What the fuck is lupe fiasco even talking about?

BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
edited December 2007 in Strut Central
Im over on some other forum reading whats supposed to be a quotables thread, and i just dont get it. "FailureIt's mean, soldierNow let me put the streets down like steamrollersWith the CATS that push40 oz. through the hood like King CobrasSee me sling soda'Cause the extra four in the split is mixedIt's really 36Used to buy toasters and clipsYou can tighten your circle or boa constrictWhile you was lighting your purple, I was over the scriptsSee, I couldn't walk the walk, couldn't really talk the talkHad to get my talk to properly explain my walk'Cause this lack in talk had my walk looking offNow I'm over the limpWatch how they mugs drop when they see my Verbal's able(That's the Usual)When I was po' I was lowNow me and my Chaps cop Purple LabelIt's Ralph Lauren on the rap laureateNiggas brownnose, they are like "after him" (alf to him)Runners at Interscope are not as Stoute as himPlease don't InterscopeIt's gonna be a whole lot of Iovine(iv'ing) and respiratingIf I lean out this window with IreneNiggas as tall as Yao MingWith L-U-P-EmperorIs the foundation's high beams and the antennasIt's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like Could damn near see DetroitNiggas is scared of heightsThis is saran wrap and aluminum foilSome potpourri, a little machine oilI stack my paper and throw off my 6This is top floor, better look out beforePennies from heaven is the same as the semi from the secondAnd I reign supremeTurn your umbrellas upside downDid you even catch the change in theme?Dude, mabye its me, but it just seems like a lot of non sequiters and shit and most of his rhymes dont really make any sense. Not to mention he delivers it all basicly monotone. Anybody wanna break down the appeal for me?
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  • It's not worth trying to understand, really.

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts



  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts




    ive never read that book. I guess im not a real head. Are you saying if i read it ill like lupe?

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts




    ive never read that book. I guess im not a real head. Are you saying if i read it ill like lupe?

    Burroughs wrote a book, cut it up by paragraph/line, threw it up in the air and put it back together however the hell it fell out.

    That's what reading those above lyrics reminded me of.

  • i understand about half of it.

  • Im over on some other forum reading whats supposed to be a quotables thread, and i just dont get it.


    "Failure

    It's mean, soldier
    Now let me put the streets down like steamrollers
    With the CATS that push
    40 oz. through the hood like King Cobras
    See me sling soda
    'Cause the extra four in the split is mixed
    It's really 36
    Used to buy toasters and clips
    You can tighten your circle or boa constrict
    While you was lighting your purple, I was over the scripts
    See, I couldn't walk the walk, couldn't really talk the talk
    Had to get my talk to properly explain my walk
    'Cause this lack in talk had my walk looking off
    Now I'm over the limp
    Watch how they mugs drop when they see my Verbal's able
    (That's the Usual)
    When I was po' I was low
    Now me and my Chaps cop Purple Label
    It's Ralph Lauren on the rap laureate
    Niggas brownnose, they are like "after him" (alf to him)
    Runners at Interscope are not as Stoute as him
    Please don't Interscope
    It's gonna be a whole lot of Iovine(iv'ing) and respirating
    If I lean out this window with Irene
    Niggas as tall as Yao Ming
    With L-U-P-Emperor
    Is the foundation's high beams and the antennas
    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Could damn near see Detroit


    Niggas is scared of heights
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6
    This is top floor, better look out before
    Pennies from heaven is the same as the semi from the second
    And I reign supreme
    Turn your umbrellas upside down
    Did you even catch the change in theme?



    Dude, mabye its me, but it just seems like a lot of non sequiters and shit and most of his rhymes dont really make any sense. Not to mention he delivers it all basicly monotone.

    Anybody wanna break down the appeal for me?


    It's all metaphors for different things. The disconnected can't relate so it's hard for them to discipher. Rap/hip hop has always been this way. That's the one thing that has made the music unique. The line where he says "Now let me put the streets down like steamrollers
    With the CATS that push
    40 oz. through the hood like King Cobras
    See me sling soda"

    He just said "Let me break down how alot of my peeps are on the block around my hood, selling or hustlein' like the dudes that push narcotics. See me sling soda -in other words "Cocaine". 40 z through the hood like king cobras. Two things come to mind with this one. " Sell dope like it was marketed to people such as the old beer KING COBRA or similar to how a snake waits and lurks then strikes at that rightful moment. But all explained to relate to how dope is slung or just straight hustlin'.

    I't stupid but thats how rap has been!


  • Im over on some other forum reading whats supposed to be a quotables thread, and i just dont get it.


    "Failure

    It's mean, soldier
    Now let me put the streets down like steamrollers
    With the CATS that push
    40 oz. through the hood like King Cobras
    See me sling soda
    'Cause the extra four in the split is mixed
    It's really 36
    Used to buy toasters and clips
    You can tighten your circle or boa constrict
    While you was lighting your purple, I was over the scripts
    See, I couldn't walk the walk, couldn't really talk the talk
    Had to get my talk to properly explain my walk
    'Cause this lack in talk had my walk looking off
    Now I'm over the limp
    Watch how they mugs drop when they see my Verbal's able
    (That's the Usual)
    When I was po' I was low
    Now me and my Chaps cop Purple Label
    It's Ralph Lauren on the rap laureate
    Niggas brownnose, they are like "after him" (alf to him)
    Runners at Interscope are not as Stoute as him
    Please don't Interscope
    It's gonna be a whole lot of Iovine(iv'ing) and respirating
    If I lean out this window with Irene
    Niggas as tall as Yao Ming
    With L-U-P-Emperor
    Is the foundation's high beams and the antennas
    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Could damn near see Detroit


    Niggas is scared of heights
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6
    This is top floor, better look out before
    Pennies from heaven is the same as the semi from the second
    And I reign supreme
    Turn your umbrellas upside down
    Did you even catch the change in theme?



    Dude, mabye its me, but it just seems like a lot of non sequiters and shit and most of his rhymes dont really make any sense. Not to mention he delivers it all basicly monotone.

    Anybody wanna break down the appeal for me?


    It's all metaphors for different things. The disconnected can't relate so it's hard for them to discipher. Rap/hip hop has always been this way. That's the one thing that has made the music unique. The line where he says "Now let me put the streets down like steamrollers
    With the CATS that push
    40 oz. through the hood like King Cobras
    See me sling soda"

    He just said "Let me break down how alot of my peeps are on the block around my hood, selling or hustlein' like the dudes that push narcotics. See me sling soda -in other words "Cocaine". 40 z through the hood like king cobras. Two things come to mind with this one. " Sell dope like it was marketed to people such as the old beer KING COBRA or similar to how a snake waits and lurks then strikes at that rightful moment. But all explained to relate to how dope is slung or just straight hustlin'.

    I't stupid but thats how rap has been!

    yeah man, you kind of need the capacity for abstract thought and to understand some of his references. my personal favorite line:

    Now I'm over the limp
    Watch how they mugs drop when they see my Verbal's able
    (That's the Usual)

    i'm not gonna break it down but a dope usual suspects reference....

    This is top floor, better look out before
    Pennies from heaven is the same as the semi from the second - also dope

  • dude is a cornball but it's nice to see some of you riding for his 'plex 'phors.

  • dude is a cornball but it's nice to see some of you riding for his 'plex 'phors.

    at least his plex phors take some amount of thought to decipher. far more artistic and interesting than:

    Who the fuck you think you fuckin' with, I'm the fuckin' boss
    Seven forty-five, white on white that's fuckin' Ross
    I cut 'em wide, I cut 'em long, I cut 'em fat (What)
    I keep 'em comin' back (What), we keep 'em comin' back
    I'm in the distribution, I'm like Atlantic
    I got them motherfuckers flyin' 'cross the Atlantic
    I know Pablo, Noriega, the real Noriega
    He owe me a hundred favors
    I ain't petty nigga, we buy the whole thang
    See most of my niggas really still deal cocaine
    My roof back, my money rides
    I'm on the pedal, show you what I'm runnin' like
    When they snatch black I cry for a hundred nights
    He got a hundred bodies, servin' a hundred lives

    [Hook]
    Everyday I'm hustlin'
    (wash, rinse, repeat)

    or

    (Let's get it) Tonight I can't sleep--we livin' in Hell (Yeah)
    First they, give us the work then they throw us in jail (Ayy)
    Road Trip ya--I'm trafficing in the white
    Please Lord don't let me go to jail tonight (Yeah)
    Who Me?? I'm a Soul Survivor
    Ask about 'em in the street, the boy Jeez a rida (Jeez a rida)
    A hundred grand on my wrist, yeah life sucks
    Fuck the club, dawg, I rather count a million bucks (Ayy)

    [Chorus (Akon):]
    If you lookin' for me I'll be on the block
    With my thang cocked possibly sittin' on a drop (Now)
    'Cuz I'm a rida (Yeah)
    I'm just a Soul Survivor (Yeah)

    garbage. and lupe's 1 verse is longer than these two combined.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Im over on some other forum reading whats supposed to be a quotables thread, and i just dont get it.


    "Failure

    It's mean, soldier
    Now let me put the streets down like steamrollers
    With the CATS that push
    40 oz. through the hood like King Cobras
    See me sling soda
    'Cause the extra four in the split is mixed
    It's really 36
    Used to buy toasters and clips
    You can tighten your circle or boa constrict
    While you was lighting your purple, I was over the scripts
    See, I couldn't walk the walk, couldn't really talk the talk
    Had to get my talk to properly explain my walk
    'Cause this lack in talk had my walk looking off
    Now I'm over the limp
    Watch how they mugs drop when they see my Verbal's able
    (That's the Usual)
    When I was po' I was low
    Now me and my Chaps cop Purple Label
    It's Ralph Lauren on the rap laureate
    Niggas brownnose, they are like "after him" (alf to him)
    Runners at Interscope are not as Stoute as him
    Please don't Interscope
    It's gonna be a whole lot of Iovine(iv'ing) and respirating
    If I lean out this window with Irene
    Niggas as tall as Yao Ming
    With L-U-P-Emperor
    Is the foundation's high beams and the antennas
    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Could damn near see Detroit


    Niggas is scared of heights
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6
    This is top floor, better look out before
    Pennies from heaven is the same as the semi from the second
    And I reign supreme
    Turn your umbrellas upside down
    Did you even catch the change in theme?



    Dude, mabye its me, but it just seems like a lot of non sequiters and shit and most of his rhymes dont really make any sense. Not to mention he delivers it all basicly monotone.

    Anybody wanna break down the appeal for me?


    It's all metaphors for different things. The disconnected can't relate so it's hard for them to discipher. Rap/hip hop has always been this way. That's the one thing that has made the music unique. The line where he says "Now let me put the streets down like steamrollers
    With the CATS that push
    40 oz. through the hood like King Cobras
    See me sling soda"

    He just said "Let me break down how alot of my peeps are on the block around my hood, selling or hustlein' like the dudes that push narcotics. See me sling soda -in other words "Cocaine". 40 z through the hood like king cobras. Two things come to mind with this one. " Sell dope like it was marketed to people such as the old beer KING COBRA or similar to how a snake waits and lurks then strikes at that rightful moment. But all explained to relate to how dope is slung or just straight hustlin'.

    I't stupid but thats how rap has been!

    yeah man, you kind of need the capacity for abstract thought and to understand some of his references. my personal favorite line:

    Now I'm over the limp
    Watch how they mugs drop when they see my Verbal's able
    (That's the Usual)

    i'm not gonna break it down but a dope usual suspects reference....

    This is top floor, better look out before
    Pennies from heaven is the same as the semi from the second - also dope


    listen, i guess i get the usual suspects one. but its still all messed up. I mean its always obvious what hes referencing, but he never really pulls it off in my opinion. Plus 9 times out of 10 they dont rhyme.


    and the other one, things dropped from higher altitudes are supposed to be heavier? Ok, thats not actually true, but i guess thats what he was saying.

    ....oh ok, mugs drop.,...i get it. But it still doesnt sound cool. and it dont rhyme!

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    dude is a cornball but it's nice to see some of you riding for his 'plex 'phors.

    at least his plex phors take some amount of thought to decipher. far more artistic and interesting than:

    Who the fuck you think you fuckin' with, I'm the fuckin' boss
    Seven forty-five, white on white that's fuckin' Ross
    I cut 'em wide, I cut 'em long, I cut 'em fat (What)
    I keep 'em comin' back (What), we keep 'em comin' back
    I'm in the distribution, I'm like Atlantic
    I got them motherfuckers flyin' 'cross the Atlantic
    I know Pablo, Noriega, the real Noriega
    He owe me a hundred favors
    I ain't petty nigga, we buy the whole thang
    See most of my niggas really still deal cocaine
    My roof back, my money rides
    I'm on the pedal, show you what I'm runnin' like
    When they snatch black I cry for a hundred nights
    He got a hundred bodies, servin' a hundred lives

    [Hook]
    Everyday I'm hustlin'
    (wash, rinse, repeat)

    or

    (Let's get it) Tonight I can't sleep--we livin' in Hell (Yeah)
    First they, give us the work then they throw us in jail (Ayy)
    Road Trip ya--I'm trafficing in the white
    Please Lord don't let me go to jail tonight (Yeah)
    Who Me?? I'm a Soul Survivor
    Ask about 'em in the street, the boy Jeez a rida (Jeez a rida)
    A hundred grand on my wrist, yeah life sucks
    Fuck the club, dawg, I rather count a million bucks (Ayy)

    [Chorus (Akon):]
    If you lookin' for me I'll be on the block
    With my thang cocked possibly sittin' on a drop (Now)
    'Cuz I'm a rida (Yeah)
    I'm just a Soul Survivor (Yeah)

    garbage. and lupe's 1 verse is longer than these two combined.


    nah not really, those verses have a rhythm, a cadence to them, and they rhyme. They are in fact lyrics, not just a bunch of random words and associations.


  • nah not really, those verses have a rhythm, a cadence to them, and they rhyme.

    true, i guess i can't say that...

    I'm in the distribution, I'm like Atlantic
    I got them motherfuckers flyin' 'cross the Atlantic

    doesnt't rhyme...

    but, i hear you though b. i'm not really riding for lupe so much as for lyrics that have some content and thought to them. lupe may not be saying anything but it was interesting enough for you to post it here. i haven't heard the lupe cut to comment on rythm and cadence but its easy to have cadence when your beat is 78 bpms and you're on some slow flow. but again, personal preference. these other lyrics are not challenging nor thought provoking and lack artistic integrity, thats all.

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts
    These lyrics are caca.

  • "Hustlin'" > Lupe

  • Lupe is trying too hard.

  • "Hustlin'" > Lupe

  • Lupe > Rick Ross

    Rick Ross could be replaced by 100,000 other dudes. He is where he is because he's a bussiness man giving people what they want. Lupe may be nerdy as fuck, but at least he's original and getting by making the music he wants to make. That said, they both suck.

    Shooterali, could you please explain what this section means:

    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Could damn near see Detroit
    Niggas is scared of heights
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6

  • RockadelicRockadelic Out Digging 13,993 Posts

    Shooterali, could you please explain what this section means:

    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Dude is signing contracts and getting paid serious cash[/b]
    Could damn near see Detroit
    Dude's approaching Motown status[/b]
    Niggas is scared of heights
    Which intimidates his competition[/b]
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Now work is over, it's a wrap[/b]
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    Time for some smoke and some drank[/b]
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6
    Count the profits and put away the gat for the night[/b]

    It will be much more entertaining if the clueless old crusty white dude translates.

    If I'm even close, dude is corn.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Lupe > Rick Ross

    Rick Ross could be replaced by 100,000 other dudes. He is where he is because he's a bussiness man giving people what they want. Lupe may be nerdy as fuck, but at least he's original and getting by making the music he wants to make. That said, they both suck.

    Shooterali, could you please explain what this section means:

    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Could damn near see Detroit
    Niggas is scared of heights
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6


    i think the end part is something about using potpourri and machine oil to mask the smell of the drugs you're rapping in saran wrap and aluminum foil.

    Hey wait a minute, so "original lyrics with substance" = selling drugs and getting money. Wow.

    Personally i prefer the rick ross line about atlantic better. Maybe you didnt fully grasp that one. Let me break it down. Atlantic is a record label, that does alot of buisiness giving artists distribution deals, Atlantic is also an ocean over which drugs must be flown in planes so that rick ross may distribute them. Thus the word takes on a double meaning.


    now tell me how rhyming foil with oil is soooo much more advanced than that.

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Ill hand it to the little dude though, he is a rapper on a major label and hes not dropped yet. that takes some hustlin right now.


    I predict his career will last just about as long as the "streetwear movement" though.

  • spelunkspelunk 3,400 Posts
    Lupe is a tool. Always has been, always will be.

  • Lupe > Rick Ross

    Rick Ross could be replaced by 100,000 other dudes. He is where he is because he's a bussiness man giving people what they want. Lupe may be nerdy as fuck, but at least he's original and getting by making the music he wants to make. That said, they both suck.

    Shooterali, could you please explain what this section means:

    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Could damn near see Detroit
    Niggas is scared of heights
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6


    i think the end part is something about using potpourri and machine oil to mask the smell of the drugs you're rapping in saran wrap and aluminum foil.

    Hey wait a minute, so "original lyrics with substance" = selling drugs and getting money. Wow.

    Personally i prefer the rick ross line about atlantic better. Maybe you didnt fully grasp that one. Let me break it down. Atlantic is a record label, that does alot of buisiness giving artists distribution deals, Atlantic is also an ocean over which drugs must be flown in planes so that rick ross may distribute them. Thus the word takes on a double meaning.


    now tell me how rhyming foil with oil is soooo much more advanced than that.

    Could you dissect this line for me?

    We never steal cars, but we deal hard
    Whip it real hard whip it whip it real hard
    I caught a charge, I caught a charge
    Whip it real hard, whip it whip it real hard

    Sorry, that part's got me

  • HAZHAZ 3,376 Posts


    I know Pablo, Neruda, the real Neruda
    He owe me a poem and like five dollars


  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    Lupe > Rick Ross

    Rick Ross could be replaced by 100,000 other dudes. He is where he is because he's a bussiness man giving people what they want. Lupe may be nerdy as fuck, but at least he's original and getting by making the music he wants to make. That said, they both suck.

    Shooterali, could you please explain what this section means:

    It's so serious every time I write my John Hancock like
    Could damn near see Detroit
    Niggas is scared of heights
    This is saran wrap and aluminum foil
    Some potpourri, a little machine oil
    I stack my paper and throw off my 6


    i think the end part is something about using potpourri and machine oil to mask the smell of the drugs you're rapping in saran wrap and aluminum foil.

    Hey wait a minute, so "original lyrics with substance" = selling drugs and getting money. Wow.

    Personally i prefer the rick ross line about atlantic better. Maybe you didnt fully grasp that one. Let me break it down. Atlantic is a record label, that does alot of buisiness giving artists distribution deals, Atlantic is also an ocean over which drugs must be flown in planes so that rick ross may distribute them. Thus the word takes on a double meaning.


    now tell me how rhyming foil with oil is soooo much more advanced than that.

    Could you dissect this line for me?

    We never steal cars, but we deal hard
    Whip it real hard whip it whip it real hard
    I caught a charge, I caught a charge
    Whip it real hard, whip it whip it real hard

    Sorry, that part's got me


    OK, ill try....lol


    They own all of their flashy cars, they are not stolen as many police officers might suspect. They do however sell a large quantity of illegal narcotics which allows them to purchase said cars.
    Consequently, the quality of cars that rick ross drives is exceptional. He also reccomends that you purchase a high priced luxury or sports automobile so that you might also drive around and be noticed for having such a nice car. In fact, he emphatically suggests that you do so.

    Selling so much cocaine is a very risky enterprise. Openly flaunting material possesions aquired using money from the narcotics trade could result in an especially undesirable legal conviction. Not to worry however because Rick Ross will evade the authorities easily due to the increased speed of his very expensive cars. If you should find yourself in a similar situation, Rick Ross reccomends that you also use your very fast cars to evade capture. In fact, he emphatically suggests that you do so.

  • deejdeej 5,125 Posts
    i think rick ross kind of sucks and is emblematic of the problems with 'coke rap' as a rapper, where talking about coke > being able to rap .... but yeah hustlin >>>>>> all lupe songs no joke. at least rick ross has a personality, no matter how one-dimensional/corny

  • BsidesBsides 4,244 Posts
    i think rick ross kind of sucks and is emblematic of the problems with 'coke rap' as a rapper, where talking about coke > being able to rap .... but yeah hustlin >>>>>> all lupe songs no joke. at least rick ross has a personality, no matter how one-dimensional/corny


    I dont even know how we got on rick ross exactly, is it cause i have him on a pokemon card in my avi? I dont think hes the greatest rapper either lol.

    I also dont hear people talk about him like hes jesus to rap like motherfuckers are apt to go on about lupe.

  • izm707izm707 1,107 Posts
    Don't get mad u...


    ...but WHY is that people are not feeling Lupe and prefer Ross when they know in real life they're closer to Lupe than Ross. I even predict that Ross is not eager to meet nerds, where as Lupe would kick it ith you any time. I'm even sure that some of you ould get slapped and humiliated by Ross when Lupe would tap your back whie drinking some soda with you (no homo), being all friendly and shit (unless you're Republican). I mean, I don't like him either. I'm not into heavy coke distribution, i look like a nerd, but i still prefer "hustlin'" over any Lupe track. Is that bad doctor?

  • drewnicedrewnice 5,465 Posts
    ...but WHY is that people are not feeling Lupe and prefer Ross when they know in real life they're closer to Lupe than Ross. I even predict that Ross is not eager to meet nerds, where as Lupe would kick it ith you any time. I'm even sure that some of you ould get slapped and humiliated by Ross when Lupe would tap your back whie drinking some soda with you (no homo), being all friendly and shit (unless you're Republican).

    Damn...where is that NateBizzo/Rick Ross pic when you need it??

  • SoulOnIceSoulOnIce 13,027 Posts
    Don't get mad u...


    ...but WHY is that people are not feeling Lupe and prefer Ross when they know in real life they're closer to Lupe than Ross. I even predict that Ross is not eager to meet nerds, where as Lupe would kick it ith you any time. I'm even sure that some of you ould get slapped and humiliated by Ross when Lupe would tap your back whie drinking some soda with you (no homo), being all friendly and shit (unless you're Republican). I mean, I don't like him either. I'm not into heavy coke distribution, i look like a nerd, but i still prefer "hustlin'" over any Lupe track. Is that bad doctor?

    This guy is right!

    NERDS NEED TO STAY IN THEIR PLACE
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