenged his journalistic ethics and integrity....AGAIN....by refusing to even say what the dirt was/is. go take that shit back to fox news.
this whole hillary/obama race issue is beyond stupid and i guess i was just bored last night for even getting into it. the Clintons policies and the voting records of Blacks in favor of the Clintons is all that needs to be said.
Johnson got a little carried away, but what was his main point? that the Obama camp must thing Black folks across the country are stupid if he is going to even engage in this ridiculous debate over whether the clintons are racist. Blacks have overwhelmingly supported the clintons. so are they a bunch of idiots or did the Clintons just succeed in fooling them all these years?
And regardless of whether you think Johnson makes sense or is talking out of his ass, he's NOT a paid Clinton spokesman. should we get into all the things that have been said by people who are campaigning for Obama? did you catch jesse jackson jr. giving a speech about hillary's crocodile tears last week? who cares.